Trade Deadline Madness

What a 24 hours. The Cavs move Alec Burks, Harrison Barnes goes to Sacramento, Stanley Johnson and Thon Maker trade places, Tyler Johnson Goes to Phoenix, Herculoid Wayne Ellington will probably get bought out, LeBron James shows a complete and total lack of self-awareness, and KD makes that seem completely irrelevant by giving one of the more bizarre media availability sessions in recent memory… whew! And that wasn’t even on deadline day!

It’s been a wild few days to be sure. I’ve got a few random thoughts percolating in the attic of my mind that I need to clean out, so I’ll be tackling stuff in a stream of consciousness manner. First off, the Alec Burks deal. As we predicted when the Kyle Korver trade happened, the Cavs were able to turn Alec Burks’ expiring into a first rounder. They also picked up Brandon Knight who hasn’t played meaningful basketball in two years after an injury following the 15-16 season when his rookie extension kicked in and he fell off a cliff. The Cavs also grabbed Marquese Chriss who’s never played meaningful basketball and is posting a -2.8 oRPM despite playing in wide open offenses in Phoenix and Houston. Still, he’s only 21 and worth trying to develop for another year. Their presence necessitated the departure of Nik Stauskus and Wade Baldwin, ruining EG’s preperation of Sauce Castillo pics for live threads. The Cavs needed to move those guys to get just under the luxury tax curtain.

The problem for the Cavs now, is their glut of big men: Thompson, Love, Nance, Zizic, Henson, Chriss, and Frye. That’s a lot of money and minutes for a team short on wings and guards. Still, I like the returns. The trade is puzzling for the Kings and Rockets. Shumpert was popular in the arena and city for Sacramento, and Burks offers a very similar skill set (though is admittedly a better distributor). While Houston could have used another ball handling guard for the inevitable Chris Paul playoff injury. But whatever. The Cavs got a lottery protected first round pick. I’ll miss you, AB. You hit game winners in 18% of the Cavs wins this year. Hope to see you again in a Cavs uni next fall.

I’d say, “nice job, Koby,” except I’m a little annoyed at all the back patting over the Cavs rebuilding their “war chest.” The move of flipping Burks for a first was obvious as long as Dan Gilbert was willing to spend the money. If I can figure it out months ago, any competent GM should. Taking good trade offers from other teams is baseline level performance for an NBA team. Yes, getting two seconds and Burks for Korver was a good move, but gutting the roster to acquire draft picks is the easy part. Turning those picks into winning NBA players is another game entirely – one Dan and Koby have shown little ability to execute.

And for as much as we’re happy that the Cavs have some draft picks, let’s never forget – in light of the ridiculous trade haul for which that the Pelicans are ransoming Anthony Davis – that the Cavs basically turned Kyrie Irving into Larry Nance and a bunch of mediocre to minimally valuable draft picks. As more than one tweeter noted, the Cavs should’ve stood their ground and waited for better offers.

Speaking of the Pelicans, this is the quote of the year in the NBA and there’s no close second.

I have to think the strength and desire to salt the earth around L.A. has garnered the Pelicans some respect around the NBA. It’s quite clear that Rich Paul lost this power play, has alienated LeBron’s team, and embarrassed himself and the Lakers. It’s hard to see how they recover from this, and the hilarious thing is that they’re still waiting for the Pelicans to call them back. Where do the Lakers pivot from here? It’s hard to say, but it seems increasingly likely that they have to pivot before the trade deadline. Expect Vucevik and/or Bradley Beal to be targets.

Speaking of LA-LA-Land, the Clippers trade of Boban and Tobias Harris to the Sixers double screws the Celtics. The Clippers pick they owe the Cs is lottery protected, and it looks like the tank job is probably in for Los Angeles. Meanwhile the Kings pick is top one protected, and with the Clips dropping out, it makes the Kings more likely to make the ‘offs.

The Lakers likely have a shot at the bought out Wayne Ellington, but I find their odds long for Trevor Ariza. Magic and Rob had a plan: play the young guys and build value, save salary space for summer 2019, and make their big splash then. Their roster isn’t even designed to be able to make trades this deadline. Their biggest contract (besides LeBron’s) is KCP’s $12 million, and he has a trade veto as a player with Bird rights on a one year deal. He’s not going anywhere. They have to aggregate like six salaries to trade for an Anthony Davis level player, which is why the deals you’ve seen have been so nuts. By kowtowing to James, they’ve destroyed their locker room, made themselves look like a very bizarre 2019 destination, and destroyed the value of their own (seemingly mentally fragile) players.

WWDDD? What would Dale Demps Do? He’d probably trade LeBron, and the Lakers if they’re thinking long term, should consider it. You know that as much as he’d be annoyed, Pat Riley would absolutely take back a pissed off LeBron with something to prove, and he’d give up solid young players to do it. What about Milwaukee or San Antonio? They’d certainly give up a bevy of young talent. It’s never going to happen, but it would be quite the comeuppance for the King. You’d probably never see another Klutch klient in a Lakers uni though.

Want another crazy idea? The Cavs should consider trading their first round pick. Just auction it off to the highest bidder? Why? Because it’s more valuable now than it probably will be after the lottery. The Cavs have an 86% chance of not getting Zion Williamson and a 47% chance of picking worse than fourth right now. Would the Wizards move Bradley Beal for Tristan Thompson, the Cavs’ unprotected pick, a future No. 1, and J.R. Smith? With future firsts coming, that has to be intriguing. Beal has two more years after this one and has been averaging like 27-6-6 since Wall went out. Taking the sure thing over a 14% chance at a super star should be a discussion.

Thankfully for me, it won’t happen. I mean I just did the lottery simulator over on tankathon.com, and the Cavs won two out of my first three tries. Never mind I said anything. This means they’re getting Zion.

…Man. Sports are weird. Grown men (and I use that term loosely) are simulating whether a future freak athlete millionaire gets to play basketball for their favorite cities. Meanwhile, the talk of what is happening off the floor and how rosters are constructed has come to define NBA fandom for many. The actual games have become of secondary importance to the daily melodrama. This is part of the reason NBA game ratings are flagging. I mean I get it. The first half of the season is mostly meaningless. But yeah. The NBA’s lack of parity is really starting to hurt the actual product. But as Tony Kornheiser notes, LeBron keeps Adam Silver in his front shirt pocket, so don’t expect the commish to actually do anything about it.

As for LeBron, well, this is IMO his worst week since the Decision. I mean yeah, there was the year he was standing in the corner in the NBA finals, but I mean he was in the NBA finals!

I mean the tone deafness there is staggering. And let’s not discount the effect that the oldest millenial, our current POTUS is having on the discourse in this country. The exclamation points. The all caps. It’s funny that for as much as many pro athletes bemoan the president, they sure do textually emote like him. As I tweeted yesterday, the similarities between the POTUS and the nominal GOATUS are becoming hard to miss. And it’s not just the social media grandstanding. The narcissism, the selfishness, the inability to look at ones self objectively, and the inability to shrug off a perceived slight or worse – a piece of news or opinion that hits too close to the mark – have become (or always were) a staples of political, sports, and entertainment monologues and dialogues. Those weaknesses leave folks standing at the mountaintop screaming at the world… or shouting at Ethan Sherwood Strauss and then dropping politely replacing the mic as KD did last night.

Maybe it’s because so many have no interior lives any more. Everything is out on social media to see, or because folks can’t delineate between what they should say in private and what they should put out to the world? And I’m not necessarily blaming the athletes. I mean when we look at LeBron, KD, or the Prez it’s clear the media makes it very difficult for them to have private lives as their innermost secrets are leaked to the press.

As my friend Dave once said, the media would follow these guys to the bathroom if they could. Still, it’s hard to feel that bad for folks that profit off the money they make from the following while simultaneously bemoaning the monster they’ve created. Maybe they have to be like Robert Zimmerman: invent Bob Dylan, a media persona to show to the world, while the real person is mysterious and fleeting (and probably a bit of an a-hole)…

As for the trade deadline, the Cavs will look to move JR but unless they get a good pick or a young player back, I doubt you’ll see it. Remember, (as it’s been described to me) JR has a special contract that can be traded after the season but before the 2019-2020 calendar year flips in July and then waived at his 2019-2020 guarantee number ($3.9 million). This makes it unlikely for a guy like Pau Gasol (who has a 6.7 million guarantee next year) the numbers are just too close, and the Cavs don’t want to add salary beyond next year, which rules out the Dion Waiters and Nic Batums of the world. It would take a lot to get those guys off the books for their respective squads.

Another problem is most of the guys teams want off their books make north of what the Cavs can aggregate in trades without going over the luxury tax. I’d love to add a guy like Dino Gallinari, but the trade only works if you include Zizic, Frye, and JR. The Cavs aren’t going to eat the rest of that salary. My bet is that JR is still a Cav by day’s end.

Well, stick around to riff on the day’s deals and marvel at the madness that is the NBA. It should be good popcorn fare. Maybe the games will even be good tonight.

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Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
11 days 1 hour ago

That was a fun 4th quarter to watch. I agree with Nate, and believe LA will make the playoffs. They just need to figure out a way to avoid GS in the first round.

John B
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John B
11 days 1 hour ago

Now that the clips traded Harris. Yeah
.before maybe not.

Jason
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Jason
11 days 1 hour ago

LA made me look dumb in the second half.

Kuzma huge. Rondo loves the big time. Huge win for LA.

I saw that if Sac missed the POs and wins the lotto, Philly would have the pick. I had forgotten that. A non-zero chance of Embiid, Simmons, Harris, Butler, Redick, and Zion is fun but scary.

Chris K
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Chris K
11 days 1 hour ago

I thought this might the second time LeBron peels off the jersey in the Garden, flings it into the crowd, and leaves his team wondering what his next move is…

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
11 days 1 hour ago

i admit when i’m wrong.. LA 129-128 over BOS.. pretty impressive.. bron outran father time tonight.. looks like the LA boys have some pride..

John B
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John B
11 days 1 hour ago

Meh. Against Boston. Not GS. Not even the raptors, bucks, or new sixers. Boston hasn’t put it together yet. Maybe they don’t until the playoffs. Not convinced they are better than those teams without Hayward being back to normal anyway.

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
11 days 1 hour ago

game also shows BOS doeen’t have what it takes to win the east.. they may be pretenders as well..they should have won this game.. at home.. up by almost 20.. they will not beat PHI, MIL or TOR.. imho

John B
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John B
11 days 1 hour ago

Nope. Depended on both Kyrie and Hayward coming back 100%. One has. The other hasn’t. Now the other three have improved. Boston hasn’t.

MikeO
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MikeO
11 days 1 hour ago

If that had been JR instead of Rondo, he would have dribbled the ball out to half court and waited to get fouled…

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
11 days 1 hour ago

“wrong way” smith

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
11 days 1 hour ago

Rondo buzzer beater!

MikeO
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MikeO
11 days 1 hour ago

Lakers have used up their allotment of made threes for the rest of the season in this game.

Jason
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Jason
11 days 1 hour ago

What up with moderation?

Lakers had a great 3rd. Celts retake the lead to start the 4th on a 10-2 run. Up 2.

MikeO
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MikeO
11 days 2 hours ago

I look at this Lakers team, and it seems incredibly obvious that AD is the last thing they need…if they just pick up a guy like Melo, and get a legit coach like Jason Kidd, they’re going to the Finals…

Chris K
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Chris K
11 days 2 hours ago

That’s funny. I am watching this team and thinking they need more Donyell Marshall-type stretch fours, inconsistent three-point shooters like Sasha Pavlovic, and Eric Snow floor general types…

MikeO
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MikeO
11 days 2 hours ago

Prime Eric Snow on this team would be amazing.

Chris K
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Chris K
11 days 1 hour ago

..backed up by a Damon Jones-type who really belongs as a sidekick on MTV’s Ridiculousness… how did that team win as much as it did?

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
11 days 2 hours ago

celtics lead la pretenders 57-41 w/4m left in 2ndQ.. c’mon,. admit it all you celtics haters.. doesn’t this one feel good?

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
11 days 2 hours ago

I’d rather see LA beat Boston.

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
11 days 2 hours ago

well.. i get that viewpoint as well..

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
11 days 2 hours ago

the trade value of the LA core continues to fade.. tatum 5/7 11pts in 16m.. ingram 1/8 in 16m 2pts

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
11 days 2 hours ago

sadly.. looks like i spoke too soon.. LA 92 BOS 87..

Jason
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Jason
11 days 3 hours ago

Boston is good.

Lakers are not at the moment. I am having doubts they catch the Kings. Maybe Luka catches them from behind.

NOMAD
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11 days 3 hours ago

LEBRON IN ‘CHILL ” MODE TONIGHT VS CELTICS–5 PTS/ 0 ASSISTS MIDWAY THRU 2ND QTR

John B
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John B
11 days 2 hours ago

Pouting

Jason
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Jason
11 days 3 hours ago

Just lagged on D as Browm dunks.

NOMAD
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NOMAD
11 days 3 hours ago

AMICO HOOPS REPORTS CAVS MAY PURSUE BEN MCLEMORE YEY/ NEY ?

Jason
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Jason
11 days 3 hours ago

Ney. But why not? We have essentially been conducting open tryouts all year: Harrison, Payne, Jones, Blossomgame, Adel.

I just am not optimistic about it. But we have an open spot, take a flier.

MikeO
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MikeO
11 days 3 hours ago

Meh?

John B
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John B
11 days 3 hours ago

Meh. Bustola.

NOMAD
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NOMAD
11 days 3 hours ago

R.I.P. FRANK —-PLAYER / MANAGER / TRULY FINE HUMAN BEING ——PIONEER IN BASEBALL !!!

Jason
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Jason
11 days 4 hours ago

FTS says no buyout for JR. We will look to move him in the summer.

I would think we would be able to flip that contract for something, it has a $12 mil cap savings (max) built into it.

John B
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John B
11 days 4 hours ago

Maybe for a second rounder. This was the big FA summer though I think. Though maybe for a team trying to clear cap for AD next year.

Jason
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Jason
11 days 5 hours ago

Kanter, Matthews, and Ellington all bought out. Gortat released.

Robin Lopez a prime candidate to get bought out. There will be others. Brewer looked good for Philly. House for Houston. Both are FAs.

MikeO
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MikeO
11 days 4 hours ago

Sixers have to want Ellington, right?

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
11 days 6 hours ago

Bron playing tonight vs celtics.. i would guess… NOT..

Patrick
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Patrick
11 days 7 hours ago

Raise a glass to the life and career of the late great Frank Robinson.

JoeyB
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JoeyB
11 days 6 hours ago

Amen.

Jason
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Jason
11 days 5 hours ago

Amen x2. MVP as a Red. 1st African Anerican manager for Cleveland. 586 HRS when THAT still meant something. Triple Crown winner. World Series MVP. Only player to win MVP in both leagues.

Likely a top 10 field player of all-time: Ruth, Gehrig, Cobb, Williams, Aaron, Mays, Hornsby, Wagner + take 2 from Robinson, Musial, DiMaggio, Speaker, Mantle, Bench, Josh Gibson, Schmidt, Jackie (take at least one from each position for consideration).

Chris K
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Chris K
11 days 3 hours ago

Partial as an O’s fan, but I appreciate your sentiments. His arrival ushered in the a Golden Age for them from 1966 to 1971. Check their run: six year, four World Series appearances and two championships…. wish I were old enough to have seen him play.

NOMAD
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NOMAD
11 days 7 hours ago

KNICKS ARE GOING TO WAIVE KANTER—HELL CAVS MIGHT AS WELL GET ANOTHER POST —-“8 IS GREAT ” : )

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
11 days 7 hours ago

i think ainge is going after kanter.. which makes BOS better.. should be interesting watching the top teams in east fight for position, and then go kick-boxing in the play-offs..i may watch a few of those games

NOMAD
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11 days 8 hours ago

I WAS SOMEWHAT PUZZLED BY RAPTORS TRADE ALSO –(GASOL )—-1 THING HE HAS OVER VUK/ HE CAN SHOOT THE 3/ PROBABLY BETTER TEAM DEFENSIVE PLAYER ALSO—WE SHALL SEE —-BELIEVE BUCKS GOT BETTER / 76ERS ALSO——COULD BE FUN WATCHING EASTERN TEAMS FIGHT IT OUT / ARE CELTICS STILL IN CONTENTION OR NOT ————–LOST YEAR FOR LEBRON IN L.A. / ONCE THE LAKERS DO WHATEVER THEY CAN POSSIBLY DO THIS SUMMER –LEBRON WILL BE 35 –“FATHER TIME ” CAN BE CRUEL !! ———NEXT PLAN –LEBRON DEMANDS TO BE TRADED TO CONTENDER —–GOOD LUCK WITH THAT ———WATCHING LAKERS ‘BLOW UP —-DRAMA ” WILL BE MORE ENTERTAINING THAN WATCHING THE REMAINDER REGULAR SEASON GAMES

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
11 days 8 hours ago

no bron-brow in la.. but they got muscala..

Jason
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Jason
11 days 8 hours ago

Muscala can shoot a bit. Philly was using him as a stretch 4 out of desperation, but he is much better as a stretch 5. LA got rid of Beasley, backed up Walton. (guess that was a bigger deal), and is now back to plan A.

Meanwhile, Raps trade Monroe and are down to 10 players. Think they are buyout players?

John B
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John B
11 days 8 hours ago

They also got rid of Zubac. Mistake. Rookie contract.

Jason
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Jason
11 days 5 hours ago

He is a FA this summer & signing him eats into their 2 max FAs plan.

Which is not happening. KD to Knicks. Kyrie too. Butler & Harris stay in Philly. Kawhi stays in Toronto or goes to the Clippers. Klay stays with GSW.

I think LA has a shot at Davis this summer. Do not think Team LeBron/Klutch is not going to remember how NO/Ainge did them. They will have a ton of leverage this summer. And will use it.

John B
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John B
11 days 5 hours ago

So he is. Thought he had a team option. They are about 28 million away from two max slots with who is under contract this summer. Unless they somehow got AD this summer.

Boston might not care whether AD says he will resign. If they think they are automatic finals birth with him they might do it anyway. Klutch won’t have anymore leverage than they had now since more teams will be able to offer packages. In fact they’ll have less since the lakers were mostly only game in town. Since a title run was unlikely no matter who AD went to midseason, it doesn’t change much. Next year’s playoffs is what matters for resigning.

Lakers still can’t match what Boston could offer even if Boston loses two picks in this years draft. They could offer four picks and still not be as valuable a deal. Boston is still likely to end up with two in this draft and can offer future picks as well. Trump card being they can offer Tatum and Brown as well.

John B
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John B
11 days 5 hours ago

Brons window is very short now. That contract could end up being poor value in year three, and especially year four.

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
11 days 8 hours ago

bron in a difficult situation.. father time creeping.. few want to play with him.. brow going to BOS.. lakers are what they are for the foreseeable future.. and that is rather unremarkable..

Chris K
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Chris K
11 days 3 hours ago

Is Cleveland looking better and better for LeBron?

John B
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John B
11 days 8 hours ago

He better hope they lure Kawhi, Irving, or Butler away this summer.

John B
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John B
11 days 6 hours ago

Or I guess KD. But there is kind of overlap there.

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
11 days 7 hours ago

i don’t think anyone wants to play robin to bron’s batman.. kd made that pretty clear.. the only way extraordinary talent goes to the LA Pretenders is via trade..

MikeO
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MikeO
11 days 8 hours ago

Bet they get Melo, who is their missing championship piece…

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
11 days 8 hours ago

unless TOR wins this year (which i doubt.. i think giannis and the bucks win the east).. i am not liking that move,, i liked big val’s game (we should have drafted him instead of TT).. val is 26.. gasol is 34.. we shall see.. but i don’t think TOR got that much better.. and the bucks did get better with mirotic..

John B
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John B
11 days 8 hours ago

Me neither. Not sure he is the same player he was. Seems like a win now move with regards to matching up with DMC. But that isn’t going to be enough to beat GS. Mirotic is a great pickup for Bucks. That team can always use more shooting with their 5 out system and they got that.

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
11 days 7 hours ago

TOR GM had the big balls to trade for kawhi, which i applaud.. but moving out big val for gasol is really stupid, imho.. it certainly doesn’t get them to the finals this year, and gasol is not a long-term foundation.. having a good year, but his window is closing..

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11 days 9 hours ago

OK THE BEASLEY / WALTON LOCKER ROOM EXCHANGE MORE THAN LAKERS INDICATED —–NEEDED SOMEHOW TO MOVE HIM OUT ——–LAKERS “ALL IN ” ON BUYOUTS : )—MELO AND LEBRON SOON TO BE REUNITED / SPEND THE REST OF THE SEASON DRINKING FINE WINE AND REMINISCING ————PELS = Pound Ever Lasting Salt ——-LAKERS !! : )

Jason
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Jason
11 days 9 hours ago

Philly getting OKCs first (2020) and our 2nd (2019).

Jason
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Jason
11 days 9 hours ago

Philly is not screwing around.
Simmons, Redick, Butler, Harris, Embiid
McConnel, Smith, Ennis, Simmons, Scott, Boban + Patton.

1 more spot for some wing buyout/shooting.

John B
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John B
11 days 8 hours ago

Harris and Scott are good shooters and Harris is a legit 3rd option. They got a lot better in their starting lineup, but also gave up three major bench players. Overall I think they got a lot better, on paper. That starting lineup is going to struggle to find shots for everyone though. And they gave up two first rounders for Harris, Scott, and Boban.

I think out of the bucks, raptors, and sixers, the sixers improved by far the most on paper. Should be interesting to see how the rest of the east season plays out at the top.

Jason
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Jason
11 days 9 hours ago

Well, it opens up a spot so they can sign Melo!! Hahahahaha!

In other news, looks like Philly has traded Fultz to Orlando for Jonathan Simmons, a 1st and a second.

John B
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John B
11 days 8 hours ago

Not a bad return for a guy who is probably donezo before he got off the ground.

NickNevers
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NickNevers
11 days 9 hours ago

Oh snap – Markelle Fultz to Orlando.

Jason
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Jason
11 days 9 hours ago

Lakers trade Zubac & Beasley to Clips for Muscala. That is hilarious. What are they doing?

And Clips get ready to waive Gortat. Zubac gonna start in Clipland.

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
11 days 9 hours ago

the lakers are screwed.. that’s enough for me..

Jason
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Jason
11 days 9 hours ago

Clips trade Avery Bradley to Grizz for expiring contracts of Temple and Green. Who can both play some. Cap clearing for summer.

Wonder if Gallo or PBev go as well. Though they are playing better than Bradley was.

Jason
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Jason
11 days 9 hours ago

Raps, Bucks, and 76ers all got seriously better. Houston & Sac a bit so. Bullock helps the Lakers but there are other factors.

Mavs too but unless Zinger plays that is next year.

Contenders also probably get some buyout guys.

Jason
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Jason
11 days 9 hours ago

That Miritic deal maybe an expansion of the earlier Pistons/Bucks Johnson/Maker deal.

Also, Marc Gasol reportedly to Toronto for Jonas, Wright, CJ Miles, and a second.

NOMAD
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NOMAD
11 days 10 hours ago

PER AMICO HOOPS—STAUKAS/ BALDWIN TRADED TO PACERS –WHO ARE PLANNING ON WAIVING BOTH —–LIFE IN THE NBA !! —–WORTH PICKING UP STAUKAS JUST FOR EVIL’S SAKE ; )

NOMAD
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NOMAD
11 days 10 hours ago

IF SO ( MIROTIC )–BUCKS ARE MAKING SOME NICE MOVES —“FEAR THE DEER “

Nick
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Nick
11 days 11 hours ago

Being reported that Mirotic being traded to Bucks. I didn’t see yet what both sides are trading.

MikeO
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MikeO
11 days 11 hours ago

Entertaining read here, Nate. I was thinking the same thing regarding EG and Sauce…bet EG was cursing about that. Sauce’s meme game is NBA level, while his hoops game is China level. I’m going to be away this afternoon, but I’ll rely on this thread to catch me up this evening.

Jason
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Jason
11 days 12 hours ago

3 HRS to go. No activity today. Conley/Gasol seem the likliest big pieces to move. Maybe Vucevic.

Jason
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Jason
11 days 12 hours ago
Great piece. And good rebuttal on Bron. I agree, this IS worse than 2011. Good point on the lack of no trade clause, I assumed he had one. Agree that staying under the luxury tax is a must this year. No way we do a deal that puts us over. But JR + Henson gets us to $25 million, so we maybe can climb the ladder if we need to (trade was on Dec 7th, so I am not sure if we meet the 2 month aggregation rule for Henson). So close IF not. And kind of a GM fail if we are off by a day. But it has been 60 days (31 in Jan). Two nits, one on the Kyrie trade. Yeah, the haul is getting less impressive daily, but boiling it down to just Nance is too reductionary. LNJ, Sexton, Zizic, plus whatever portion of the haul we got last year (IT/Crowder/Rose /Frye deal for LNJ, Hood, Hill, & Clarkson). On the generous side (zeroing out Rose/Frye/Dekker value), you get: Out: Kyrie (Fyre, Rose, Dekker) IN: LNJ, Sexton, Delly, Clarkson, Zizic, Henson, Bucks 1st (2022), 2 Bucks 2nds, + 2 2nds (Portland Hood deal). Not great, I… Read more »
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buck turgidson
11 days 9 hours ago

well said.. the cavs currently have a decent competent core (at least one i can get behind, and not feel the need to ridicule).. they just need to exceptional talent to push them back up to a competitive level.. extraordinary talent (if only 1 player) is the common denominator for all franchises that can win on any given evening.. as usual, we need lady luck’s assistance..

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NOMAD
11 days 12 hours ago

SO HOW SOON AFTER TRADE DEADLINE DO WE SEE T.T. / LOVE SUIT UP AND PLAY ? —OR DO WE LIMIT THEIR MIN’S –( RESUME THE TANKING PROCESS )—KEEPING THEM SOMEWHAT HEALTHY—MEANWHILE LET THE “YOUTH ” CHRISS / ANTE SHOW US WHAT THEY HAVE FOR FUTURE DECISION MAKING —–MAYBE FRYE CAN WORK ON CHRISS’S OUTSIDE SHOT

Jason
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Jason
11 days 12 hours ago

I do not think we limit them at all for tanking reasons. Just bringing them back slowly as they get into game shape.

We need to see Love/Cedi/Sexton on the floor together. Too bad we cannot see it with decent spacing (Korver, Hill, JR, Burks, even Hood). Best we can do is Delly + JC/LNJ or a two way guy. Have a sneaking suspicion if we put Love at the 5 and spread the floor, Sexton & Cedi will look better (as will Nwaba).

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11 days 13 hours ago
WOW—PERCULATE NATE / PERCULATE—ALOT OF GROUND COVERED —-PELS GET A THUMBS UP ( FOR A NOSE UP TO THE LAKERS )–BY THE ENTIRE LEAGUE —LEBRON / KLUTCH –LESSON —EVEN IF SILVERN WON’T PUNISH YOU FOR TAMPERING / THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO DO SO ——AND YEP LATE/ BUT A REMINDER TO KOLBY N.O.’S MOTTO ” PELS DON’T PANIC ‘ —NEAT IDEA ABOUT TRADING DRAFT PICK/ MOST PEOPLE DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE ODDS OF TOP PICK / 4 PICKS ” FALLING INTO CAVS LAP ” —-BUT HEY REMEMBER THE TRADE WITH THE CLIPS / WHEN WE GOT THE RIGHTS FOR “FLAT EARTH ” —-OUR LUCK WOULD BE WE DO THE TRADE ( DRAFT PICK ) AND IT WOULD END UP BEING ” THE ZION ‘ AWARD —-THINK WE KEEP / HOPE FOR THE BEST ————–THINK WE HAVE TO GIVE CHRISS A LEGITIMATE CHANCE / JUST DUE TO HIS AGE AND HIS ATHLETIC POTENTIAL– ( I KNOW I AM THE ETERNAL G LEAGUE OPTIMIST –) LIKE ONE POST MENTIONED –BILLY PRESTON 2.0 —–STILL 4 HRS LEFT TO TRADE DEADLINE MADNESS —THEN WE RETURN TO HO HUM NBA BASKETBALL ON THE COURT ——GREAT JOB NATE —THANK YOU !!
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