Live Thread: Cavs vs. Wizards (#TuesdayMagic)

It’s that day again Cavs fans… time to see if the magic of Tuesday can return for the wine & gold. After a stumble on the last one against the Pelicans (despite a furious comeback), what better team for the Cavs to conjure up another Tuesday win against than the visiting Wizards? After all, Cleveland had one of their more convincing victories the last time they saw Washington on December 8th.

For the first time, though, a Tuesday victory could result in just the second “win streak” of the season, coupled with the team’s gritty win on Sunday in Chicago. After mounting a rare comeback on the road against the Bulls, led by a solid effort from the bench, the starting back court and another promising game by Cedi Osman, the Cavs seem at least in decent spirits, despite still being plagued by injuries.

Prediction: Tuesday tradition requires me to prognosticate a lopsided score in favor of the opponent in order to properly fire up the Cavaliers… therefore I’ll say 133-103 Wizards.

Catch all the action, starting at 7pm EST on FSO… and, as always chime in below…

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West coast cav
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West coast cav
20 days 8 minutes ago

Feel like CtB’rs are a little rough on Sexton. Sure he’s a professional, he’s getting paid big dollars compared to us regular working types which opens him up to criticism, but he’s just a kid physically and mentally. Point guard is a cerebral position, it’s going to take time. He plays hard and he appears to have a good attitude. I think he’s sort of the perfect Cleveland prospect, “everything is earned” right? Keep working young bull, this is a town for working folks.

JOHN B
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JOHN B
19 days 23 hours ago

I actually like the fact he seems to try. I am just looking at him versus other top ten PGs his age from a purely development standpoint as far as ability to understand and run very very simple offensive concepts, as well as his vision. Vision doesn’t usually improve a ton. You either know how to make plays for other guys at an elite level or you don’t.

John B
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John B
19 days 23 hours ago

Not saying it it won’t improve. It will. But some guys are not and never will be very good playmakers.

Jason
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Jason
20 days 1 hour ago

Who gets the game ball?

Player: PTS/Reb/Ast; FG, 3PT, FT.
JC: 28/5/2. 10/15, 6/8, 2/4. 4 TOs.
Cedi: 25/5/7. 10/16, 4/8, 2/8. 3 TO/2stl/blk

Hon mention:
LNJ: 13/11/2. 6/8 FGs.
Zizic: 12/12/1. 6/10 FGs.
Delly: 10/2/2. 3/6 FG. 3/5 3s. 2 TOs.
Burks: 8/9/1. 3/7 FG. 1/4 3s. 1 TO.

Everyone who played had an assist. Everyone who got to the line missed a FT.

Jason
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Jason
20 days 1 hour ago

Cool that Cedi made the rising stars game.

I think we may be racing towards 4th in Zion league. This is our easiest stretch of schedule. 10/13 at home. Not a lot of elite teams. Could get Love/TT back. Gonna get some wins.

Jason
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Jason
20 days 1 hour ago

Cedi is really improving. But this is also year 2 in the NBA for him + his time in Turkey as a pro. First year of a LOT of NBA time, but a lot more pro experience.

Even for Zizic, it is year 3.

But this is year 1 for Sexton. And he is a PG. The hardest spot to play.

Still, a lot stuff to learn. They stopped playing. Cedi FTs/TOs. JC TOs.

Another game where everyone who played had a dime. 30 in all. That is a good sign.

CLF
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CLF
20 days 1 hour ago

That’s why it’s better IMO to look at their ages…. Cedi’s 23, Zizic just turned 22, Sexton just turned 20. Average NBA player hits their prime at age 25. They are years away from being their best selves, from a probability standpoint.

JOHN B
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JOHN B
20 days 3 minutes ago

True, but you also have to look at how far they have to go/their current developmental stage versus guys their age. Some guys are way way behind other guys who come out early, just from a fundamental standpoint, let alone major skills areas. A much much longer way to go than other guys that age mean a much much longer development time, and possibly a much more limited ceiling/peak.

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
20 days 1 hour ago

current cavs core “untouchables”.. big ZZZ, delly, cedi, clarkson, nwaba, lnj..

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
20 days 1 hour ago

i am on the fence with sexton.. but am leaning towards inviting him into the club.. he is after all but a yute.. and seems to have a work ethic..

Jason
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Jason
20 days 32 minutes ago

That is the bet we made with him. Young PGs almost always struggle. Even Magic had Norm Nixon early and played SG some early.

We certainly are not going to give up on the kid 50 games in.

Hard core (long term keep + talent) = Love, LNJ, Cedi, Delly.

Soft core (keep short term): TT, Clarkson, Nwaba, Zizic, Sexton.

We’ll see/wouldn’t mind staying: Burks, Henson, Adel (2 way), Blossomgame (2 way), Simmons (10 day).

Moving on: Frye, Hood, Smith.

MikeO
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MikeO
20 days 23 minutes ago

Yeah, agree. Also, a full offseason may make a big difference for Sexton. I certainly think he can be a useful NBA player…needs to get stronger with the ball, number one. I think Cedi can be a starter on a playoff team in the future.

JudeElysium
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JudeElysium
20 days 30 minutes ago

Pretty much my list too.

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
20 days 1 hour ago

re clarkson.. yes, he is no “yute” (can u name the film?).. but in his mid 20s.. he can put up these numbers consistently for many more years.. while he will not become an all-star, i think he can push towards 20 ppg.. we gotta keep him.. he is now on my cavs core “untouchables”

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
20 days 1 hour ago

cedi w team high 7 assists.. icing on cake.. very pleased he is growing.. just curious.. has some of the clarkson hate dissipated on this board? seems like his production in the back court is not very likely to be met by a rook, or via trade.. if he can grow his game a bit (re more assists).. we really need to keep him, right?

Jason
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Jason
20 days 1 hour ago

Burks had 9.

Clarkson has had some more balanced games of late (assists & boards). Perspective is some of it. On a team that has more effecient/elite scoring, his mistakes are magnified. On a team that needs his scoring, you tolerate more. I think he has been better..

Paired with Delly/Nance/Burks he works pretty well.

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
20 days 1 hour ago

i know this is likely heresy, but isn’t he almost a bargain at $12M?

West coast cav
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West coast cav
20 days 1 hour ago

I’m all for the Cavs playing well, just not too well. ZION

John B
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John B
20 days 1 hour ago

Feel like the Delly, JC, Burks, Cedi, Nance lineups could be consistently competitive with average teams.

JudeElysium
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JudeElysium
20 days 35 minutes ago

Or swap Zizic in for Burks for bigger lineups. That lineup has looked very good in limited minutes.

West coast cav
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West coast cav
20 days 2 hours ago

Holy s#@t we are not the worse team in the nba.

NOMAD
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NOMAD
20 days 2 hours ago

CEDI HAS “TURNED THE CORNER ” IN A POSITIVE WAY ——-MEANWHILE YOUNG BULL CONTINUES TO STRUGGLE———I KNOW— HAVE TO BE PATIENT —-SEE WHAT HE HOPEFULLY WILL DEVELOP IN 3 YRS —-BUT IT HAS BEEN PAINFUL TO WATCH HIS PLAY OF LATE——CAVS HAVE GOT TO GIVE HIM SOME SERIOUS / QUALITY MENTORING / COACHING / SKILL DEVELOPING

John B
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John B
20 days 1 hour ago

My fear is that the cavs might cheap out in the player dev department. Hope DG spends some big bucks to get a good former player that was a playmaker to come in and spend the next few seasons drilling fundamental offensive principles and ball handling skills into him.

NOMAD
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NOMAD
20 days 2 hours ago

KIND OF TUNED OUT ONCE WE WERE UP BY 25—-WTF HAPPENED —–EVIL’S “TUESDAY ” STREAK REINCARNATED

Simmo
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Simmo
20 days 2 hours ago

Have missed the last two games. 2 wins in a row. Coincidence? Should I just not watch anymore?

Woohoo!! Go boys!!

John B
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John B
20 days 2 hours ago

Maybe you need to stop watching and I need to finish watching games live.

John B
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John B
20 days 2 hours ago

Pretty certain every time I stop watching is when the other teams go on a huge run.

John B
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John B
20 days 2 hours ago

Cedi had a great game, but some god awful turnovers, and a ton of missed free throws including clutch ones. JC had a great game but also had some brutal turnovers. Nance was very good. Active defensively. Same with Delly. Zizic was solid, but you cannot throw a pass more than a foot above his head because he just will not get off the ground at all.

John B
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John B
20 days 2 hours ago

Sexton was brutal in every aspect. No one really tried to just blow by him tonight. Dumb on the wizards part.

CLF
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CLF
20 days 2 hours ago

Cavaliers 4th quarter defense was atrocious…. gave up 44 points.

Nate Smith
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20 days 2 hours ago

Sorry
My phone died. There. Jesus
Nice save, cedi.

CLF
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CLF
20 days 2 hours ago

CEDI WITH THE STEAL!!! Finally.

CLF
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CLF
20 days 2 hours ago

WTF…. 48% FT for the Cavs??? Cedi is 2-8????

John B
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John B
20 days 2 hours ago

No matter what happens, what an epic utterly monumental collapse. Up by 25 in late third.

John B
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John B
20 days 2 hours ago

God sxton doesn’t even know how to get open off an inbound. So so far behind developmentally for a point guard in basically every aspect of the game save midrange shots. If he doesn’t bust, it will be a long time before he is an average player. 3-4 years maybe.

CLF
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CLF
20 days 2 hours ago

NICE HUSTLE SEXTON AND NANCE!!

CLF
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CLF
20 days 2 hours ago

Great drive Clarkson!!!

CLF
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CLF
20 days 2 hours ago

Nice strong drive and finish Hood!!!

NOMAD
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NOMAD
20 days 2 hours ago

TOLD YOU YOUNG BULL WOULD COME IN WITH “GOTTA GET MINE ” ATTITUDE ———JUST LEARN TO PLAY WITHIN THE FLOW OF THE GAME SON

NOMAD
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NOMAD
20 days 2 hours ago

REVENGE GAME / QTR FOR ” ORANGE MAMBA ” —TALKIN ABOUT ‘CHUCKERS ‘

NOMAD
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NOMAD
20 days 2 hours ago

HAVE WE HAD A BLOWOUT GAME ( YEAH I KNOW MANY “AGAINST US ) THIS YEAR

CLF
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CLF
20 days 2 hours ago

Nice pass Delly, GREAT HANDS AND FINISH ZIZIC!

Scotch
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Scotch
20 days 2 hours ago

C’mon guys get Deng Adel some shots!

CLF
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CLF
20 days 2 hours ago

CLARKSON AGAIN!!!!!

CLF
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CLF
20 days 2 hours ago

Great pass Delly…. LNJ draws the foul.

Rob
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Rob
20 days 2 hours ago

Best game of year. I would love to see a starting Frontcourt of Cedi Nance Love post ASG. Smart players who pass well. Would need Delly to help with the D though!

CLF
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CLF
20 days 2 hours ago

Nice hesitation move Clarkson, draws the foul.

Nate Smith
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20 days 2 hours ago

Delly Turkey trey!

Nate Smith
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20 days 2 hours ago

Cedi is a revelation.

CLF
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CLF
20 days 2 hours ago

DELLY TRAY PART DEUX!!!

NOMAD
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NOMAD
20 days 2 hours ago

TIME FOR ” MR 4TH QTR –G.B. “–TO PAT THE STAT SHEET —WHY NOT AFTER ALL IT IS HIS BOBBLEHEAD NIGHT

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
20 days 2 hours ago

mea cupla.. i saw a close to 20 pt difference.. and my neural nets immediately registered the cavs being on the bottom.. on second glance.. go cavs.. go for 35 cedi..

CLF
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CLF
20 days 2 hours ago

DELLY TRAY!!!!!

CLF
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CLF
20 days 2 hours ago

CLARKSON OFF THE DRIBBLE!!!

CLF
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CLF
20 days 2 hours ago

CLARKSON PURE FROM THREE!!

NOMAD
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NOMAD
20 days 2 hours ago

GOOD TO SEE LNJ BACK HEALTHY WITH THOSE “AMAZING HOPS “—–WE WANT ‘BRYANT ” SIMMONS —-JUST THOUGHT I WOULD START THE CHANT TO GET NATE GOING ; )

CLF
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CLF
20 days 2 hours ago

CLARKSON WITH THE DROP OFF TO NANCE!!!

CLF
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CLF
20 days 2 hours ago

CEDI TO NANCE FOR THE OOP!!!

Nate Smith
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20 days 2 hours ago

What a pass by Clarkson my

Scotch
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Scotch
20 days 2 hours ago

That was a filthy good quarter on offense.

NOMAD
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NOMAD
20 days 2 hours ago

THE “MAGICAL ” 23 ASSISTS —WHICH IN PAST YEARS GARANTEED VICTORY—–NOT SO SURE THIS YEAR

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