Live Thread: Cavs vs Raptors
2018-12-01
It’s a tall order for the Cavs, tonight. Cleveland looks to bounce back from a moribund loss to Boston while the Raptors are coming off an overtime victory against the defending NBA champion Warriors. Yeah, the Raps look the best team in the Association right now, with Kawhi gunning for his first NBA MVP, Kyle Lowry leading all players in assists, and Paskal Siakam locking down most improved player award. Oh, and put Nick Nurse on the shortlist for coach of the year.
The Raps have two All-Star locks in Lowry and Leonard and Serge Ibaka is having his best season in years. If the Cavs have any hope, their bench will have to outplay Toronto’s sometimes lackluster subs led by Danny Green and Fred VanVleet. Unfortunately, VanVleet has a history as a Cavs killer.
On the injury report, Ante Zizic is doubtful with a knee injury, George Hill is questionable, and Dekker, Nwaba, and Hill are still out. Only Norman Powell still seems hurt for Toronto. This one’s gonna be all about little victories. Can Collin Sexton look better than he did in Boston? Can Alex Burks continue his positive play? Can the Cavs keep from adding anyone to the injury list? Honestly, I’m just hoping we have to don’t rename the town to Kawhiveland.
Dukies in a rout over Stetson: 113-49.
Zion: 18 min; 17/7/2/5/0; 7-9; 0-2
Barrett: 17 min; 26/7/7/4/0; 12-14; 2-4
Reddish: 23 min; 23/4/1/2/0; 8-15; 4-9
Toronto is good and deep deep.
Yep. Kawhi is top 5 easily. Maybe #1 in terms of a two way player.
AC they can’t finish a game because they’re a bad team.
Nice effort tonight. Really found something with Burks. Sexton was useless.
Looks like the scouting is out on Sexton. Drew and staff need to start working some options for the kid. As soon as he gets the ball we all know what he’s going to do.
Agreed. He and Clarkson as the 2nd unit backcourt really worked well.
Tough one for Sexton. Gonna have to keep working & improving.
Cavs got lucky they didn’t review that. Teams should be able to request a review on ob calls late. It’s ridiculous what they don’t review. Cavs got screwed by that a couple weeks ago.
That Cedi turnover was brutal. He’s gotta shoot or attack coming off that screen.
VanVleet is so solid. Still feel like this would be a neck and neck game if the officiating had been even.
Van Vleet kills us every game.
At least they figured out how to keep CJ MIles from hitting a three against them… small victory there.
seriously think Cedi thinks he’s Lebron with his iso stuff and trying to do crazy passes and drives. he needs to cut that out and focus on his strengths which is spot up shooting and hustle
Burks & Clarkson are both hot & have better matchups. They should be initiating.
Yeah, Cedi attacking Kawhi. Whose idea was that?
These kind of games are great. Cavs look competitive, players developing, but we lose and maintain our draft position
Agree on both counts.
Burks for 3. Back within 7.
Burks looking like a ping pong ball. Refs see nothing.
Burks is a better slasher than I thought.
Burks is a catalyst tonight. Raps still getting calls.
Yep. With decent officiating we are at least even. But that is the NBA. Has been for decades. We do not have anyone at a level where they get reputation calls.
On defense, Kawhi, Ibaka, & Green all get them.
Thompson guarding Kawhi. Interesting.
Lenoard gets away with the offensive hook EVERY TIME.
Pushes off the next time down. Ridiculous.
Why the hell did the Cavs sub out Frye? He opened the whole lane. Argh.
Burks mugged again. No call on Kawhi.
Love Frye getting minutes. Someone called for it a couple days ago. Good call.
And another!
A foul call!
Frye in and the lane is now open!
Burks to 8!
Good fightback! Back to 10.
Still in with a shot.
Cavs closing strong, amazingly. Chance to cut it 10 to end the quarter!
Urban Meyer’s conservative playcalling costing OSU any shot at a PO berth.
The refs are doing all they can to help out Northwestern too
That TD pass wasn’t conservative
It was 3rd and 18. He ran on 1st & 20 and 2nd & 20 knowing they need style points. Haskins bailed him out with a perfect pass.
He ran 6/7 plays the previous possession after a TO. And wimped out at the end of half.
Haskins is like 18 of 22 (or 19) for 250.
Cavs not generating any efficient shots right now
Larry gotta get a tech. His team is getting no calls.
Apparently Kawhi is allowed to just stiff arm and get an and1.
Cedi defending amd passing well
Tough stretch for Cedi. 2 missed treys and a jumper from the FT line. Gives up an and 1 on D
Thompson has to be in ball screen axtion against good tes or he just eats up all driving lanes.
Trnjust clogging up the lane.
The calls in this game are absurd. Ive counted like a dozen points the Raptors have off of bs no calls or bad bailouts, and we should have about 10 more free throws.
Especially the Kawhi is a “good defender” and can do whatever the hell he pleases is getting ridiculous
Agreed. Rhen the blatant uncalled travel in valanciunas amd the legit callnin cedi but ine that’s not called nearly as often.
NBA refs call based on reputation and apoearance/anticipation a ton.
They call a lot of fouls they do not see. Non-existant fouls. That should never happen.
With Love hurt, Hill is our best player.
D is good enough to win. 47 pts at half.
Without the garbage refs this is even.
Hill, to cedi, to hill! Pretty!
Raps are another really good defense. When we start to iso we are really gonna struggle. Gonna need good ball & body movement to have any shot.
Zero calls as well. The one on Sexton was atrocious. Burks got mugged a couple with no call.
This officiating is straight garbage.
Some interesting stuff from Drew tonight.
1) Starting Sexton & Hill with Cedi at the 4.
2) Still playing TT & LNJ some.
3) A 2nd unit with Clarkson as the PG + Burks, Hood, LNJ, & TT.
Sexton looks like a Junior High kid subbing in the Men’s league tonight.
Sexton awful tonight. Just getting swallowed up on d.
Ibaka flops his way inro a call. Ridiculous
Cavs getting zero calls
Cavs in a big scoring drought this quarter
even if they fall apart in the 2nd half, they are still competing in “small games” otherwise known as quarters.. pretty impressive, especially given last night’s loss.. impressive
You are not gonna beat this lineup with isolations
Nuce first quarter defensively
Raps hip checking on screens.
Nance paying dividends early
Buckeyes up 7-0
Sexton pretty awful on both ends so far.
Jesus Collin. Attack ibaka
Barf . Read the scouting report on vanvleet, collin.
Oy. Sexton snaking his roll man for a 20 foot clanker
Good start. Drew going with Cedi at the 4.
Cedi with absolute stellar defense on Leonard.
Nice pace early. Hill back and Lowry out is huge
Hill, Sexton, Hood, Osman, TT.
based on a cursory review of burks output over the last year or so.. when he gets to play 20m or more per game, he seems to be averaging about 15pts (possibly a bit more) per game.. last night was right on target.. .which is about 1.5x his “average” 9.6 ppg.. give him the minutes.. . i like the trade
Lowry is out for the Raptors.
That helps a little.
Nice preview. Tough one tonight in all likelihood. As you say, hope for some little victories.