Cavs Offer Trade Exception for Andre Iguodala
2011-06-09
Iguodala has been linked to the Orlando Magic in a deal built around Hedo Turkoglu and Jameer Nelson, although sources near the 76ers say that’s the least attractive offer they have received.
Iguodala was linked to the Golden State Warriors in a straight up transaction involving Monta Ellis and just yesterday word surfaced of a deal with the Clippers involving Chris Kaman.
The 76ers have had their share of suitors, with Cleveland offering to absorb Iguodala’s $13.5 million salary using their $14.5 million Traded Player Exception.
Andre Iguodala terrifies me. Like, “1000 Word Column Pleading Not to Trade for Him” terrifies me.
What we do is get a player that isn’t as good as iggy. Or we get iggy and hope that he injures himself for one year and returns back to his normal form next season after we already have a core of irving, jonas v, hickson, and 2012 draft pick. But my second idea isn’t very likely so maybe we should just go with the first one.
I would had liked Gerald Wallace over Iggy.
The biggest issue with acquiring a “good but not great” player out of the trade exemption, is the possibility of becoming nothing more than an 7/8th pick in the playoffs. And what would that get us? No chances at a lottery pick and nobody wanting to come to Cleveland…
So what do we do?
Who would you guys use the trade exception on?
Hoopsdog, you are completely correct on Hickson.
I don’t want to spend, or have wasted, another season on “waiting for Hickson to get it”. He either shows that he gave a damn during the offseason and shows up ready to play or it’s time for Grant to start looking for trades.
I’m giving Hickson one more year. He seemed to “get it” towards the end of last year. He was incredibly young when he joined the team, and I’m reminded of late bloomers like Jermaine O’Neal, Zack Randolph, and Rashard Lewis. Remember, last year would have been his senior year in college.
I agree no one on this team will be on the level of a Kevin Durant. However, I think Irving can be as good as Westbrook, especially after seeing his extremely inconsistent play during the playoffs. Samardo can definitely be a good rotation player for this team. But if you don’t see Hickson as having the potential to be a major factor for the Cavs, then it is even more important to think long term and avoid short-term moves like trading for Iguodala.
OKC’s “core four” includes one first team all-NBA player and one second team All-NBA player. How many of the Cavs’ core will have that potential? Rebuilding is hard.
Alex — I don’t really see Hickson as part of a “core four” like you mentioned, unless he gained some type of basketball iq during the off season. He has the body/abilities, but has no clue what to do with them 75% if the time. Shit you not, I’m liking Samardo before Hickson after seeing what he was doing towards the end of last season.
@Jeff: Trading for Iguodala puts us at the 7/8 seed with little potential to win a championship. The last time we had the #1 pick, we mortaged the future for a bunch of short term gains (see:Ben Wallace, Mo Williams, Shaq, Antawn Jamison) and look how that turned out. The team got too average too quickly. Had the team picked #7 or #8 in the 2004 NBA draft, we would have drafted Loul Deng or Andre Iguodala instead of Luke Jackson. Patience is a virtue and I would rather sacrifice 5 wins this year for a shot at a high… Read more »
The trade exception expires soon doesn’t it? I would rather have Iggy than lost it for nothing. Also, the draft is a roll of the dice. All of you wanting to suck for another year to get a high pick are taking a risk. The chances of getting a top 3 pick are not high. May as well try and win some games and see what happens…Byron ain’t gonna stick around forever to coach a 20-win team and Gilbert has proven he’ll pony up when need be. Iggy won’t push the Cavs to the top, but come on they were… Read more »
Using the exception for iguodala is a great idea. The only ways to attract talent to Cleveland is draft or trade. He may have limits but can contribute to the next competitive Cavs squad. He’s a productive player, period. If the Cavs can pick up a player like him with the trade exception they have to do it unless theres a better offer somewhere else.
Nah, you’re fine Joey. I’m not staking my journalistic integrity on the Cavs having proposed this deal. This is just the best evidence I have encountered so far.
And Iz: yeah, Krolik’s been doing work for the Heat Index. He writes for a lot of other outlets: NYT’s Off the Dribble, NBC’s ProBasketballTalk, etc.
YALL SOUND CRAZY ADDING IGGY WOULD BE GREAT FOR THE CAVS THEY SAID THE TRADE EXCEPTION FOR IGGY MEANING THE CONTRACT IS TAKING CARE OF AND IT SAID NOTHING ABOUT CLEVELAND GIVING UP ANY OF THERE PICKS !!!
Colin, I’m not trying to be pita but this is just a blogger referencing another blogger. Now if it had been the Cavs’ front office making those statements, then yeah I could see the need to post it.
Again, I’m not trying to be an ass. I like your work and respect your opinions, it just seems like an irrelevant post that’s all. No harm intended.
Btw, I was reading espn’s 5 on 5 and I don’t know if it was a mistake or if I’m behind on some news, but it said John Krolik-Heat Index
This is the first I’ve heard of a confirmed offer by the Cavs to the Sixers. I had only heard rumors involving Iguodala before.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/luke_winn/06/08/nba.draft.williams.jenkins/index.html?sct=nba_t11_a1
“To recap: Williams was the nation’s most efficient forward in ISOs, spot-ups and pick-and-rolls, and was fourth-most efficient in the post.” Argh. I feel like we’re going to take the point guard version of Greg Oden.
The only way this makes sense is if we get draft picks/a prospect too. I think this might’ve been a rumor last year (before the losing streak) that HoopsWorld is republishing. I doubt Grant is this dumb.
So if this is just repetitive info, why is it a news update?
You know the scene at the beginning of Super Troopers when the stoners get pulled over, and Officer Ramathorn says him and Rabbit are gonna stand there and watch them smoke the whole bag of weed? And then the kid tripping out in back lets out the feebles “please no.” That’s what I sound like when I read headlines and articles like these.
If the Cavaliers were able to get Iggy. I would jump on the opportunity, then draft Irving, And Kanter!!!
Why get iggy when there are other options (mayo, marvin williams, etc.) That are cheaper but are not good enough to launch us into 8th/7th seed?
I screwed up my own grammar lesson. “in the Cavs’ old logo.”
JAG, there is no apostrophe in Clippers, Warriors, or Cavs. Apostrophes are only used for contractions and when referring to possession. That’s why there was no apostrophe between the basketball hoop V and the S in the Cavs old logo.
pickign up irving, iggy and a big would go a long way towards moving the cavs back to respectability
i really dont think the cavs are in a position to complain about getting a borderline allstar who is actually underrated, maybe the best wing defender in the league and miscast as a #1 option on O
I got to think that the supposed offers from the Clipper’s, Magic and Warrior’s all look a lot better to Philly. I just don’t see much chance of a trade with the Cav’s happening unless the Cav’s drastically sweetened the deal.
Hope it would include getting their 16th pick.
I’m pretty sure that the Cavs part was refers to the offer that they made earlier this season when they were still not sure if they were going for a full rebuild vs quick rebuild on the fly. I find it very unlikely that the Cavs have that offer still on the table.
Perhaps Grant is banking on hitting it out of the park with the 2 draft picks. I say that because I think Iggy would be a great 3rd option / defensive stopper.
Otherwise, yeah, tough to justify that contract for a rebuilding team.
Yes, Igoudala would make us good enough for the 7/8 spot, but not good enough to be competitive…
Don’t do it Grant!!!
NOOO! This would be a terrible move. Andre Iguodala is the personification of mediocrity. If this happens, next year we will end up with the 8th seed, subsequently get destroyed by Miami/Chicago, and just miss out on a quality rookie because we won’t be in the lottery.
I would much rather suffer another year for a shot at being a title contender in 3 years than being mediocre for the next 5.