Recap: Charlotte 126, Cleveland 94 (Hornets Destroy Cavs)

After another eventful week for the roller coaster that is life with the Cleveland Cavaliers, the team was back in action last night as they visited the Charlotte Hornets. Behind the red hot Kemba Walker and the offense installed by new head coach James Borrego, the Hornets are looking to return to the playoffs for the first time since 2016. Meanwhile, the Cavaliers are just trying to find their footing after starting the season 1-7 and losing Kevin Love to toe surgery.

First Quarter

On the pre-game show, Sam Dekker broke down how he impacts the offense. He then started the game by giving up an easy basket to Marvin Williams. If that doesn’t sum up how the season has gone so far, I don’t know what does. The game started off a bit sloppy, with both teams committing a couple of sloppy turnovers by traveling and committing offensive fouls. The Cavaliers couldn’t buy a basket early, scoring just three points in the first four-plus minutes of the game. Despite scoring a bit in transition, the Hornets weren’t much better, and the Cavaliers came out of the first time out moving the ball a bit better to keep the game close. Walker started to heat up, and the Hornets took advantage of the Cavaliers’ atrocious transition defense to begin to pull away. JR Smith came off the bench ahead of both Kyle Korver and David Nwaba, and provided a bit of a spark with five points and some energy off the dribble. Unfortunately for the Cavaliers, Tony Parker went to work on Collin Sexton in exactly the way you would expect the veteran to do with the rookie, drawing a pair of shooting fouls and giving the Hornets a 30-22 lead after one.

Second Quarter

As has been the case throughout the season, the Cavaliers struggled to attack the basket off the dribble, bogging down the offense in the half court. Tony Parker turned back the clock with a mid-range jumper and a funky layup to push the Hornets’ lead to double digits. Shockingly, the Cavs were outshooting the Hornets from deep, and Smith hit his second three of the game (and season) to keep the game close. That didn’t last long, as the Hornets went on an 8-0 run behind a pair of layups and a corner three by Williams. To their credit, the Cavaliers kept fighting back, and a pair of threes by Kyle Korver. The Hornets went to Cody Zeller, who had his way down low to keep the Hornets ahead. The spacing Smith and Korver provided also helped the Cavaliers move the ball a bit better than previous games, and they actually outscored the Hornets in the second quarter. Still, the Hornets lead at the half by a score of 59-52.

Third Quarter

The Cavs came out attacking the basket a bit better to start the quarter, and cut the Hornets’ lead to three behind a pair of free throws by Cedi Osman. With that energy came some mistakes on offense, and a pair of turnovers helped the Hornets re-take control of the game. While the Cavs did a better job of getting out in transition offensively, their transition (and half court) defense continued to struggle. They also continued to turn the ball over as the Hornets pushed the lead to double digits. The Cavaliers’ offense went cold as the quarter went on, while their defense remained abysmal, and the Hornets led by 20 as we entered the fourth quarter with a score of 93-73.

Fourth Quarter

There isn’t much to say about this quarter. The Hornets continued to pick apart the Cavaliers’ defense, while the Cavs struggled to create open looks on offense. Despite it being garbage time for the Hornets, the game got further out of hand, with Charlotte leading by as many as 32 before it mercifully ended with a final score of 126-94.

Things I Noticed

Rodney Hood has had a negative impact on the court throughout this young season. He doesn’t shoot enough from deep, struggles with both getting to and finishing at the rim, and plays with no physicality on defense. One good game out of eight simply means that he has played seven bad games. While Hood has done a somewhat better job of moving the ball the past few games, that’s not saying much. He just disappears far too often. At 26 and in his fifth year in the NBA, Hood is who he is, and that is a player who simply can’t be counted on.

As bad as Hood has been, what Jordan Clarkson is doing to Collin Sexton’s development is even worse. It’s been said a bunch, but Sexton needs to get more of his minutes away from Clarkson. While Clarkson has been scoring with solid efficiency to start the season, it doesn’t feel real He isn’t shooting well from deep, and is making an unsustainable number of mid-range shots. To make matters worse, he’s a ball-dominant player who simply doesn’t pass. Despite his scoring, the Cavaliers typically play their worst when Clarkson is on the floor. By playing with Clarkson, Sexton doesn’t get the ball nearly enough. He needs touches to learn how to run the offense, create for himself and others, and work on his outside shot. This team is terrible, and developing the true young players such as Sexton and Osman should be their number one priority. There’s plenty of skepticism right now about Sexton’s potential, but the Cavaliers aren’t doing him any favors by playing him with Clarkson.

Tristan Thompson post-ups are a terrible idea. I love Tristan, and think he doesn’t get the appreciation he deserves, but post-ups are inefficient shots in general, and Thompson simply isn’t good at them.

Sam Dekker isn’t good, but he is active, and that could lead to something with further development. Dekker has to improve his defense and finishing in the half court, but he does a nice job of cutting to the rim and running in transition. His shooting looks much improved, and he shows some potential off the dribble, especially for a four. At 24 years old, he’s the third-youngest player in the rotation behind Osman and Sexton, and younger than Hood, Clarkson, Larry Nance Jr., and Nwaba. With further playing time and development, Dekker could have the makings of a solid bench player.

Larry Nance Jr. missed a layup and dunk that he should’ve made tonight and airballed another jumper. Nance is a solid player, and analytics love him, but he isn’t quite the player some make him out to be. By and large, Thompson has been the better player for the Cavs this season.

It was nice to see JR Smith play decent basketball tonight, at least on offense. JR and Cavs fans have developed a special bond over the past four years, and he should always be remembered fondly in Cleveland. While I understood his frustrations with the front office, I also didn’t think he had much of a leg to stand on. After all, he’s been one of the worst rotation players in the NBA over the past two seasons. That’s far too long to still think that he’s deserves playing time based on merit. Whatever happens going forward, I hope that it can somehow end amicably between JR Smith and the Cavaliers.

That was ugly. This team is likely the worst in the NBA. Be The Fight is a stupid slogan. I’m done.

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Arch Stanton
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12 days 17 hours ago

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12 days 17 hours ago

Just flip the chart 180 degrees for the exciting lottery race!

JOHN B
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JOHN B
12 days 17 hours ago

So by that, the Suns are about on the cavs level as far as net efficiency and Washington isn’t too far away.

Arch Stanton
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12 days 17 hours ago

So now that Drew is the HC, that means Longo is THE VOICE!

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JOHN B
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JOHN B
12 days 17 hours ago

Good all around.

Arch Stanton
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12 days 17 hours ago

Any normalcy is good.

MikeO
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12 days 23 hours ago

Obscure Rockets twitter source who has apparently made correct calls in the past is saying Butler to Rockets, to be announced by late afternoon Tuesday. Nothing would surprise me. If I were the Wolves, I would have sent off his circus act weeks ago. He’s been basically been clowing the organization.

Arch Stanton
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12 days 23 hours ago

I feel like I had heard they were previously offering 4 first rounders for Butler

JOHN B
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JOHN B
12 days 22 hours ago

Holy heck that is a haul compared to what most teams get for stars in their last year, especially with that kind of situation.

Arch Stanton
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12 days 22 hours ago

Yeah I don’t know if that is official or not?

JOHN B
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12 days 22 hours ago

Well wolves blogs were saying the rumor was Thibs was asking an exorbitant price. Part of the reason the Miami deal fell thru. Thibs went back at the last second after medical were ready to be exchanged and asked for another first rounder or something like that and Riley said something along the lines of, “you motherf$&@%*r,” and hung up the phone. Or so the rumors on the wolves blog proclaimed.

MikeO
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12 days 23 hours ago

Yeah, that was the rumor, and some crummy contracts, Brandon Knight and someone else…maybe Gordon if they’re lucky…

Arch Stanton
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12 days 23 hours ago

He will make them contenders again

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12 days 21 hours ago

I hope he goes to the rockets and they get bounced in the 1st round. He’s a punk.

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buck turgidson
13 days 18 minutes ago

without our vaunted vets.. is it possible to go 1-81?

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buck turgidson
13 days 13 minutes ago

they better fill the roster with garbage, so as to give cover to the rest of the “core talent” on the team, who are likely losing whatever confidence they may have had.. i imagine many will soon be heaving into the porcelain prior to game time, because they know what is coming..

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12 days 23 hours ago

We could have an all star team and we’d still be mediocre.

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12 days 23 hours ago

a few days i opined that this was a pro team, and that i would not trade this team for an ncaa college team.. actually, today, i would trade the cav-nots for a decent div1 team

JRL
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12 days 21 hours ago

Yeah it’s turning into a sh!tshow rather quickly.

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13 days 20 minutes ago

time to trade the “assets” for some 3rd round picks.. :)

John B
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12 days 23 hours ago

Give it a rest. The team has assets. If you can’t see how Korver has a fair amount of value to a contender lacking shooting, not sure you’re watching bball. Hill’s contract alone has value for teams looking to shed cap.

Also most of these guys would likely be playing a lot better on another team. You know one where the coaching didn’t do didley squat during the summer. One where the players weren’t completely unprepared for the season, or one where the staff was even slightly organized. Season was lost before it even began.

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12 days 23 hours ago

re sexton.. no talent (or less than previously believed).. or not coached well.. or both?

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And I am not going to say Sexton is a bust 8 games in. He hasn’t been great, but he is a rookie. He is asked to do a lot compared to most guys after him, who are all on much better teams (relative to cavs minus love) save for maybe Mikal, and Knox who has only played two games. He also hasn’t been in put a position to really try to run the second unit. Clarkson generally dominates the ball with that group. Would rather start Sexton and let hill provide some punch off the bench. Sexton also needs all the shooters we can muster around him at all times. That includes Korver, and likely JR with Love out. He doesn’t look good, but give him a year and an offseason to develop a shot. This class was stacked, with the top 5 performing well. Mikal and Miles are doing well in limited roles. Shai looks good on a much better team. Knox hasn’t played much. Let him actually play point. Throw him in p and rs with Korver, Cedi, JR, and nance around him. See how he does. I was ok with the pick. Would have like Mikal… Read more »
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We didn’t have a ton of talent. We have zero margin for error without love. We had slim margin for error coming into the season. I didn’t think we would make the playoffs. But with Love I think we should have been about a 30-35 win team with good coaching. Which is bad. If we completely underachieved (with a healthy roster) 20-25 was probably in order. However, I expected some changes in the offseason by the coaching staff. We saw none. Literally zero, save for “pace”. We didn’t even run elbow sets for love which they had very very occasionally in the past three years. Instead we did the opposite. The coaching staff not only failed to utilize Love in his best spots, we tried to run the same playground system we ran with LBJ, without LBJ. They seemed to encourage midrange jumpers?!! That is the definition of bad coaching. Beyond that we tried the same stupid switching system on d which A. we don’t have the bigs to truly do, and B. We have failed to execute properly the last three years for the majority of the time. How is that possible? How many times have we seen confusion… Read more »
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12 days 22 hours ago

I mean I have thrown up videos from bball breakdown detailing the cavs utter confusion on d. I have mentioned how other coaches install entirely new offensive and defensive systems in a single summer. We have seen it many times. Recently, Kerr did so and Bud has done it twice in a bout five years with two different teams with entirely different personnel, styles, and systems.

Which is why I say the season was lost before it began. That work needs to happen in the offseason. It can be done, but is much more difficult to implement in season. I am not sure we will even be able to judge Drew because of it. You start before summer league. That is where you come up with your scheme. Then you implement in summer league. Kerr had a bunch of his sets installed in that first summer league. You fully install it in camp. You do a dry run in preseason. Even with a shortened preseason, Bud did it this year. We weren’t running much of anything in summer league. Leads me to believe we didn’t even try.

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12 days 22 hours ago

Lastly, there were the rotations. Can’t blame Lue for not playing KK if the rumors are true. However, the failure to not recognize the Clarkson/Sexton pairing as a disaster after three games is utterly inconceivable. Rotations are something we can judge Drew on. And he has failed to change that as well.

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12 days 20 hours ago

in short.. gonna be a long nasty slog through the muck for awhile.. to which i concur.. thx for the analysis..

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12 days 19 hours ago

They need to find a great coach in the offseason and stick with them for the long haul. One that is from the Spurs Tree. If Walton gets fired he would probably be good for a young team. He was for the lakers last year. Needs to be someone with tactical x and so savvy. Tired of being outcoached game to game and having no system.

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AMICO HOOPS—-SAM WANTS KOLBY TO GUT THE ROSTER–ASAP—–SOMETIMES I READ SAM WITH A LOT OF SPECULATION—THS TIME I HAVE TO AGREE WITH HIS WRITING—ALTHOUGH I WOULD TRY TO TRADE T.T. AS WELL

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13 days 25 minutes ago

i love amico.. but he needed till now to make this pronouncement? your favorite uncle buck has been telling you this team had ZERO talent for quite some time, and was headed for an epic multi-year humiliation.. bring up the g-leaguers.. is alonzo gee still abailable?

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13 days 26 minutes ago

Hard to argue with much in that Amico column.

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13 days 27 minutes ago

With Love out for such a long while, there’s no reason to try and keep the vets. It’s definitely time for a rebuild.

Man it’s going to be rough 😑

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SIMMO -A- LATE CONGRATS —YOU THE MAN—RAISED 5 BOYS MYSELF—-NOW 4 GRANDSONS–2 GRANDAUGHTERS ——-GRANDSONS ARE OUT ON THE FARM ALMOST DAILY —WHICH I TRULY CHERISH (MOST OF THE TIMES )– ; )

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Thanks Nomad!

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TOTALLY AGRE E WITH YOU MIKEO/ HOPE THE LAKERS –BELIEVE THEY WILL ==HAVE ALL THE DRAMA THAT THE LA-BRON CAVS HAD –GOOD LUCK WITH THAT—ALL WE NOW FOR THE LAKERS IS FOR LAVAR TO START SHOOTING HIS MOUTH OFF

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13 days 3 hours ago

I think the Lakers were down 41-10 last night in the 1st qtr…interesting – a game like that for the Lebron Cavs would have resulted in all sorts of coaching/ trade rumors. Lakers may need to pull the trigger on a TT/ JR trade sooner than they expected. Also, they may need to look at Jason Kidd to come in…

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13 days 12 hours ago

Thanks for the write-up Mike. I’ve missed most games this season, it hasn’t sounded fun though.

JRL – thanks for the tip on free game streams – finally got around to sorting it out and am watching the Raptors dismember the Lakers. So I may be around on the live threads a bit more for a while.

My spare time is likely to evaporate come April next year though, as we are expecting another child. Very much against the odds (we are both in our 40s). Our minds are still boggling, but we couldn’t be happier.

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12 days 16 hours ago

Thanks guys.

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Congrats!

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Congrats!

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Congrats!

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13 days 12 hours ago

HEY CONGRATULATIONS SIMMO!!!

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sorry that’s me ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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Thanks CLF!

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13 days 5 hours ago

Congrats!!!!!
Glad you got the streaming going.

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13 days 13 hours ago

I was camping and thankfully missed the last two games. The beginning of the season had so much promise, no LeBron- win now or nothing drama, Cedi seemingly on the verge of blooming into something special, a hard working, athletic Sexton, Kevin Love looking to take on a leading role in sustaining a winning culture. That seems a million games ago. We deserve better. Just a couple of years ago we were champions, we had LeBron and Kyrie and Kevin. Gilbert May sign big checks, but regardless of his pocketbook his ego has undermined the team again and again. I wish he’d sign one more check for what I spent on the team nba package so I wouldn’t miss a game of the cav’s s#@t show.

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13 days 5 hours ago

So true. In 10 games is gone from fun to total abomination.

Arch Stanton
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13 days 13 hours ago

Toronto scored 42 points in the first quarter.

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13 days 12 hours ago

Kawhi isn’t playing tonight, right? Lucky for the Lakers…they’d really get curb stomped if he was…

Arch Stanton
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13 days 13 hours ago

Raptors destroying the Lakers 69-45 in the 2nd Q.

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13 days 14 hours ago

ORL just toasted SA.. the current “bad” teams are an order of magnitude more competent than the cav-nots, including ORL.. sorry folks, ORL smokes the hometown boys by at least 20, and likely 30.. it’s an easy mantra and seems to work.. plus, the stress of the losses is going to start being a rather large monkey on their shoulders.. 1-9 coming our way..

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13 days 14 hours ago

Washington, Phoenix, are likely close to our level. Unless the team gives up. Which they may have already done. Those teams consistently have been smoked like we have. They all may have more talent, but it isn’t translating much yet.

Think the bad start in the first 6 or so games has snowballed. Coupled with chemistry issues, being unprepared in terms of defensive schemes and a lack of an offense to start the season, and Love being out and this team may quit soon.

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13 days 14 hours ago

by the way, i agree with those who want the g-team guys up here.. could they possibly be worse?

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13 days 14 hours ago

Compared to who? Hood? Sexton? Clarkson’s effect on the offensive rhythm? No likely not. They would be rookies and Colson would be a four. Maybe he is equal to tt if he can shoot a little. But at this point why not? Think those three guards are the major issue though.

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13 days 14 hours ago

who wins tonight? TOR vs LAL? i am rooting for the northern lights..

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13 days 14 hours ago

I can’t ever “root” for a laker team. Toronto seems fun. I like them ok, but the Bucks look like they may come out of the east.

It is early, but it is clear now that Bud is one of the top five coaches in the league. Always thought he was very very good. He is more than that. Designed a system that perfectly fit those Atlanta teams’ personnel. They overachieved because of it. Now he has done the same for the offense and defensive schemes for a different team with different personnel. That is the definition of great coaching. Not sure Bucks are the most talented 1-10. But they certainly are maximizing their personnel.

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13 days 13 hours ago

You can always root for lebron

John B
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13 days 12 hours ago

Meh. As long as he is on LA I am sort of apathetic to that team. Would rather root for a team like Denver out west. They play the most appealing style. Still underdogs, but they have had some good wins including GS’s lone loss.

Probably root for the bucks to be legit and somehow pull off an upset if they make it to the finals. They have the length and athleticism to maybe cause issues for gs. With their new three happy 5 out system with Brook Lopez making a decent amount of Trey’s and anchoring their interior d I think they are for real. I hope they are. Would love to see them knock off Boston. Raptors are fun too.

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13 days 14 hours ago

Only took him a summer to take a team that was basically the same as I think was last year and to turn them into monsters.

JOHN B
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JOHN B
13 days 14 hours ago

Also why the cavs coaching has been so frustrating over the years. Other coaches can install entirely new systems in single summers. We can’t. Maybe never even tried.

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13 days 15 hours ago

uh oh.. if brooklyn can beat a healthy philly, i may have to adjust my forecast to 2-41

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
13 days 15 hours ago

by early feb, and 5-77 for the year..

Arch Stanton
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13 days 15 hours ago

How many wins in 2019-20?

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13 days 15 hours ago

lets wait to see how they screw up the draft, and how many low second rounders they can amass when they try to liquidate their “assets”

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buck turgidson
13 days 15 hours ago

from what has been posted below, it appears that the FrntOff stooges screwed up another first rounder.. just another ball and chain around the organization’s neck.. let’s call it the cavs version of bling.. i see many, many years of rending of garments and talking to parking meters for those who cannot understand the depth of the hole that has been dug.. mgmt seems not to understand the basic theory of holes.. but you guys all know the first rule of holes, right?

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13 days 14 hours ago

Cool, sunshine. Glad you’re so happy.

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13 days 15 hours ago

gotta believe LBJ is laughing his ass off..

JOHN B
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13 days 14 hours ago

We wouldn’t be in a situation without his constant one year deals used to threaten them with leaving if they didn’t to sacrifice the team’s sustainable competitiveness. We never got four years. He’ll be a terrible owner judging by his impatience.

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13 days 14 hours ago

i agree with the contract issue.. but i understand why he kept bigD on a short leash

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
13 days 14 hours ago

and magic is, well, magic johnson.. so i understand the trust issue there as well

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13 days 17 hours ago

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13 days 20 hours ago

TY WITH 15 MILLION—-NO INSOMNIA —PROBABLY DO SOME SPOTS ON ESPN / TNT / —HEY HE IS “LIVING THE DREAM “—-HIM AND BLATT ARE —” LTAO” : )

Arch Stanton
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13 days 18 hours ago

I doubt Lue does TV. He hated doing media.

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13 days 20 hours ago

I decided to skipped the last two games and not worry about basketball/sports. I think it was the right decision.

Wonder if Lue is laughing his way to the bank?

Arch Stanton
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13 days 20 hours ago

According to Jason Lloyd, some staff hated working for Gilbert, but loved getting fired by Gilbert with years left on their contract.

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13 days 20 hours ago

I imagine Lue is pretty delighted with his situation. I’d be.

Arch Stanton
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13 days 21 hours ago

They should do right by Korver and trade him, even if they only get a 2nd rounder.

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13 days 16 hours ago

thats all they get for any of the “assets”

John B
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13 days 16 hours ago

They might be able to finagle a first towards the trade deadline. Some playoff team will probably be desperate for one of the best catch and shoot players in the league. And he is still that. He is still a huge offensive weapon if utilized correctly. We just don’t do that.

So yeah as much as you would like to believe he isn’t, he is a major asset. Just have to be patient. Any number of so called contenders could use him this year and likely know how to use him correct.

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13 days 14 hours ago

i hope you are right..

JOHN B
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13 days 14 hours ago

LA could probably use him a lot and obviously despite all of the bs spouted about taking time, they are clearly in win now mode. Typical. NO could probably use him. Houston probably could. Spurs would probably love a guy like that, but they’re probably too savvy.

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13 days 20 hours ago

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with keeping him around until the trade deadline and seeing what a contender would offer. Teams like the Lakers, Sixers, Spurs, Jazz, Bucks could all potentially use his services. Keep him around as a shooting coach for Sexton and Cedi until then. Same goes for Hill who can provide veteran leadership.

Guys like JR and TT, though, would be ones I would jettison ASAP. Not sure what the Cavs would get in return due to their contracts.

Arch Stanton
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13 days 20 hours ago

It sounded like there was an agreement that they would trade Korver, if LeBron didn’t resign.

MikeO
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13 days 18 hours ago

Yeah…if they really told him that, they should have traded him over the summer…

Arch Stanton
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13 days 17 hours ago

It’s noted in the article Nate posted below.

MikeO
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13 days 16 hours ago

Well, right, but it’s a ‘sources say’ thing…I have little doubt that it’s accurate, but no one has gone on the record to my knowledge…

Arch Stanton
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13 days 16 hours ago

From the article: The first player Altman ever signed to a contract as GM was Kyle Korver. It was a three-year, $22 million deal inked in July of 2017, but it came with an understanding: If LeBron were to leave, the Cavs would either trade Korver or buy him out of the deal so he could move his family to his next team during the summer. So when LeBron left July 1 for the Lakers, Korver asked for the Cavs to move him. They refused because, they told him, they wanted him to play and for the team to try and win. To be fair, in the event of a Korver trade they would want maximum value in return, like a first-round pick. Anyway, the same basic message of competing now was communicated to Kevin Love before he agreed to a four-year, $120 million extension and to rest of the returning players.

Arch Stanton
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13 days 21 hours ago

I’m no longer worried about losing the pick the next two years.

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13 days 21 hours ago

TRIBE !!

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
13 days 21 hours ago

Oh, answering my question….

Arch Stanton
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13 days 21 hours ago

What does this mean?

Arch Stanton
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13 days 22 hours ago

Who will win first the Browns or the Cavs?

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13 days 23 hours ago

” AND THE BEAT GOES ON……..THE BEAT GOES ON “——-THOUGHT VARDON IS THE ONE WHO ALWAYS ANNOYED / GOT UNDER TY’S SKIN——NOW IT ALMOST APPEARS THAT HE IS TRYING TO DEFEND TY ??—–CAN’T BELIEVE THE PLAYERS ARE THAT ‘DOWN ” ON SEXTON ——MAYBE AFTER LOSSES HE IS JUST TRYING TO STAY “UPBEAT ” YOUTHFUL ENTHUSIASM

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13 days 22 hours ago

I think all the beat guys are/ were pretty chummy with Lue.

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JOHN B
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13 days 23 hours ago

I don’t buy it.

Arch Stanton
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14 days 1 hour ago

Gosh…. what a S%^T Show!

From Vardon: Throughout the organization, the line on Sexton is that he does not “know how to play.” He doesn’t know how to defend the pick and roll. He doesn’t know how to set up teammates as a point guard.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
14 days 1 hour ago

Per Vardon: At one point during Saturday’s game, veteran starting point guard George Hill told Sexton he’d teach him how to play defense. Only, there is little confidence in the locker room that Sexton will listen to him. Remember when I wrote during the preseason that the Cavs’ players loved Sexton? Well, that was true then. And they don’t think he’s like a bad guy now. They know he’s 19 and he only played one year of college ball. They still think he’s a nice kid. But they see his deficiencies, they know he’s going to be on the court, and they’re discouraged when after these losses, he doesn’t seem bothered by them.

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
13 days 16 hours ago

the stooges did it again didn’t they? screwed up another first rounder.. just another ball and chain around the organization’s neck.. let’s call it the cavs version of bling.. i see many, many years of rending of garments and talking to parking meters for those who cannot understand the depth of the hole that has been dug.. mgmt seems not to understand the basic theory of holes.. but you guys all know the first rule of holes, right?

JOHN B
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JOHN B
13 days 14 hours ago

Bucket of joy.

MikeO
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MikeO
14 days 2 hours ago

Shark show.

NOMAD
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NOMAD
14 days 3 hours ago

PREDICTION—( SEE IF YOU AGREE WITH ME BUCK )——OHIO STATE WILL LOSE IT ‘S GAMES TO BOTH THE MICHIGAN TEAMS—-BARELY GET A “W” AT MARYLAND—-POSSIBLY LOSE

NOMAD
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NOMAD
14 days 3 hours ago

HATE TO KEEP REPEATING MYSELF–( AT MY AGE THAT IS QUITE OFTEN )—BUT IF WE ARE IN FULL REBUILD / TANK MODE / WHICH I BELIEVE WE ARE IN—-THEN BRING UP –BONZI -23 / 16 / 3 BLK’S —REALIZE IT IS GLEAGUE—BUT THE KID HAS POTENTIAL—–MIGHT AS WELL LEARN UP IN THE BIGS—PRACTICE / PLAY AGAINST NBA PLAYERS DAILY —-SPEED UP THE GROWTH PROCESS——WTF DO WE HAVE TO LOSE –BESIDES ANOTHER GAME—–WE DO HAVE TO REACH 4 “W”s BEFORE 40TH LOSS SO I CAN WIN MY BET AGAINST BUCK :)

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
13 days 16 hours ago

keep trusting those flying unicorns..

LAbron
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LAbron
14 days 7 hours ago

Gilbert should have let griffin run the whole operations in 2017 after we lost in the finals. We could still be the King of the east and contend for the finals for the next 5 years. Dan, just sell the team maybe to give fans any consolation.

GreekCavsFan
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GreekCavsFan
14 days 7 hours ago

I haven’t been able to watch a lot of basketball this season and I haven’t been able to comment a lot, though I read the blog religiously. I have only been able to watch only some quarters of Cavs basketball, so my opinion is not very well rounded, but from what I have seen this is a team that lacks any kind playmaking especially with Love out.
Who would have thought that not having a system for years other than “Lebron do what you do” would have consequences on a team. Too many possessions end with TT attempting some sort of dribble drive or some other kind of basketball absurdity. And don’t get me started on Clarkson.
The bright side is we keep the pick but with the kind of management the Cavs have I am very sceptical anything good can come out of it.

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
14 days 9 hours ago

uncle buck has been speaking clearly but no one has been listening.. yes, this is one of the saddest teams ever assembled in the nba.. and yes, we will be paying for the LBJ years for far longer than the LBJ years..

JOHN B
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JOHN B
14 days 2 hours ago

Fact is we could have a much better roster and we still might suck. Our defense would definitely still suck. We have no offensive plan. Players don’t know what the heck they are supposed to do on either end. This is what years of not practicing much, taking the regular season casually, and having no plan on offense or defense gets you. There is just no system that players are familiar with. We’re still playing street ball.

Nate Smith
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14 days 3 hours ago

Do you think they’ll win many games?

John B
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John B
14 days 12 hours ago

I didn’t watch the game. How much was the d losing people/confusion on d? If it happened a lot, it should be somewhat fixable.

If that is the case I think the lack of practices last year and focus on team defensive principle really hurt the Cavs the last few years. It just seems impossible a team could be so lost/confused on d for so long.

NOMAD
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NOMAD
14 days 15 hours ago

YEAH NOT A QUESTION “IF ” IT WILL BREAK —IT IS “WHEN “—-WATCHING CHARGE–BONZI – 15 REB’S /COUPLE BLOCKS / 22 PTS/– WAS OPEN ON 3-4 BASKETBALL CUTS —GD’S DIDN’T SEE/ MAKE THE PASS——THINK THE CAVS NEED TO FIND A SPOT FOR THIS KID——-WISCONSIN ANNOUNCERS ALSO IMPRESSED WITH HIM

Tom Pestak
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14 days 15 hours ago

every game the Cavs play is like when a team plays the warriors. they might hang around, but at some point the dam will break

NOMAD
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NOMAD
14 days 15 hours ago

WHAT WAS THE CAVS NET WORTH / VALUE IN 2016——-WHAT IS IT NOW—–GILBERT HAS HAD TO LOSE MILLIONS

NOMAD
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NOMAD
14 days 15 hours ago

WISH KOLBY WOULD INTERVINE ——INFORM OUR “VOICE “—-SEXTON HAS TO START OR GET MUCH MORE MIN’S WITH HILL / 1ST GROUP—LESS MIN’S WITH CLARKSON —THAT CONVERSATION SHOULD HAPPEN BEFORE THE NEXT GAME ——BACK TO THE CHARGE I GO

NOMAD
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NOMAD
14 days 15 hours ago

WOW TALKING ABOUT BEING QUICK / EFFICIENT———-BONZI WITH 19 / 9 IN 20 MIN’S/ AND GOOD “D” / INTELLIGENT BASKETBALL DECISIONS —-WOULD SIGN HIM RIGHT NOW —BRING HIM UP ——-MAKE HIM PART OF THE FUTURE

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