Live Thread: Cavs @ Hornets

One thing you have to give the Cleveland Cavaliers, it’s never boring with them. In the past week alone, they’ve fired their head coach, had their associate head coach all but refuse a move to the head chair, had Quicken Loans Arena named as the site of the 2022 NBA All-Star Game, had owner Dan Gilbert and general manager Koby Altman named in an age discrimination lawsuit by former assistant coach Jim Boylan, and had Kevin Love, the team’s best player, undergo surgery on his toe that will sideline him indefinitely. Oh, and they actually won a game. Who says that LeBron caused all the drama?

Tonight, the Cavaliers head to Charlotte to take on a Hornets team that is looking to return to the playoffs for the first time since 2016. While they are just 4-5 to start the season, they are outscoring opponents by nearly five points per game and three of their losses have been by two points or less. Kemba Walker is off to the best start of his career, averaging 29 points per game, and Nicolas Batum has been healthy and effective to start the season. New head coach James Borrego has done a nice job of finding ways to get as much shooting on the floor as possible, and his decision to play Michael Kidd-Gilchrist almost solely as a big man has paid dividends.

Meanwhile, the Cavaliers are in disarray both on and off the court. They were always going to struggle if and when Love got hurt, but they are also playing an inefficient style of offense that leads to a ton of mid-range jumpshots. Combined with one of the worst defenses in the league, and it’s no wonder why they are 1-7 to start the season.

At this point, the goal should be to try to establish systems on both sides of the ball and get players such as Cedi Osman and Collin Sexton valuable experience. We’ll see how it goes.

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MikeO
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MikeO
14 days 13 hours ago

And I’m still aboard the ‘Brandon Ingram is just a guy and obscenely overrated’ train. Lakers should have traded him over the summer.

MikeO
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MikeO
14 days 13 hours ago

Meyers Leonard is pretty useless. Blazers have too many of those ‘not useful, but paid too much’ guys.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
14 days 14 hours ago

“The Voice” is 1-2.

Nate Smith
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14 days 15 hours ago

Vic is filthy.

CLF
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CLF
14 days 14 hours ago

Pulled a Kyrie on Kyrie LOL

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
14 days 14 hours ago

Right in the flat earthers face

CLF
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CLF
14 days 15 hours ago

Atlanta pulls it off against Miami… Trae Young with 24pts 15 assists.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
14 days 15 hours ago

JudeElysium
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JudeElysium
14 days 1 hour ago

BS lawsuit. Next step is JR suing the Cavs for “going young”.

(And no, I don’t think JR would actually do that).

Nate Smith
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14 days 15 hours ago

You can’t sue someone for not picking up your contract.

Nate Smith
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14 days 15 hours ago

Well, you can’t win, at least.

Scotch
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Scotch
14 days 15 hours ago

What? This is garbage. Gilbert isnt near the bottom

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
14 days 15 hours ago

olidipo and co beat the celtics.. heck of a player

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
14 days 15 hours ago

outplayed the ego

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
14 days 15 hours ago

I can see it already… Dan Gilbert to the media: “There’s a deep state operating in my FO.”

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
14 days 16 hours ago

How many games until Gilbert fires the FO and the coaching staff and becomes the GM/Coach?

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
14 days 15 hours ago

@ 1-20

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
14 days 16 hours ago

NOMAD
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NOMAD
14 days 16 hours ago

ONLY WHEN I DRINK TOO MANY ADULT BEVERAGES—( FLYING UNICORNS )—-I AM JUST SAYING THEY ONLY NEED 3 MORE WINS ( TO SURPASS YOUR PREDICTION )–I AM NOT SAYING THEY ARE GOOD–JUST SAYING TEAMS DO GET LUCKY AND OTHER TEAMS DO UNDER PERFORM

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
14 days 16 hours ago

i sincerely hope u r right.. i don’t enjoy seeing my home town mocked..

CLF
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CLF
14 days 16 hours ago

Cavs bench got clowned tonight. Charlotte has a well oiled machine with Tony Parker, Malik Monk, Miles Bridges, MKG leading their bench.

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
14 days 16 hours ago

hek of a game between bos-indiana.. and we could have had olidipo..

Nate Smith
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14 days 15 hours ago

6 years ago…

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
14 days 15 hours ago

and would have changed the course of history.. :)

Nate Smith
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14 days 15 hours ago

Right, which includes my greatest sports memory. So i’m good wuth how it turned out.

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
14 days 12 hours ago

olidipo over bennett doesn’t mean no 2016 victory.. but i understand your perspective

NOMAD
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NOMAD
14 days 16 hours ago

I HEAR / UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU GUYS ARE COMING FROM ON SEXTON——STILL THINK IT IS EARLY / PREMATURE——JUST WAIT UNTIL SEASON ENDS —LOOK BACK —WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE A MORE ACCURATE PICTURE OF THEIR POTENTIAL OR LACK OF ——-DO AGREE WITH YOU ON KEEPING KLOVE —–AM SURE THEY ALREADY HAVE HAD TALKS WITH HIM PERTAINING TO THIS—MIGHT BE GOOD HE IS SITTING OUT —-ALTHOUGH THE INJURY MIGHT REDUCE HIS TRADE VALUE SOMEWHAT —–YEAH SAW YOUNG HAVING A GOOD NIGHT —WISH THEY WOULD START SEXTON WITH HILL HUST SEE WHAT HAPPENS

Chris K
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Chris K
14 days 15 hours ago

On Sexton, I agree–and one must consider, there isn’t much “coaching up” going on with that young man. One must also consider his surroundings, which is the basketball equivalent of summer school…

Nate Smith
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14 days 15 hours ago

Absolutely. Can’t tell anything about him when he’s playing with Clarkson.

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
14 days 16 hours ago

this team is even worse than i previously thought.. amazing

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
14 days 16 hours ago

so much for a new coach saving the day.. send the team over to lourdes

CLF
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CLF
14 days 16 hours ago

Trae Young with an excellent night so far…. 16 points and 12 assists 5 rebounds on efficient shooting against the Heat.

CLF
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CLF
14 days 16 hours ago

Also Huerter and Spellman doing pretty well tonight… I continue to think they killed their draft.

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
14 days 16 hours ago

the cavs are so profoundly worse than there “comparables” that it isn’t even funny

Joeyb
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Joeyb
14 days 16 hours ago

I’m not sure we can justify keeping Love. This team isn’t one draft away. Love will be 33 before we can contend.

Nate Smith
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14 days 15 hours ago

Uh. He has a huge contract and an injury history. He has to prove he can play at a high level again before another team will even think about trading for him.

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
14 days 16 hours ago

stay tuned for my orlando preview.. it’s actually pretty easy guys.. they will lose by at least 20.. and probably 30.. will work for most of the games this year

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
14 days 16 hours ago

this is what pathetic looks like.. 3-40 my amigos

JudeElysium
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JudeElysium
13 days 21 hours ago

You do realize that your “realism” kinda comes off a bit more “whiney and annoying”.
Either you’re not a Cavs fan, which makes me wonder how you accidentally keep reading and posting stuff about the Cavs…
Or you are a Cavs fan that is disappointed with the team and somehow thinks if you insult them enough they’ll magically get better…or you think complaining about them somehow metaphysically distances you from their bad fortune or something…

Or you could just like being a troll. Don’t get me a wrong, there is plenty of stuff to talk about the team that is a problem or can be handled differently, etc. But if you’re not just trolling, what exactly are you attempting to accomplish with your endlessly creative ways of saying you think they are terrible?

Nate Smith
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14 days 15 hours ago

How many games do you think theyll win?

NOMAD
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NOMAD
14 days 16 hours ago

BUCK THAT WAS ME—I WILL STILL TAKE THAT BET—NO WAY THEY GO 3-40

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
14 days 16 hours ago

do you believe in flying unicorns too?

Joeyb
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Joeyb
14 days 16 hours ago

4-39 fo sho.

NOMAD
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NOMAD
14 days 16 hours ago

JUST THINK YOU GIVE MINUTES TO SWISH / KORVER—HOPE THEY PLAY WELL—-1ST GOOD TRADE OFFER–JUMP AT IT ———PLAY THE YOUTH—-LIVE WITH THE PAINS—-EVALUATE THE TALENT —-WHO CAN MAKE YOU BETTER IN YEARS TO COME——-CAN YOU SAY “ZION ” ?

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
14 days 16 hours ago

so.. did we screw up last years draft as well? do we think either of the bridges was a better pick than sexton?

John B
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John B
14 days 15 hours ago

Miles I am convinced has all star potential in a few years. I didn’t think so at the time of the draft tho

Nate Smith
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14 days 15 hours ago

The next four guys were better.

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
14 days 12 hours ago

who is that on? boy wonder or bigD?

Joeyb
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Joeyb
14 days 16 hours ago

Yes. Thought so at the time.

Joeyb
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Joeyb
14 days 16 hours ago

I guess if we just let JR shoot away someone might trade for him.

NOMAD
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NOMAD
14 days 16 hours ago

JOEY B RIGHT ON BOTH ACCOUNTS ——THINK WE COULD ALL BE HAPPY / SUPPORTIVE IS IMPROVEMENT IS BEING SEEN/ COMPETITVE GAMES BEING PLAYED

NOMAD
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NOMAD
14 days 16 hours ago

BONZI WITH 12/ 7 @ HALF TIME—–KID CAN PLAY—GOOD BASKETBALL I.Q. —CHARGE DOWN 4 —GOOD GAME ——-PRESTON SHOWING HIS ATHLETICISM—-NEEDS A TON OF AKILL WORK / PLAYING TIME

Joeyb
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Joeyb
14 days 16 hours ago

Sexton is minus 24 in 13 minutes. Against Charlotte.

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
14 days 16 hours ago

g hill vs tony parker.. hmmm.. how come we always get the wrong dudes?

Joeyb
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Joeyb
14 days 16 hours ago

Lebron carried this team to the finals. There should be no more discussion of greatest ever.

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
14 days 16 hours ago

YES..YES..YES…… it is truly a mystery for the ages.. what he was able to do with this mess!!!!!!

Joeyb
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Joeyb
14 days 16 hours ago

Well, at least we don’t have to tank to keep the pick.

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
14 days 16 hours ago

surprising even me.. r u fu$%king kidding me??!! 110-81 @ 7:00 in 4th..

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
14 days 16 hours ago

who was saying they wanted to make bet about 3-40?

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
14 days 16 hours ago

years ago, someone smart said “hope is not a method”.. cavs dan and the boy wonder need to wake up..” i think we can.. i think we can” doesn’t work either..

Nate Smith
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14 days 16 hours ago

*sigh* Bridges would look so good filling in for Kevin Love right now.

Joeyb
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Joeyb
14 days 16 hours ago

Someone explain jr over Nwaba.

cowbuki
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cowbuki
14 days 16 hours ago

Cavs do not have a starting nba quality player at any position. Also, they appear confused on both ends, and in transition. These things may not forebode a good season…

Nate Smith
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14 days 16 hours ago

The ton/son backcourt has to go. They are AWFUL together.

Joeyb
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Joeyb
14 days 16 hours ago

Yeah. Makes no sense at all.

CLF
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CLF
14 days 16 hours ago

Charlotte ball movement just vastly superior

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
14 days 16 hours ago

CHA is not a great team.. kemba is not en fuego.. cav-nots are still down by 20 at end of 3rd.. so, they are having their asses handed to them by who? mediocre players.. not a good sign

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
14 days 16 hours ago

parker.. aka father time.. is having a decent game.. but he is way past his prime

Nate Smith
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14 days 16 hours ago

Why whould you even have clarkson on the floor there on a defensive possession? Thats just terrible coaching.

CLF
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CLF
14 days 16 hours ago

The bench is all out of sync

Nate Smith
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14 days 16 hours ago

Jesus. The dumb turnovers this game.

Nate Smith
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14 days 16 hours ago

Long twos…

CLF
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CLF
14 days 16 hours ago

Korver getting mugged out here

Nate Smith
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14 days 16 hours ago

Korver so good without the ball.

CLF
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CLF
14 days 16 hours ago

Nice ball movement!!! Nance with the and 1

Nate Smith
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14 days 16 hours ago

Nice play out of to. Nice finish, Larry

NOMAD
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NOMAD
14 days 16 hours ago

WISCONSIN HERD UNIFORMS ARE SWEET !!!

NOMAD
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NOMAD
14 days 16 hours ago

YEP RIGHT ON SCHEDULE TO GO 3-40- RIGHT BUCKO

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
14 days 16 hours ago

That sounds like a February prediction

Nate Smith
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14 days 16 hours ago

Id try nwaba on parker.

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
14 days 16 hours ago

just checked in to espn for the score..85-68 @2:21 of 3rd.. right on schedule

Nate Smith
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14 days 16 hours ago

You think they’ll win?

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
14 days 16 hours ago

i wish they would.. i don’t enjoy this any more than you do.. i have just surrendered to my cynicism.. fighting it is to hard.. i hope they can make some good moves.. luck into some good draft picks.. and grow a decent team.. not holding my breath, but i would like that for all concerned

Nate Smith
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14 days 16 hours ago

Charlotte bench just destroying them. They have no answer for Parker.

Nate Smith
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14 days 16 hours ago

Why not try ZZ?

CLF
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CLF
14 days 16 hours ago

Clarkson nice steal! Sexton terrible TO stepping out of bounds

CLF
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CLF
14 days 16 hours ago

Sexton pull up!!!

Nate Smith
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14 days 16 hours ago

Argh the turnovers! just shoot the open wing three, Cedi!

CLF
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CLF
14 days 16 hours ago

Section what a steal!!!!

CLF
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CLF
14 days 16 hours ago

Sexton

Nate Smith
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14 days 16 hours ago

Dekker with a six point swing on the miss.

CLF
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CLF
14 days 16 hours ago

Nice finish Clarkson!!!

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
14 days 16 hours ago

How many wins by February?

Nate Smith
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14 days 16 hours ago

TT at the elbow is dumb.

Nate Smith
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14 days 16 hours ago

Tt bails out an awful possession with a strong post move.

CLF
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CLF
14 days 16 hours ago

Tt nice finish!

NOMAD
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NOMAD
14 days 16 hours ago

CHECKING OUT SOME OF THE CHARGE —BONZI IS THEIR BEST PLAYER—-PRESTON LOOKS REALLY RAW—HOLLAND IS WHAT HE IS——WOULD SWITCH BONZI / HOLLAND—MAKE BONZI 2 WAY PLAYER / CONTRACT

CLF
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CLF
14 days 16 hours ago

Dekker and tt not rebounding on defense.

Nate Smith
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14 days 16 hours ago

Cavs not rebounding at all on d.

CLF
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CLF
14 days 17 hours ago

Fantastic no look pass by cedi to dekker!!!!

Nate Smith
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14 days 17 hours ago

Rodney hood is useless this game

Nate Smith
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14 days 17 hours ago

.. and then scores! Nice pass cedi to Sam!

Nate Smith
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14 days 17 hours ago

Nice acting job, cedi.

CLF
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CLF
14 days 17 hours ago

Nice pass hood tt with the finish!!!

MikeO
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MikeO
14 days 17 hours ago

FSO just trolling EG with all these Longo interviews…

CLF
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CLF
14 days 17 hours ago

Nice pull up hill!

CLF
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CLF
14 days 17 hours ago

Dekker cedi Korver and jr having nice games!

Nate Smith
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14 days 17 hours ago

Clarkson -12 in 11 minutes.

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