Live Thread: Cavs vs. Nuggets

The Nuggets are in the Q tonight, and you know what that means: one of Cleveland’s favorite sons is back in town. That’s right, Mark Price returns to town as a Nuggets assistant. With Mark in the ranks, is it any wonder that Denver at 6-1 is one of the biggest early season surprises in the NBA.

The Nuggets are coming off a last second overtime win in Chicago last night, so the Cavs do have the schedule makers on their side in this one. Denver won when no one boxed out Paul Millsap and he put back a Jokic miss to put Denver up 107-106.

Denver is potent for sure with Jokic playing like the NBA’s best center with averages of 22/11/7, and Gary Harris averaging 19. The Nuggets are 13th in offense, and a surprising 4th in defense, so getting going early against them will be key.

For Cleveland, expect J.R. Smith to sit out as well as Kevin Love. Denver’s missing Will Barton, Isaiah Thomas, Jarred Vanderbilt, and (of course) Michael Porter Jr.

In other news…

Cleveland has a chance because of the scheduling Gods. Running early and often will be key. Let’s go, Wine and Gold.

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scotch
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scotch
16 days 8 hours ago

btw…Zizic isn’t slow in relation to the other big guys on the team. It’s posture bias. He just needs to learn/know where to be. If he were slower than the other centers he would have the same trouble with the pick n roll…but he doesn’t. He’s a fantastic roller. The slowness impression comes from his running posture being a little hunchback-ish. But I really think it’s just an impression. There’s a reason he destroyed the G-League…and it wasn’t because he’s slow but skilled. Speed isn’t his issue, We just don’t have a defensive identity for him to fit into yet.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
16 days 13 hours ago

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
16 days 11 hours ago

3-40 by around feb1..

JOHN B
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JOHN B
16 days 12 hours ago

Disingenuous on the part of Vardon. I am sure he is well aware the Atlanta game likely had more to do with that. Also this is the best team we have played. They are 7-1 and have beaten the warriors and NO. Their d is much improved and it was legit very good tonight. The cavs weren’t just playing dumb. Denver was all over the place and their rotations were pretty crisp. Even Jokic literally shut down Sexton and Hill on switches. What did people expect?

scotch
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scotch
16 days 12 hours ago

Vardon is an a%$hat. We just shredded the Hawks who had destroyed us previously and we weren’t expected to compete at all this game. We are missing Kevin Love…we’re gonna have to shoot more threes at a higher percentage to compete with the top 40% of the league, and Denver is in the top 10% as of now

MikeO
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MikeO
16 days 52 minutes ago

Maybe. His overall point, that this team is really bad, is hard to refute, though. They beat the Hawks, yes, but the Hawks are one of the worst teams in the league.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
16 days 13 hours ago

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
16 days 13 hours ago

MikeO
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MikeO
16 days 14 hours ago

Giannis is ridic. Just clowns anyone and everyone in the paint one on one.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
16 days 14 hours ago

Any good Euros to start scouting for the 2019 draft?

JOHN B
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JOHN B
16 days 14 hours ago

Surprise team so far. Kings. They are about to be 7-3. Granted they have lost to every good team they have faced. But they have beaten other bad to mediocre teams and occasionally crushed them.

CLF
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CLF
16 days 12 hours ago

Fox is taking a leap, Hield coming into his own, Bagley and Jackson coming off the bench…. there’s talent there.

JOHN B
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JOHN B
16 days 12 hours ago

Don’t forget shump. Actually he is shooting 48% from 3 on 4.2 attempts per game. Haven’t watched them, but Hield looks like he is having himself a year. Bagley apparently has been way better than he looked over the summer/preseason.

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
16 days 14 hours ago

well, i said 20, and probably 30.. 21 it is.. i will continue to keep you folks posted

Chris K
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Chris K
16 days 15 hours ago

I plan to have few gripes as the rebuild will be televised–and sorry if this was said already–but as the team attempts to develop talent, the leader in minutes tonight is… Sam Dekker?!

JOHN B
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JOHN B
16 days 14 hours ago

It is tough without love. Hard to play nance and tt, or either of those guys and zizic together. Maybe they should have gone small more. However, Denver has milsap and Jokic who abuse smalls in the paint.

Chris K
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Chris K
16 days 14 hours ago

Good point. Without seeing the game, I cannot guess the matchups… but Dekker’s low ceiling doesn’t merit extensive floor time now, does it? Go small and pull Millsap out if we can…

JOHN B
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JOHN B
16 days 14 hours ago

No for sure it doesn’t, but Milsap is pretty mobile for a big though. But yeah I might have tried Cedi or Korver at the four. Think we might get abused by Milsap and Jokic on the other end.

JOHN B
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JOHN B
16 days 14 hours ago

Actually their may have been a moment where they did that in garbage time. Not sure was doing dishes at that point

Chris K
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Chris K
16 days 14 hours ago

Forgot to mention, he played 35 minutes… of five more than Cedi, sixteen more than Nance, twenty-five more than Nwaba, and thirty more than Zizic…

JOHN B
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JOHN B
16 days 14 hours ago

Tt definitely probably needs to get his minutes cut. But Jokic and milsap are big dudes so I sort of get why he played a lot. Plus sort of need quickness to deal with their ball movement so zizic might be an issue. Nance should have probably played more. I really do want to see nwaba to get some run just to see I feel something is there.

Chris K
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Chris K
16 days 14 hours ago

I see Nance had four fouls…maybe that was the reason he lost minutes early?

JOHN B
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JOHN B
16 days 14 hours ago

Yeah I think so. At times I was only catching moments of the second q because I was cooking. Think the cavs were definitely frustrated with some officiating. But we got away with a lot of contact in the first two qtrs two. Denver just had a better offense and locked down defensively in that second qtr. That was where the game turned. They continued their d into the third and we may have been a little gassed. Didn’t seem like we were able to scramble as much. But I skipped the last 3 minutes of the third to go live into the fourth. At that point the lead ballooned.

JOHN B
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JOHN B
16 days 14 hours ago

too

CLF
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CLF
16 days 15 hours ago

Well that was fun in the first quarter. Denver’s superior chemistry, ball movement, and defense won out in the end.

JOHN B
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JOHN B
16 days 15 hours ago

Yeah. Always fun to watch them on offense, and knew they had gotten better on d, but they really shut us down and bottled up our ball handlers. They recover well. Seemingly run people of the line (we don’t do ourselves any favors), and Jokic has become a passable defender. Think I counted around three times where he literally shut down a small matched onto him and forced a long contested two or a very tough drive to the bucket.

CLF
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CLF
16 days 15 hours ago

Sexton with the 3!

CLF
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CLF
16 days 15 hours ago

Sexton finish and 1!!!!!

JOHN B
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JOHN B
16 days 15 hours ago

I also think the cavs sort of got gassed in the third and definitely the fourth. We weren’t scrambling quite as much.

CLF
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CLF
16 days 15 hours ago

Nice drive and finish Nwaba

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
16 days 15 hours ago

I forgot Nwaba was on the team

JOHN B
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JOHN B
16 days 15 hours ago

Denver moves the ball so well. They could surprise some people this year. And I don’t mean just making the playoffs, but I think they could win two rounds depending on who they face. Their d sort of smothered us in certain scenarios. Helped the refs held their whistles for contact inside.

CLF
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CLF
16 days 15 hours ago

Nice nice zizic!

JOHN B
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JOHN B
16 days 15 hours ago

Well skipped ahead past the end of the 3rd to about 2 minutes into the fourth. That got out of hand quickly. Denver is good. I think their d is pretty good this year. Their trapping the ball handler on pick and rolls is pretty effective, at least against us. They also seem to recover pretty well. Jokic has moved his feet well on switches tonight covering up their main issue.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
16 days 15 hours ago

I wish I were at the game tonight so I could raise concern over the empty box giveaway with the commissioner

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
16 days 15 hours ago

Where’s Jason? I need to know where we stand with the pick?

CLF
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CLF
16 days 15 hours ago

O man nice pass Sexton but Nance gets stuffed

CLF
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CLF
16 days 15 hours ago

Nice basket at the buzzer for Sexton!

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
16 days 15 hours ago

If the Cavs hire Avery, I may have to take a sibatical from this team.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
16 days 15 hours ago

How much longer do we have on Clarkson’s contract?

John B
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John B
16 days 15 hours ago

Two years I think

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
16 days 15 hours ago

That’s a long prison sentence for us.

John B
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John B
16 days 15 hours ago

Denver’s traps have sort of befuddled our ball handlers

John B
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John B
16 days 15 hours ago

Feel like Denver picked up their d a lot in the second qtr and the Cavs turned it over and struggled to finish and find threes that weren’t nose guarded. Also maybe stopped looking. Jokic has been impressive on staying in front of both Clarkson, hill, and cedi on switches.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
16 days 15 hours ago

How are they giving him that continuation

CLF
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CLF
16 days 15 hours ago

Hernangomez has murdered the Cavs tonight

John B
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John B
16 days 15 hours ago

Cedi a bit out of control on forays to the hoop. Likely looking for fouls which haven’t been called. Has had some bad tovs.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
16 days 15 hours ago

Hate to give up on a guy so early, but I have generally not been very impressed with Sexton. He’s a rookie, that works hard, so I expect him to get better, but I kind of wish he did something really well.

John B
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John B
16 days 15 hours ago

Refs really letting them play tonight. Almost seems like playoff reffing down low. Lots of contact on both sides. Seems like the players have gotten a bit frustrated.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
16 days 15 hours ago

With the # of Plumlee’s out there, are they an official race?

CLF
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CLF
16 days 15 hours ago

Denver justmoves the ball better… Better chemistry.

CLF
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CLF
16 days 15 hours ago

Sexton to tt to Nance!

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
16 days 15 hours ago

Would be nice if we guarded the perimeter

CLF
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CLF
16 days 15 hours ago

Cavs finally running plays for hood to his left… Draws the foul

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
16 days 15 hours ago

JR coaching up Cedi. Longo comes in, both JR and Cedi ignore him and go back to discussion

CLF
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CLF
16 days 15 hours ago

Cedi with and 1!!!

CLF
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CLF
16 days 15 hours ago

Hood finally taking a shot on the left side… Drains it. Nice finish dekker!

CLF
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CLF
16 days 15 hours ago

Great pass hood to tt!!!

CLF
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CLF
16 days 16 hours ago

Nice cut and finish cedi!

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
16 days 16 hours ago

Joker carried the ball

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
16 days 16 hours ago

Nice sequence with TT and Cedi

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
16 days 16 hours ago

Can’t let them get
3 offensive rebounds in a row

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
16 days 16 hours ago

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
16 days 16 hours ago

Great first quarter! Seeing the comments below, it sounds like we should have ended the game after that quarter.

CLF
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CLF
16 days 16 hours ago

Nance with the finish before the buzzer!!!!

JoeyB
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JoeyB
16 days 16 hours ago

Wow. 22 point swing this quarter.

CLF
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CLF
16 days 16 hours ago

Better ball movement on that last possession

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
16 days 16 hours ago

I’m a little late to the action tonight (about 30 minutes behind).

JoeyB
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JoeyB
16 days 16 hours ago

Told you we should have traded Rodney Hood after last game. Now we have to wait for six more.

Ten ThOsman Maniacs
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Ten ThOsman Maniacs
16 days 16 hours ago

Cedi and Sexton have been absolutely horrible

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
16 days 16 hours ago

just looked at the score.. if they can avoid a blowout, i will be impressed.. seems like they just might be able to do that, which is a step forward..

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
16 days 16 hours ago

drew should be given the keys, and told its his to lose.. what is big dan waiting for, another “savior figure”? the guy is competent.. and is in place.. let him run

JOHN B
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JOHN B
16 days 15 hours ago

I am coming around to it. I am sort of obsessed with getting Messina, but I think he will have his pick of jobs come June. Maybe in Minny, maybe LA. Who knows, maybe pop even retires. At which point he will have the coaching job in the most stable, compentent, and maybe best ownership/FO in the league.

CLF
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CLF
16 days 16 hours ago

Great defense hood!!!

JoeyB
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JoeyB
16 days 16 hours ago

That time out was about five minutes too late.

CLF
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CLF
16 days 16 hours ago

He already burned one 6 minutes ago.

JoeyB
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JoeyB
16 days 16 hours ago

With a young team, you’re better off correcting things early and suffering the loss of timeouts late.

CLF
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CLF
16 days 16 hours ago

What a finish hill!!!

CLF
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CLF
16 days 16 hours ago

Tt had no feel to finish… Bad turnover cedi.

CLF
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CLF
16 days 16 hours ago

Nice pass Clarkson…. And nice hustle again!!!!! And 1

CLF
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CLF
16 days 16 hours ago

Nice hustle Clarkson

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