Recap: Cavs 136, Hawks 114 (or, The Voice of Victory)

Larry Drew is not the head coach of the Cleveland Cavaliers. He is not even technically the interim coach. He is, however, the self-proclaimed “voice” of the Cavs. Regardless of what you call him… it’s hard to argue with the results, as the wine & gold were winners for the first time in seven tries this season. What was different? You mean, other than no Tyronn Lue on the sidelines?

Well… nearly everything.

These Cavs played with energy. These Cavs played with a sense of urgency. These Cavs looked like they didn’t want to be winless any longer. These Cavs refused to be embarrassed on their home court for a second time in a week by a team that should be below them in the standings. They started strong, they finished strong. And, even when some of their poorer habits reared up to threaten their chances for victory, they did what they had been unable to do in their previous six games… they made adjustments. This particular development simply cannot be understated. They. Made. Adjustments. At halftime.

Don’t believe me? Just ask Trae Young, the rookie who torched the Cavs in their home opener for 35 points…

“Tale of two halves,” Young said. “Started out the game, matched their effort, matched their intensity. We had a really good first half and then they made adjustments. We weren’t ready to play and couldn’t finish it out.”

There’s that word again… adjustments. How many times has that terminology been merely lip service by whichever assistant coach drew the short straw in the end of halftime interview? How many times has Larry Drew had to voice the hollow words himself… knowing full well that the Cavs would likely already be bleeding points before he finished speaking with the team’s new sideline reporter, Angel Gray?

On this night, since The Voice was busy exhorting his troops and implementing his adjustments, the task fell to the un-killable cockroach of Cleveland, Mike Longabardi. This made me inevitably queasy as it was happening, and almost distracted me from the 14-3 burst the Cavs used to instantly put distance between them and the floundering Hawks. Yes, the roles were reversed. Usually, the opposing team would be the aggressor in the third quarter, exploiting the weaknesses they uncovered in the first half and forcing former coach Lue into a quick rage timeout. It was obvious the tables had turned.

Now, I can assure you that I’m not going to get too carried away here. After all, these are the Atlanta Hawks. They are already starting their rookie point guard. They are making no secret that tanking is their chosen path. They don’t really take care of the ball, they make horrific mistakes and their defense is just a vicious rumor. Still, they are capable of launching barrages of threes (they made a franchise record 22 in the first game against the Cavs), and can make teams look silly for ignoring their shooters. This time, though, the Cavaliers did not fall for their tricks. They helped. They recovered. They doubled. They played the passing lanes. They took the ball away from the Hawks… and they fast broke their way to an 18 point lead in what has typically been their worst quarter all year.

Each quarter had a signature that spoke volumes about the difference between this Cavs team and the team they had been for the first six games of the season.

George Hill got off to a fast start in the first, scoring eight quick points before picking up back-to-back fouls and giving way to Collin Sexton. But, it was really Rodney Hood who set the tone for the quarter and the game with this unexpected jam…

Rodney followed that up with a sweet looking three, riding high on his new found confidence, to push the lead out to double digits at 17-7. Once Jordan Clarkson and David Nwaba checked in to join Sexton on the perimeter, Atlanta began to shoot themselves back into it with guys like Omari Spellman, Kevin Huerter and DeAndre Bembry bombing threes. But, the Cavs stayed ahead of the Hawks by working their inside out game and getting to the line.

The second quarter had the look of potential disaster, as Trae Young began to channel his inner Steph with 30 foot YOLO threes, and Old Man Vince Carter showed why he’s still in the league 21 years later. Fortunately, George Hill stayed hot, and Larry Nance Jr. did his best to keep the ball moving with some big man assists. Crisis somewhat averted… at least until Alex Len started to abuse Tristan Thompson. Len’s dunk with a minute remaining in the half gave the Hawks a four point lead, and punctuated a series of poor offensive sequences for the Cavs that ended in dreaded mid-range pull up shots. At that point, something snapped inside Tristan. Following a Cedi Osman miss on a driving layup, TT efforted this dynamite board over Len’s head…

Canadian Dynamite got the put back… and the harm… and converted the working man’s three point play. Then, he stole a bad pass from Kent Bazemore (TT had four on the night!) and got the assist on a dime to a streaking Sexton for a run out dunk to end the scoring for the half. The Cavs had their first halftime lead of the season at 58-57.

Despite what I wrote earlier, the second half didn’t initially look like it was going to get off to a good start. The first play wound up being Thompson dribbling into an 18-footer that missed badly and turned into an Atlanta fast break for a Len layup. But, the Cavs countered with long threes from both Rodney and Cedi. Yet, the difference making sequence in this quarter were the back-to-back steals the Cavs made on consecutive bad passes by Taurean Prince, which turned into run out dunks in transition to put the Cavs up by 12.

Trae Young did what he could to try and shoot the Hawks back into it, but the Cavs kept attacking the rim, getting to the line and watching Hood’s confidence grow as he knocked down shot after shot. The Cavs fell just shy of the century mark with a 41 point quarter, and led 99-87 after three.

Young and Len tried to cut into that lead to start the fourth, shaving it down to eight with just under 10 minutes to go. However, Jordan Clarkson, Collin Sexton and Cedi Osman came alive with their own three point barrage to bury any hope the Hawks had of a comeback. This terrific ball movement led to the Clarkson three that pushed the lead back to double digits for good…

The Cavs poured it on from there, sticking it to the Hawks and going up by as much as 27 before Atlanta hit a couple of garbage time threes. In the end, they completely avenged their opening night debacle, out-scoring Atlanta 78-57 in the second half.

The Evil

Since this was the Cavs’ first win of the season, I won’t dwell too much on the negatives. Yes, some of the old bugaboos still cropped up from time to time (mid range shots off the dribble, driving into traffic, not taking care of the ball, porous perimeter defense…), but the levels of effort, trust and communication were most certainly elevated.

Now, to keep things in perspective… this is still a really bad Hawks team. They were also playing on the second night of a back-to-back on the road. None of this is meant to undermine the improved play of the Cavs tonight… but, let’s not pretend they just knocked off a playoff team on the road. Granted, the Cavs were missing their All Star Forward, Kevin Love… but still.

Despite the lopsided margin of victory, the Cavs still allowed the Hawks to shoot a blistering 54% from the field and 43% from downtown. They did limit Atlanta to fewer makes and attempts from beyond the arc than last time out (15-35), but on most nights those kinds of numbers will get you beat. Young and Len were a combined 18-22 for 46 points… they just couldn’t get a third player going to keep up with the Cavs.

The Hawks also turned the ball over 23 times. Many of these were due to the activity of the Cavs, but there were tons of dumb mistakes, especially in the pivotal third quarter. Atlanta also played some abjectly terrible defense in the second half. They’re a bad team at defending, likely made worse by tired legs.

Outside of the game, the potential stalemate between the Cavs and The Voice (Larry Drew), over whether or not he’s going to get compensation for officially becoming the interim head coach is threatening to become the next chapter in front office ineptitude. Clearly, (despite him having an unfortunate rhyming similarity to recently deposed head coaches in Cleveland) Drew seems to know how to fundamentally inspire his players. It’s no secret that he’s now 10-1 in games he’s coached in Ty Lue’s stead over the past two seasons. LD is an experienced coach who deserves a quick decision one way or the other.

Another off the court problem is also brewing with J.R. Smith being told for the second time in seven games that he is out of the rotation. Word was that Smith might look to take some time away from the team, and he sat on the bench with his hood over his head for the duration of this one.

The Genius

The Gator had some bite tonight. Rodney Hood had quite possibly his best game as a Cavalier with 26 points on 9-13 from the field, and made all four of his threes. His dunk in the first quarter set the tone for the game and seemed to bring him out of his shooting shell as well. He managed three assists and three steals, and even had an uncredited block with his tiny arms, while registering an other-worldly +38 for the game. This is the Rodney Hood the Cavs thought they were getting from Utah last year. We can only hope there are more nights like this to come.

The Jedi didn’t force it. Things didn’t start out great for Cedi, but he kept trending upward as the game progressed. His dimes got crisper, his threes started looking pure, and his dervish started whirling. He finished with 20 points on 5-11 shots (3-5 from three), with five boards, three assists and a steal. Though he turned it over five times, most of those were early in the game.

The Dynamite exploded just in time. Tristan looked bad for much of the first half. He was missing shots and getting abused by Alex Len. Then, just when the Cavs needed a spark, TT showed up big at the end of the first half. He also helped blow the game open in the third, and notched a double double with 11 points and 13 boards to go with four steals and three assists.

The Hill was taken. The Cavs are always better when George Hill is aggressive, and aggressive he was. Hill poured in eight points before getting stuck on the bench with two quick fouls. But, he stayed hot when he returned, tallying 17 points on a highly efficient 6-8 shooting (2-2 from deep). He had two rebounds, three assists, and a steal while playing some solid defense on Trae Young in his 20 minutes.

The Wrecker wrecked it. Sam Dekker filled in admirably for Kevin Love with one of his better games in a Cavs uniform. He was 4-6 from the field and perfect on both of his triples. Added to that were nine boards, four assists, three steals and several run out dunks. If he can be reliable on those corner threes, he should add some much needed spacing to the starting lineup.

The Young Bull rumbled. Collin Sexton had a much better night offensively than defensively, as he bulled his way to the line nine times (making eight). He also impressively snagged eight boards, to go with three dimes and a block. He did turn it over a few times, and still needs to work on his perimeter lock and trail technique.

Larry Nance and Jordan Clarkson had okay nights. Each excelled at what they do best (Clarkson scored 15 on 15 shots, and Nance had three excellent big man assists), but neither fared particularly well defensively. Clarkson in particular looked downright lost on several transitional sets in the first half.

La Flama Blanca didn’t shine much in his 15 minutes, but he did manage to score his 11,000th point. The rumor on the street is that he may be back on the trading block, so enjoy Kyle Korver while you still can in a Cavs uniform.

The Cavs had seven guys in double digits, out-rebounded the Hawks 48-39 and hit that magical number 23 on the night for assists.

Parting Shot

I didn’t include Larry Drew in the Genius section, because he deserves his own voice to close things out. Yes, it was the Hawks. Yes, the Cavs still gave up a lot of threes. But, anyone who watched this game could tell that there was a fundamental difference in how it was coached on the Cleveland sideline. Larry Drew is a straight-forward coach. He knows what he’s about. He knows what he’s doing. He knows how to put his players in a position to succeed. He may not be the kind of head coach who can lead a team to championships, but he’s at the very minimum a coach who knows how to adjust to counter what the opponent is trying to do on a given night.

He was also straight-forward in his comments during the post game press conference. He was self-effacing in admitting he hadn’t quite figured out the rotations yet, and he voiced opinions that made sense. He was in the moment without needing to watch the tape to dissect what happened in the game he just coached.

At the very least, Drew deserves to be dealt with in a straight-forward manner by Cavs management. It remains to be seen if they think he’s the right head coach for the team long term… but, at least in the interim… he seems to be the right voice.

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Arch Stanton
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17 days 13 minutes ago

Barf:

JRL
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JRL
16 days 23 hours ago

This will be disastrous.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
17 days 16 minutes ago

I found THE VOICE of the Cavs:

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
17 days 19 minutes ago

NickNevers
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17 days 43 minutes ago

But I thought JR liked being a mentor to the young guys?! It’s probably time to move on anyways. I still love JR, but I don’t think he’s got much left.

Arch Stanton
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17 days 1 hour ago

I also wonder if this will prompt the two sides to work on a buyout?

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
17 days 1 hour ago

I have no problem with J.R. demanding a trade.

Arch Stanton
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17 days 1 hour ago

MikeO
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17 days 1 hour ago

Magic, here’s the shooter and veteran presence Lebron needs for the playoff run.

Arch Stanton
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17 days 1 hour ago

Arch Stanton
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17 days 1 hour ago

NOMAD
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17 days 1 hour ago

ARCH—HELL NO–LONGO HAS TO GO :)

JMay
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17 days 2 hours ago

Was listening to Zach Lowe Podcast and he mentioned that Longabardi loses sleep over bad defense… That guy must be the most sleep deprived person on the planet. No wonder he can’t put together a good one.

JRL
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JRL
17 days 1 hour ago

LoL 🤣

NOMAD
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17 days 2 hours ago

YEAH —STAYING POSITIVE—-ALL IN FOR “THE VOICE ” STAYING UNDEFEATED —GO CAVS —–SEE WHERE DREW GOT AN ENDORSEMENT FROM KLOVVE TO BE THE HC—SEE IF THAT CARRIES ANY WEIGHT

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
17 days 2 hours ago

If Drew becomes the HC, does that mean Longobardi is THE VOICE?

Arch Stanton
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17 days 3 hours ago

Will THE VOICE be 2-0 after tonight?

Raoul
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17 days 2 hours ago

Sure!!!

NOMAD
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17 days 3 hours ago

SEE WHERE THE LAKERS ARE “WATCHING ” LA-BRON’S MIN’S —ONLY PLAYED 39—MIGHT BE WRONG –BUT EVENTUALLY THOSE MIN’S WILL CATCH UP TO LA-BRON –( GRANTED HE IS A RARE SPECIMEN )—-WONDER HOW LONG RONDO IS GOING TO ACCEPT COMING OFF THE BENCH AND I SEE BEASELY IS A DNP EVERY GAME —ATTITUDES WILL SURFACE EVENTUALLY

Jason
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17 days 4 hours ago

Chance for a W tonight. Nuggets are good, but not as deep as last year, especially with Barton hurt and on 2nd night of b2b with Barton out.

Jokic is a joy. We should watch how they use him & replicate some of it with Love.

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Boogieeels
17 days 8 hours ago

Wow. D Rose had the BEST Halloween costume of all last night: a former NBA MVP! He even wore a funny wig.

JOHN B
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17 days 10 hours ago

That’s all me below as anonymous btw. Cleared my cache and forgot to put in my name. Gotta counter some negativity with some more sort of not exactly positivity. We have had some consistently decent to great production from some players in the last six years. Joe (jitters) Harris and Derrick Rose were not among those that were anywhere near decent nba production.

JRL
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17 days 7 hours ago

I don’t think Rose was awful for us last season. I would have liked him on the court better than JR and Clarkson during the finals.

John B
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16 days 20 hours ago

I think he was. Part of it was the mid-range combo. Defensively he was a mess, but so was everyone else. I will say he had an almost impossibly bad -7.7 BPM. BPM and RPM aren’t perfect, but on the extreme ends I think you can say a guy was pretty good or pretty bad.

John B
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16 days 20 hours ago

combo of him and Wade.

Jason
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17 days 4 hours ago

He and Wade would have helped in the Finals. Clarkson/Hood and Korver had nothing.

Raoul
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17 days 2 hours ago

Other than the fact they would have been causing trouble by bad rapping Love behind his back, and who knows what else.

Scotch
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17 days 11 hours ago

We definitely have a shot to get another win tomorrow. The nuggets are solid but they will also be on the 2nd night of a b2b after a tough win over a horrendous bulls team and traveling tonight.

If we shoot well from 3 and keep clarkson’s minutes to a minimum I wouldnt be surprised if the result is similar to the Hawks game. And if that does happen…LD will probably get his contract soon.

CLF
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17 days 12 hours ago

Dončić redeemed himself a little bit with great defense on LeBron and some clutch shooting. Impressed he kept his head in the game.

Jason
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17 days 4 hours ago

Yep. Bron is his idol & I think he was too nervous/excited early. Made his last 5 shots including the late J to tie it.

He just has “it.” I cannot say what “it” is, precisely. But I know “it” when I see “it” and Doncic has “it.”

CLF
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17 days 12 hours ago

Wow… Dallas ties the game then commits dumb foul. LeBron misses ft!!!! Lmao

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17 days 12 hours ago

back to reality i fear against the nuggets.. they go to 7-1.. we go to 1-7.. we lose by at least 20, and probably 30

Anonymous
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17 days 12 hours ago

Hey they beat a team last night by 25 some points they should have beaten or at least been competitive with the first time, so that is a huge turnaround. They weren’t completely out coached in the second half. Progress. We still make Young look like an all star despite him being mediocre to downright terrible against every other team he has played, but baby steps. We do have a way of making players that are terrible in a given season look like all stars though.

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buck turgidson
17 days 12 hours ago

joe harris with 23 pts in win against detroit.. figures, again

Anonymous
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17 days 12 hours ago

He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with us at age 23, even when he had 5 seconds to shoot. Glad to see at age 27 at the peak of his prime he has turned it around.

Simmo
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17 days 3 hours ago

I’d like to think the Charge were instrumental in the making of this increasingly effective player.

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
17 days 12 hours ago

one of our former “scrub guards” just put up 50 pts.. figures..

Anonymous
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17 days 12 hours ago

And yet he was awful for Minny last year….according to wolves blogs. Mo Williams put up 50 in Portland. Terrence Ross put up 50. Brandon Jennings put up 55 when he was a rookie and legit bad. Welcome to the overreaction club. Glad for rose, but doubt most people in Minny think he is a plus for the season other than Thibs.

CLF
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CLF
17 days 12 hours ago

Lakers suck, they can’t put away a bad Dallas team.

MikeO
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17 days 9 hours ago

I think they are more or less equivalent to the Cavs post trade last year, i.e., not very good. I’m one who is not high on their role player scrubs, though. Some in the media think those guys are amazing for some reason.

CLF
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17 days 12 hours ago

Mikal bridges and Carter III having good games tonight.

CLF
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CLF
17 days 13 hours ago

Dončić looking awful tonight. Definitely having a rookie game.

Arch Stanton
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17 days 13 hours ago

Arch Stanton
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17 days 13 hours ago

Nate Smith
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17 days 14 hours ago

Indy is so good. I’d love to have so many of their guys. Sabonis is like the anti-thompson with his ability to finish.

MikeO
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17 days 13 hours ago

Sabonis is TT if TT was actually skilled.

CLF
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CLF
17 days 14 hours ago

Sabonis is only 22 as well… also it seems like he’ll age well.

Arch Stanton
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17 days 15 hours ago

CLF
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17 days 15 hours ago

JRL
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JRL
17 days 14 hours ago

Wow, good for him. I always liked his game.

CLF
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CLF
17 days 14 hours ago

Put up a 50 spot tonight on 19-31 shooting…

Jason
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17 days 14 hours ago

Good for Rose. Glad to see something go his way.

CLF
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CLF
17 days 13 hours ago

Yup… He even got emotional right after the game. Beautiful moment.

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
17 days 12 hours ago

who did we replace him with? hood?.. clarkson?

Anonymous
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17 days 12 hours ago

He was awful for us. Literally one of the worst players on the court. That is saying something. Bad for minny

Nate Smith
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17 days 15 hours ago

The fact that ESPN employs Jalen Rose to talk about anything still astounds me.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
17 days 15 hours ago

He’s the worst!

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17 days 16 hours ago

With LeBron leaving i thought, and was looking forward to a season of basketball without the drama. Geez, I think Gilbert might be like a battered wife who just can’t live without the chaos. Who fires a coach, an NBA champion coach, six games into the season? Move on this summer, sure. Get halfway through the season, evaluate where the young talent is headed and decide you need a new plan, absolutely. Fire your coach and not have a replacement or even an agreement with the assistant coach to take the reigns ? It must be unprecedented. I can only picture DG, Koby, and the entire management staff all getting into a little car. Clown show.

Raoul
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17 days 13 hours ago

Wcc: Who fires Lue? You want to keep a clueless coach?

Simmo
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17 days 3 hours ago

I think on that matter, WCC raises the matter of timing, which is rather important.

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17 days 1 hour ago

I think the timing had to do with the fact that Lue had from July 1st to November 1st to develop an offensive and defensive system with our current personnel. He couldn’t get it done.

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John B
17 days 14 hours ago

It is strange, but can’t argue with the results so far. One game in and we look better. Likely won’t last, but it was the most complete game they put together yet.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
17 days 15 hours ago

Yeah there’s always drama with this team. Even when LeBron wasn’t here we had issues… Kyrie and Dion fight, Andrew Bynum hijacking practice by continuously jacking up 3s,
losing to the Lakers when they had 4 players on the court which prompted Dan to fire CG, losing 27 straight games, the Comic Sans letter, Bynum allegedly sleeping with one of the coaches girlfriends or wives…

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17 days 16 hours ago

JRL
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17 days 17 hours ago

Man, Tom Thibodeau must be a great bs’er cause he somehow managed to get not only a head coaching job but also president of basketball operations. Amazing.

John B
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John B
17 days 14 hours ago

It is truly insane. Not seen I have ever seen a situation so botched on so many levels. They may have done irreparable damage to the organization’s relationship with KAT thru the handling of Butler. Wouldn’t be surprised if KAT wants out sooner rather than later.

John B
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17 days 14 hours ago

Not sure

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17 days 19 hours ago

I get Drew’s reticence. He knows that if he doesn’t get a longer term deal he will likely be out. Unlike a lot of other assistants, this may be his last chance to be head coach again. I also think he may realize he is the cavs only option for turning it around right now. He has leverage. Unfortunately, by giving him the job on a non-interim basis we could miss out on the next great one. However, not sure how attractive the cavs would be to the up and comers that will have their pick of jobs at the end of the season.

I am hoping they come to an agreement. Longibardi could be a disaster. Maybe just hiring Drew is the best bet. We won’t be ready to contend for some time. Drew could be a good bridge between now and then. At minimally he is solid. Maybe not spectacular, but he is solid.

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17 days 19 hours ago

Thanks for the recap EG!!! Last night was enjoyable to watch…. I wasn’t a fan of Drew’s work in ATL(?) awhile back, but the guys played hard for him last night. Good for him.

CLF
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17 days 19 hours ago

^^^^ THis was my post… not sure why it came up as Anon

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17 days 22 hours ago

SO WILL IT BE MORE DIFFICULT TO MOVE A DISGRUNTLED SWISH——MIGHT JUST HAVE TO “CUT THE CORD “–BE DONE —–BUT YES THANK YOU FOR SOME VERY PRODUCTIVE / ENTERTAINING YEARS —–SWISH WOULD FIT RIGHT IN WITH “THE CAST OF CHARACTERS ” KNOWN AS THE LAKERS —-“THE CHARACTER LAKERS “

Nate Smith
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17 days 20 hours ago

Come on, man. Give the guy the benefit of the doubt.

Scotch
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17 days 21 hours ago

I dont think he is as disgruntled as he is being portrayed. He wants to play, but he also said before the season he likes being a mentor to sexton and Clarkson.

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17 days 22 hours ago

MIKEO DONT’ TELL EVIL THAT LONGO IS BETTER THAN PITINO——HE MIGHT BARF HIMSELF TO DEATH :)—–ARCH THAT IS GREAT !!

Arch Stanton
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17 days 22 hours ago

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17 days 22 hours ago

MikeO
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17 days 22 hours ago

Color me completely unsurprised that JR will likely raise a stinkthis season…I think he’s mostly washed, and was mostly washed last year. He certainly brought some great games for the Cavs, but it’s time to sit back, JR…

NOMAD
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18 days 38 minutes ago

YEAH SAW THAT TOO –(AVERY JOHSON )–IS THAT FOR YOUNG BULL

Nate Smith
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17 days 20 hours ago

Jesus. Avery Johnson was freaking awful.

Joshua Martin
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17 days 22 hours ago

Probably part of it, but I wouldn’t hate the hire. Way better option than Patino…

MikeO
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MikeO
17 days 22 hours ago

To be clear, ANY option is better than Patino…Longo is a better option.

MikeO
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MikeO
17 days 21 hours ago

Having said that, I fully expect Patino to be Gilbert’s #1 choice…

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
18 days 1 hour ago

Apparently Windy just said to keep an eye on Avery Johnson as HC. Barf! I’d rather just keep THE VOICE!

MikeO
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17 days 22 hours ago

Whoever it is, I’m sure it will be a ‘name’….which ain’t good when it comes to Gilbert…

JOHN B
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JOHN B
17 days 19 hours ago

He went with Blatt, which was unforeseen bad timing. That was maybe a slightly unconventional choice. Messina is a name and is currently, coaching for the best head coach factory there has ever been. Also he has years of head coach experience. I could maybe see Gilbert being intrigued. Not sure if he will have the patience to wait for June though.

JRL
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JRL
18 days 54 minutes ago

Oh my…

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
18 days 1 hour ago

I haven’t watched the game yet. I took my daughter trick or treating. But I have it saved in my HULU browser, so I’ll check it out later today.

NOMAD
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18 days 2 hours ago

WILL DO JRL—–WATCHED SOME OF CEDI’S HIGHLIGHTS—HIS SHOT HAS IMPROVED ALOT—DID NOTICE HE STILL HAS A “LITTLE JERKINESS-HESITATION ” TOWARDS THE TOP / EXTENSION OF HIS SHOT—-SHOULD BE SMOOTH ALL THE WAY THRU—MAN IF HE CAN JUST TWEAK THAT A LITTLE–COULD BECOME A ‘KORVER ” TYPE OF SHOOTER

JRL
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18 days 2 hours ago

I’m throwing this out there and please mods delete if needed, but I wrote a short script (7 pages) and an opening scene of another (3 pages) and would really appreciate some feedback.

I see the group of commenters here as well spoken and intelligent and would like to see what you guys think of my writing. Unfortunately when asking friends/family they all say it’s good but I’m sure that’s to not hurt my feelings.

So feelings be damned LoL 🤣

Please email me at jleon1980@yahoo.com if interested. I’ll send you the PDF file.

Thanks a million!!!

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18 days 2 hours ago

YEAH THANKS JRL—-WILL TRY—-ALSO TOTALLY IN AGREEMENT WITH JASON—3 VERY ACCURATE / INTELLIGENT POINTS / OPTIONS FO THE CAVS

Simmo
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18 days 2 hours ago

Thanks EG. I’m not a Leaguepass subscriber this season, so games are hard to catch from Down Under. A good recap is just as valuable.

Drew deserves a quick decision because he makes quick decisions.

Nate Smith
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18 days 1 hour ago

We’re also trying to put up highlight packages of every game. Also, youtube often has condensed game feeds.

JRL
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18 days 2 hours ago

Check “Reddit NBA Streams” and look for links provided by “Buffstreams”. That’s how I watch the games since I haven’t had cable in over 4 years.

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Simmo
18 days 2 hours ago

Thanks JRL! Have checked out Reddit for MLB, NFL & NBA streams over the years, haven’t found anything reliable. Will give it a go.

JMay
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18 days 1 hour ago

The streams over the past year alone have seen some real improvement. I think you’ll have good luck if you try again.

JRL
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JRL
18 days 2 hours ago

Yeah whoever “Buffstreams” is, has been my go to link for the last two seasons. So far this one its been great too.

The link will have one ad overlay which will popup when you “X” the ad. Close the popup and watch the game 😎

Jason
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Jason
18 days 2 hours ago

Dear Dan & Koby:

You have not gotten much right over the past year plus. So, some help:

1) Pay Larry Drew like a Head Coach for the remainder of the year. Tell him it is an audition for the job long term. Cannot commit long-term now.

2) Do not rush trades for our vets. Korver, Hill, JR, anf TT can still play some, help our youngsters, and may be more valuable to a desperate PO team/contender later on. Plus, they will all look better with a competent coach & increase their value.

3) Careful with the JR thing. I get why he is not playing, but he still has a role and can help some nights.

JOHN B
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JOHN B
17 days 19 hours ago

1 is SOP in the nba, but Drew seems like he is not ok with that. Complicates things unfortunately. If Drew managed to turn this team around and won 38-45 games, that would be enough to give him the job permanently I think. I still would love to get Messina, but I think he will have his pick of the jobs that will inevitably be open at the end of the season. So it may not be realistic.

Agree on everything else.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
18 days 1 hour ago

Plus 1

JMay
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18 days 1 hour ago

Last I heard the disagreement was that Drew wanted a multi-year deal and the Cavs wouldn’t give him one. Has that changed?

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
18 days 1 hour ago

Pay him for a 2 year deal, and they can add him to the growing list of fired coaches they are still paying.

worldbfree
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worldbfree
18 days 2 hours ago

+1

And let’s get real — if you were Hammon and Messina, would you want to work for this owner? Dance with the one who brung ya (to 10-1) and stop reacting to every development like a headless chicken.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
18 days 1 hour ago

Yep… I was listening to Jason Lloyd on 92.3, and he suggested that it could be a problem for Dan, when hiring coaches. It was in 2014, after he fired Mike Brown twice, and is ultimately why he flew halfway around the world to talk with Blatt.

JRL
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JRL
18 days 2 hours ago

That’s something we need to consider. Would a legit up and coming HC want to come here? Hmm…

NOMAD
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NOMAD
18 days 3 hours ago

ALSO WITH KLOVE OUT—–IN THE FLOW OF THE GAME –THINK HOOD NEEDS TO LOOK FOR 15–17 SHOTS / GAME —ESPECIALLY IF HE IS IN A GROOVE

Simmo
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Simmo
18 days 2 hours ago

I sure did enjoy him moving in for the opportunistic dunk. Question for all – did this happen last year? If not, it’s a great sign for his confidence.

JRL
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JRL
18 days 1 hour ago

Was it game 2 or 3 of the finals that he stepped up and played good? That was the only time I remember.

NOMAD
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NOMAD
18 days 3 hours ago

ADD TO THAT “REFRESHING “—DREW’—THE VOICE ” POST GAME CONFERENCE —-SO MUCH MORE PROFESSIONAL// INFORMATIVE —DID NOT MISS HEARING –” HAVE TO WATCH THE FILM ” AT ALL !!!!—GO CAVS !

Christopher
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Christopher
17 days 15 hours ago

Drew actually said determining rotations was a major goal of his… so refreshing to hear this admitted. We harped on Lue never having a really good feel for this. It was LABron and four other guys. Now, if Drew can figure this out, he already will demonstrate more coaching acumen than his predecessor…

JRL
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JRL
18 days 2 hours ago

Lue, wether to get away from the conferences asap or not, was a total blackhole when it came to post game analysis. His “Gotta watch tape” line got old rather quickly and then became extremely annoying. Sorry to say but he doesn’t seem like a smart person at all.

Joshua Martin
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17 days 22 hours ago

Zach Lowe mentioned on his pod yesterday but Lue hated media obligations when they were talking about the possibility of him joining The Jump, I wonder if that is part of the reason for his lackluster performances postgame…

NOMAD
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NOMAD
18 days 4 hours ago

REFRESHING IS THE WORD—–REFRESHING RECAP- (POSITIVE )—-REFRESHING / ENERGIZED TEAM PLAY—-BUT HEY LIKE EVIL REMINDED US –IT WAS ONLY 1 GAME AGAINST THE HAWKS ( BACK / BACK )——–REASON I DON’T GET CARRIED AWAY WITH LONG TERM CONTRACT WITH “THE VOICE “—PAY HIM HEAD COACHES PAY –REMAINDER OF THIS SEASON / REVIEW / EVALUATE / MAKE A DECISION–OFF SEASON —-IF “SWISH ” WANTS TO CRY –LET HIM—-IF HE WANTS OFF THE TEAM / LEAVE OF ABSENCE –FINE—BRING SOME YOUNG PLAYERS IN ——IF RIGHT DEAL COMES UP FOR KORVER–TAKE IT –FOR HIS SAKE / HE DESERVES IT AND HOPEFULLY THE RIGHT TRADE WOULD BENIFIT CAVS ALSO —-ALSO IF T.T.’S STOCK RISES SOME —TAKE THE RIGHT DEAL !!!

Leo
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Leo
18 days 4 hours ago

Coach Drew undefeated….lets see how rest plays out against more competitive competition down the road. Good start. Following some quick highlights I bet if Lue was still coach this would’ve ended up the opposite result.

JR is dead weight now and Korver is just too old to matter anymore as a one dimensional player. If Cavs choose to move one or both, then thats fine, just move forward with the youth and development.

GO CAVS!!

JRL
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JRL
18 days 4 hours ago

Great recap!

Coach Drew should get a few extra millions just for getting an opposing team/player to say that the halftime changes by the Cavs were the reason for the win.

I’m okay with Dan paying up for this season and letting Drew/team know it will be revisited come off-season. At that point, Drew would have had a full season to show progress or not.

Like I said on the live thread, the team needed this win before it got insanely ugly and demoralizing. JR seems to be an issue but other than that, I hope the ship rights itself and the team beats the opponents they should on paper.

worldbfree
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worldbfree
18 days 3 hours ago
I will never cease to be amazed at Gilbert’s ability to mess things up. What am I missing about Larry Drew that makes everyone else so underwhelmed by him? He’s a grounded, stabilizing presence, comes off as intelligent, humble and thoughtful in interviews, inspires confidence in his players, ALREADY KNOWS THE MASSIVE DYSFUNCTION of the (dis)organization he’s working for, and is friggin’ 10-1 coaching a team that has either not cared about the regular season (last year) or seemed able to compete in it (the terrifying present). In short, he’s one of the few sources of positive energy in this entire circus… and DG is going to alienate him over giving him a few million dollars and a 2-year contract? It’s like Griffin in miniature all over again. Someone actually appears to be the grownup in the room and Mr. Subprime Loans Casino Conman gets threatened and reverts to his bratty rich-kid comic sans teenager self to cut him off at the knees. OIC. And speaking of grownups in the room, why in the world wouldn’t you keep Korver to mentor the youngsters until the trade deadline? A class act who actually takes pride in sharing his knowledge with the… Read more »
don\'ttraderonharper
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don\'ttraderonharper
18 days 2 hours ago

Really well put.

What magical next-gen paradigm disrupter is going to come in here *right now* and do anything more with this group than Drew? Maybe down the road–maybe. Why don’t we just try little stability for a change, develop the talent that we have (didn’t Hood and Cedi both look more confident already?), and get over that seasick feeling that each game has brought. Then we can try for infinity and beyond.

JRL
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JRL
18 days 2 hours ago

My problem with Drew is solely based on my distaste for “been around too long” coaches who may not yet understand how the game is changing into a 3pt contest wether we like it or not.

I think Drew is a good coach and if I’m being honest with myself, I won’t be upset of he’s given a “next season” head coach job. So we have him as head coach for two seasons in all. I’m okay with that. Anything pass that and I will be extremely upset at it.

The issue with Korver may be HIS desire to play for a contender in this late stage of his career. We all believe he wants to hang around here and teach the young kids but if I was him I sure as sh!t wouldn’t. LoL 🤣

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