Live Thread: Cavs vs Pacers (Home Again?)

Well, the Cleveland Cavaliers are 0-5 to start the season. While no one likes a loss, the losses at home against Atlanta and Brooklyn were particularly upsetting. It’s frustrating when your team doesn’t show up for the home crowd. I don’t predict tonight will look any better. The preseason showed us that this Pacers team is like the big brother version of what the Cavs want to be. They do everything Cleveland wants to do, but better. To be fair, the Pacers are led by head coach Nate McMillan who has turned the team into an underdog pick for Eastern Conference Champions. Meanwhile, the Cavs are headed by Tyronn Lue, who has been, uh, disappointing… In addition to the coaching ineptitude, Cleveland’s star power forward, Kevin Love, is still questionable for tonight’s game.

If Love can’t go, expect another pummeling as the Cavs work through their early season issues. Korver had a huge 4th quarter to close out the last loss to Detroit so I expect we should see more of him and maybe some actual sets designed to get him free on the perimeter. The Pacers are sitting at 3-2 with losses to Minnesota and Milwaukee. This Pacers team also hasn’t forgotten about how close they came to knocking out the Cavaliers from last year’s playoffs. If Oladipo and company come out looking to settle old scores, it could get ugly. My guess is Indiana 123, Cavs 108. Nonetheless, as always, Go Cavs!

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NOMAD
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1 month 11 days ago

GOING BACK TO WHAT JASON SAID—-LNJ SHOULD START—-ANTE IN NEXT—T.T. PLAYS ONLY AND REPEAT ONLY IF / WHEN WE NEED TOUGHNESS OR IF LNJOR ANTE ARE STRUGGLING BIG TIME …………………WE ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE THIS YEAR—–T.T. WILL BE GONE SOON– (HOPING–IF NOT THIS YEAR THEN NEXT YEAR )—PLAY THE YOUTH—LNJ / ANTE ———-TOTALLY ” CLUELESS” ———MAYBE TY WANTS TO GET FIRED AND COLLECT AN EASY PAYCHECK ———–IF LOVE IS HEALTHY FOR THE HAWKS GAME AND WE LOSE ……THEN THAT LOSING STREAK WITH THE KYRIE TEAM COULD BE IN JEOPARDY

JRL
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JRL
1 month 11 days ago

Didn’t catch the game but the comments paint a clear picture of cLueless doing his best.

Scotch
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Scotch
1 month 11 days ago

Cedi needs a defined role! Korver needs a real offensive set! Nance needs an expanded role where he gets touches! Love needs to play within a body moving offense! And good god zizic needs freaking minutes with the starters…he is too good to waste.

Unless we want to lose 70 games. Then keep doing what you’re doing Lue

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 11 days ago

I think it’s more than just Cedi that needs a defined role. I feel like the Cavs are trying to do more than they are capable of achieving.

Scotch
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Scotch
1 month 11 days ago

Good Lord. Kobe talking about LeBron and “killer mentality” makes me laugh. Kobe saying “when you treat each practice like a game 7 it trickles down to the rest of the guys”. Really Kobe? Is that why some of your teams missed the playoffs? Is that why Gasol was the best player on the court in the 2009 finals? Is that why you chased Shaw out of LA even though he was the reason you had 3 titles already? Is that why you never sniffed a title without Phil Jackson?

Goodness. How does Kobe have a voice in the NBA world right now?

MikeO
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1 month 11 days ago

Kobe is a joke. He’s spent his entire life trying to mimic Jordan. At least he’s not sitting with Pierce and Jalen Rose on one of those awful NBA shows. Small blessings.

JudeElysium
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JudeElysium
1 month 11 days ago

Kobe is the modern reason why people think Hood has a good game when he has 20 points…on 25 shots an 10 free throws.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 11 days ago

I respect anyone for not being anything near a Jalen Rose. He’s a professional troll and I don’t get why anyone listens to him. It’s part of the reason I don’t watch or read ESPN.

scotch
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scotch
1 month 11 days ago

I meant Shaq out of LA…but chasing Brian Shaw out of LA might be just as important lol /s

Joeyb
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Joeyb
1 month 11 days ago

6 lessons in 6 games. Lue is dropping serious knowledge.

CLF
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CLF
1 month 11 days ago

The starting lineup struggled again. I’d try Clarkson in place of Hood, and Nance in place of TT…. that’s what the Hollinger’s analytics suggest to get a stronger starting lineup out there.

Scotch
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Scotch
1 month 11 days ago

Korver, not Clarkson. Hollinger’s analytics have their limits. Clarkson is a sieve on D but has been playing aginst scrubs. Korver should start and play 15-20 mins. Fill in Clarkson when mixed lineups are haplening for the other team

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 11 days ago

I would do Korver over Clarkson.

JudeElysium
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JudeElysium
1 month 11 days ago

Agreed. JC also has more value as a bench scorer. Off the bench his iso play is sometimes a concern, in the starting lineup it would be a liability.

Anonymous
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Anonymous
1 month 11 days ago

Cedi sucks.

MikeO
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MikeO
1 month 11 days ago

Hi çol$. You do know you’re banned here, right?

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 11 days ago

I think the biggest problem with this organization is that they’ve relied on LeBron for way too long, that they’ve become savior reliant. Even the years LeBron spent in Miami, they were tanking, and working to get him back here. They don’t know how to function without a basketball savior.
I’m hoping that despite the growing pains, they can figure it out. But I think they’ve got a long road ahead.

JudeElysium
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1 month 11 days ago

Defintely. That’s why I think not having Love the last two games may have been a blessing. They were at least competing without him and now when he comes back Im hoping he can just add to the team rather than being a scapegoat or crutch.

MikeO
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1 month 11 days ago

Not a terrible game without Love. Nwaba needs to play.

Delightful end to the Laker-Spurs game, with Rondo going JR on Lebron. Derozan has been a machine this year.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 11 days ago

He’s the mid-range monster, although now that he’s with Pop he may be just a monster.

Jason
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1 month 11 days ago

On my Cavs ‘to do’ list, I had getting rid of Lue & Longabarfi in the top 4 with keeping the pick and developing the young players.

Keeping them both assures we keep the pick, but retards the development of the young guys.

After 30 games we should almost be locked into top 3 and can make a change. Bottom 3 looking like Cavs, Suns, Hawks.

Nate Smith
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1 month 11 days ago

Dont forget kings. Also, an injury can chsnge everything

Jason
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Jason
1 month 11 days ago

After how many games can draft talk begin? Twenty?

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 11 days ago

Yeah I agree with Chris K, our margin is slim, and we can’t afford these losing streaks. I’d be shocked if the Cavs win more than 30 games.

Chris K
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Chris K
1 month 11 days ago

Now. Our lottery pick is safe…

Jason
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1 month 11 days ago

1) Nwaba needs more minutes. Take some from Hood (who shot halfway decent tonight).

2) Nance should start most nights with Ante getting reserve minutes. Put in TT if we are getting out toughed or if Ante struggles.

3) Let Frye play 6-8 minutes. At least the other team has to guard him.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 11 days ago

No lead after halftime:

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 11 days ago

If only the Cavs could play the Cavs, then they might have a shot of winning a game.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 11 days ago

I thought the Hawks game was on the road but it’s at home apparently.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 11 days ago

The Cleveland Cavaliers lost their sixth straight game to open the season, something that hasn’t happened in more than 20 years — a stretch that goes back to the 1995-96 campaign. -Fedor

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 11 days ago

It looks like the worst start in NBA history, since the expansion era, was the 2009-10 NJ Nets, who started 0-18.

Scotch
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Scotch
1 month 11 days ago

Lue cannot possibly screw this group up that badly can he? We have legit players. He just keeps going to TT

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 11 days ago

I would hope they wouldn’t set another losing record, but I’m starting to think it’s a legit possibility. If that does happen, I expect Lue to get fired, and Larry Drew to coach the remainder of this season.

NOMAD
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NOMAD
1 month 11 days ago

BEEN OUT ALL NIGHT –JUST GOT HOME –LOOKED AT BOX SCORE—ANTE WITH HIS USUAL 3 MINUTES OF GARBAGE TIME —–WTF CLUELESS ???

believeLAND
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believeLAND
1 month 11 days ago

Lol, this comment made me laugh out loud. Thank you Nomad

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 11 days ago

If the Cavs want to beat the Hawks on Tuesday, they need to put Nwaba and Nance in the starting lineup for Hood and TT.

Scotch
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Scotch
1 month 11 days ago

We could start Korver, Love, Cedi, Nance, and hill. Theyd be undersized against most frontlines but three ball and body movement potential coups be glorious

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 11 days ago

Yeah forgot about Korver. Should start Korver, and the bench should include Sexton, Nwaba, and Zizic

Scotch
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Scotch
1 month 11 days ago

Yeah Nwaba makes me like defense again. He is one of the few guys on our team who can guard multiple positions because he is so physical. And zizic isnt gonna happen under Lue because it’s only stats, facts, metrics, etc that make his case. He just doesn’t look like a guy who is as effective as he is. ilgauskas also would ride the pine on a Lue team

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 11 days ago

I’m not this huge Zizic supporter, but this team stinks and I would love to see if Zizic has anything.

Scotch
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Scotch
1 month 11 days ago

He is more many times more dangerous than TT. We’d have space to operate once he hit a couple 12 footers. And he has good hands for low passes which is crucial in a roll man.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 11 days ago

I don’t disagree. My only concern with him would be that he may not be as mobile as TT, and may get exposed on switches. But to be fair to ZZ, he never plays, so how would we really know.

Nate Smith
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1 month 11 days ago

Nwaba was pissed when he came out. I liked that.

Nate Smith
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1 month 11 days ago

Cavs got killed by the refs. Indy flopped their way into about a dozen points. That being said, indy was playing at about 80% effort and still shooting 65%

Chris K
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Chris K
1 month 11 days ago

At +13, is David Nwaba this year’s Cedi?

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 11 days ago

He needs to play a lot more.

JudeElysium
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JudeElysium
1 month 11 days ago

119 to 107 is pretty damn close to 123 to 108.

Scotch
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Scotch
1 month 11 days ago

Well…there were some fun stretches. Lineups are still spaghetti. Young Bull just used the kyle Lowry jump back into the defender and finish the layup and 1. More plz

Leo
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Leo
1 month 11 days ago

This team looks like they have never played before and no one has confidence outside Clarkson nance and maybe Hood to shoot ball or make plays

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
1 month 11 days ago

welcome to the 1st week of the multi-year (likely a decade) when the mortgage for the finals run must be paid…

Nate Smith
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1 month 11 days ago

Thwres no mortgage for the finals. Thw mortgage was just a lot of bad decisions.

TheOtherJason
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TheOtherJason
1 month 11 days ago

Why swo meany doublewous?

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 11 days ago

I wonder what the next giveaway will be? Dan Gilbert’s dirty underwear?

CLF
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CLF
1 month 11 days ago

Never gonna beat a team when they’re shooting 65%

Brad G
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Brad G
1 month 11 days ago

Can we use our shoe boxes to fill up on free chicken nuggets at Mcdonalds?

Anonymous
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Anonymous
1 month 11 days ago

This lineup to close is criminal

CLF
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CLF
1 month 11 days ago

Hill isn’t the defensive guy he once was

CLF
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CLF
1 month 11 days ago

The defense is just too awful to overcome the defensive limitations.

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
1 month 11 days ago

prediction time.. against which team does this group get their 1st win?

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 11 days ago

They play the Hawks on Tuesday. And seem to play better on the road

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
1 month 11 days ago

brooklyn on dec3?

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
1 month 11 days ago

or memphis dec26?

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
1 month 11 days ago

or brooklyn feb13 (on ESPN!!)

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
1 month 11 days ago

of course, they would then be about 1-47

CLF
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CLF
1 month 11 days ago

Hood having a good game!!!

Nate Smith
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1 month 11 days ago

Tt back in. This game is over.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 11 days ago

Okay this game is pretty much over

Nate Smith
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1 month 11 days ago

Why is sext9n playing?

Nate Smith
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1 month 11 days ago

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 11 days ago

Yes it makes sense

Nate Smith
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1 month 11 days ago

Sexton just can’t hang

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 11 days ago

Captain Bandaid 3

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 11 days ago

Nice to see Clarkson shoot and make a 3

Nate Smith
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1 month 11 days ago

Dougie kicked the leg out.

Nate Smith
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1 month 11 days ago

Nate Smith
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1 month 11 days ago

Nate Smith
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1 month 11 days ago

Hownthe hell did they play that quarter to a draw?

Anonymous
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Anonymous
1 month 11 days ago

Larry Nance Jr is how

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 11 days ago

Get it to Korver

Nate Smith
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1 month 11 days ago

Great close to the quarter, Collin!

Nate Smith
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1 month 11 days ago

Good mov3, Sexton

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 11 days ago

Another BogFloppovich

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 11 days ago

Sexton looks RAW

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 11 days ago

Nice… Nwaba and it’s back to 6 point diff

Nate Smith
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1 month 11 days ago

Sexton gotta start turning that cornwr with force on p/r instead of probing.

Nate Smith
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1 month 11 days ago

If the past two games have proved anything, it’s that the Cavs can’t start Thompson anymore. Teams just sag so far off him that unless he’s on a ball screen, they’re playing 4 on 5.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 11 days ago

They appear to be taking more 3s, so I applaud them for that, everything else is mostly 2 thumbs down, or an empty shoebox clogging up the aisles. It’s probably a damn fire hazard too.

Anonymous
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Anonymous
1 month 11 days ago

Hard to run when the other team never misses. This is why you need an actual offense Ty Lue

Nate Smith
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1 month 11 days ago

Yeash. This lineup is death.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 11 days ago

Yeah this game is getting out of reach

Nate Smith
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1 month 11 days ago

Bogdanovich becoming one of my least favorite players. The guy flops constantly and travels all the time.

JudeElysium
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JudeElysium
1 month 11 days ago

I really hate him too…more and more every time i see him

CLF
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CLF
1 month 11 days ago

1st team gotta get it together

Nate Smith
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1 month 11 days ago

They can’t stop pick and roll at all.

CLF
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CLF
1 month 11 days ago

Well they still have a chance

Jason
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Jason
1 month 11 days ago

Pacers shooting 65%. And we have 11 TOs. Miracle we are only down 5.

Brad G
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Brad G
1 month 11 days ago

It’s shoebox giveaway night at the Q. Just empty shoe boxes. Not only do they crowd up the aisles but again, they are empty shoe boxes.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 11 days ago

Yeah I still can’t believe that. It’s so pathetic that it’s hilarious.

Nate Smith
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1 month 11 days ago

But you aint kidding. As my wife told my daughters, “They’re giving away trash, girls.”

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 11 days ago

I’m surprised Longo isn’t in the box, he could probably fit.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 11 days ago

😂😂😂

Nate Smith
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1 month 11 days ago

See tweet at beginning of thread.

Jason
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Jason
1 month 11 days ago

Hood has 2 made 3s in 5.5 games. Ugh.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 11 days ago

Hood jacking up clanks to close the quarter

Nate Smith
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1 month 11 days ago

Coulda been worse. Cut out the dumb turnovers, and the terrible layups om D, thats a pretty good half.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 11 days ago

There you go

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 11 days ago

Rodney has an open 3, but decided to dribble around

CLF
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CLF
1 month 11 days ago

Eight turnovers in the quarter.. Awful.

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