Live Thread: Cavs vs Pacers (Home Again?)
2018-10-27
Well, the Cleveland Cavaliers are 0-5 to start the season. While no one likes a loss, the losses at home against Atlanta and Brooklyn were particularly upsetting. It’s frustrating when your team doesn’t show up for the home crowd. I don’t predict tonight will look any better. The preseason showed us that this Pacers team is like the big brother version of what the Cavs want to be. They do everything Cleveland wants to do, but better. To be fair, the Pacers are led by head coach Nate McMillan who has turned the team into an underdog pick for Eastern Conference Champions. Meanwhile, the Cavs are headed by Tyronn Lue, who has been, uh, disappointing… In addition to the coaching ineptitude, Cleveland’s star power forward, Kevin Love, is still questionable for tonight’s game.
If Love can’t go, expect another pummeling as the Cavs work through their early season issues. Korver had a huge 4th quarter to close out the last loss to Detroit so I expect we should see more of him and maybe some actual sets designed to get him free on the perimeter. The Pacers are sitting at 3-2 with losses to Minnesota and Milwaukee. This Pacers team also hasn’t forgotten about how close they came to knocking out the Cavaliers from last year’s playoffs. If Oladipo and company come out looking to settle old scores, it could get ugly. My guess is Indiana 123, Cavs 108. Nonetheless, as always, Go Cavs!
Recaps up, folks.
GOING BACK TO WHAT JASON SAID—-LNJ SHOULD START—-ANTE IN NEXT—T.T. PLAYS ONLY AND REPEAT ONLY IF / WHEN WE NEED TOUGHNESS OR IF LNJOR ANTE ARE STRUGGLING BIG TIME …………………WE ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE THIS YEAR—–T.T. WILL BE GONE SOON– (HOPING–IF NOT THIS YEAR THEN NEXT YEAR )—PLAY THE YOUTH—LNJ / ANTE ———-TOTALLY ” CLUELESS” ———MAYBE TY WANTS TO GET FIRED AND COLLECT AN EASY PAYCHECK ———–IF LOVE IS HEALTHY FOR THE HAWKS GAME AND WE LOSE ……THEN THAT LOSING STREAK WITH THE KYRIE TEAM COULD BE IN JEOPARDY
Didn’t catch the game but the comments paint a clear picture of cLueless doing his best.
Cedi needs a defined role! Korver needs a real offensive set! Nance needs an expanded role where he gets touches! Love needs to play within a body moving offense! And good god zizic needs freaking minutes with the starters…he is too good to waste.
Unless we want to lose 70 games. Then keep doing what you’re doing Lue
I think it’s more than just Cedi that needs a defined role. I feel like the Cavs are trying to do more than they are capable of achieving.
Good Lord. Kobe talking about LeBron and “killer mentality” makes me laugh. Kobe saying “when you treat each practice like a game 7 it trickles down to the rest of the guys”. Really Kobe? Is that why some of your teams missed the playoffs? Is that why Gasol was the best player on the court in the 2009 finals? Is that why you chased Shaw out of LA even though he was the reason you had 3 titles already? Is that why you never sniffed a title without Phil Jackson? Goodness. How does Kobe have a voice in the NBA… Read more »
I meant Shaq out of LA…but chasing Brian Shaw out of LA might be just as important lol /s
Kobe is a joke. He’s spent his entire life trying to mimic Jordan. At least he’s not sitting with Pierce and Jalen Rose on one of those awful NBA shows. Small blessings.
I respect anyone for not being anything near a Jalen Rose. He’s a professional troll and I don’t get why anyone listens to him. It’s part of the reason I don’t watch or read ESPN.
Kobe is the modern reason why people think Hood has a good game when he has 20 points…on 25 shots an 10 free throws.
6 lessons in 6 games. Lue is dropping serious knowledge.
The starting lineup struggled again. I’d try Clarkson in place of Hood, and Nance in place of TT…. that’s what the Hollinger’s analytics suggest to get a stronger starting lineup out there.
I would do Korver over Clarkson.
Agreed. JC also has more value as a bench scorer. Off the bench his iso play is sometimes a concern, in the starting lineup it would be a liability.
Korver, not Clarkson. Hollinger’s analytics have their limits. Clarkson is a sieve on D but has been playing aginst scrubs. Korver should start and play 15-20 mins. Fill in Clarkson when mixed lineups are haplening for the other team
Cedi sucks.
Hi çol$. You do know you’re banned here, right?
I think the biggest problem with this organization is that they’ve relied on LeBron for way too long, that they’ve become savior reliant. Even the years LeBron spent in Miami, they were tanking, and working to get him back here. They don’t know how to function without a basketball savior.
I’m hoping that despite the growing pains, they can figure it out. But I think they’ve got a long road ahead.
Defintely. That’s why I think not having Love the last two games may have been a blessing. They were at least competing without him and now when he comes back Im hoping he can just add to the team rather than being a scapegoat or crutch.
Not a terrible game without Love. Nwaba needs to play.
Delightful end to the Laker-Spurs game, with Rondo going JR on Lebron. Derozan has been a machine this year.
He’s the mid-range monster, although now that he’s with Pop he may be just a monster.
On my Cavs ‘to do’ list, I had getting rid of Lue & Longabarfi in the top 4 with keeping the pick and developing the young players.
Keeping them both assures we keep the pick, but retards the development of the young guys.
After 30 games we should almost be locked into top 3 and can make a change. Bottom 3 looking like Cavs, Suns, Hawks.
Dont forget kings. Also, an injury can chsnge everything
After how many games can draft talk begin? Twenty?
Now. Our lottery pick is safe…
Yeah I agree with Chris K, our margin is slim, and we can’t afford these losing streaks. I’d be shocked if the Cavs win more than 30 games.
1) Nwaba needs more minutes. Take some from Hood (who shot halfway decent tonight).
2) Nance should start most nights with Ante getting reserve minutes. Put in TT if we are getting out toughed or if Ante struggles.
3) Let Frye play 6-8 minutes. At least the other team has to guard him.
No lead after halftime:
If only the Cavs could play the Cavs, then they might have a shot of winning a game.
I thought the Hawks game was on the road but it’s at home apparently.
The Cleveland Cavaliers lost their sixth straight game to open the season, something that hasn’t happened in more than 20 years — a stretch that goes back to the 1995-96 campaign. -Fedor
It looks like the worst start in NBA history, since the expansion era, was the 2009-10 NJ Nets, who started 0-18.
Lue cannot possibly screw this group up that badly can he? We have legit players. He just keeps going to TT
I would hope they wouldn’t set another losing record, but I’m starting to think it’s a legit possibility. If that does happen, I expect Lue to get fired, and Larry Drew to coach the remainder of this season.
BEEN OUT ALL NIGHT –JUST GOT HOME –LOOKED AT BOX SCORE—ANTE WITH HIS USUAL 3 MINUTES OF GARBAGE TIME —–WTF CLUELESS ???
Lol, this comment made me laugh out loud. Thank you Nomad
If the Cavs want to beat the Hawks on Tuesday, they need to put Nwaba and Nance in the starting lineup for Hood and TT.
We could start Korver, Love, Cedi, Nance, and hill. Theyd be undersized against most frontlines but three ball and body movement potential coups be glorious
Yeah forgot about Korver. Should start Korver, and the bench should include Sexton, Nwaba, and Zizic
Yeah Nwaba makes me like defense again. He is one of the few guys on our team who can guard multiple positions because he is so physical. And zizic isnt gonna happen under Lue because it’s only stats, facts, metrics, etc that make his case. He just doesn’t look like a guy who is as effective as he is. ilgauskas also would ride the pine on a Lue team
I’m not this huge Zizic supporter, but this team stinks and I would love to see if Zizic has anything.
He is more many times more dangerous than TT. We’d have space to operate once he hit a couple 12 footers. And he has good hands for low passes which is crucial in a roll man.
I don’t disagree. My only concern with him would be that he may not be as mobile as TT, and may get exposed on switches. But to be fair to ZZ, he never plays, so how would we really know.
Nwaba was pissed when he came out. I liked that.
Cavs got killed by the refs. Indy flopped their way into about a dozen points. That being said, indy was playing at about 80% effort and still shooting 65%
At +13, is David Nwaba this year’s Cedi?
He needs to play a lot more.
119 to 107 is pretty damn close to 123 to 108.
Well…there were some fun stretches. Lineups are still spaghetti. Young Bull just used the kyle Lowry jump back into the defender and finish the layup and 1. More plz
This team looks like they have never played before and no one has confidence outside Clarkson nance and maybe Hood to shoot ball or make plays
welcome to the 1st week of the multi-year (likely a decade) when the mortgage for the finals run must be paid…
Thwres no mortgage for the finals. Thw mortgage was just a lot of bad decisions.
Why swo meany doublewous?
I wonder what the next giveaway will be? Dan Gilbert’s dirty underwear?
Never gonna beat a team when they’re shooting 65%
Can we use our shoe boxes to fill up on free chicken nuggets at Mcdonalds?
This lineup to close is criminal
Hill isn’t the defensive guy he once was
The defense is just too awful to overcome the defensive limitations.
prediction time.. against which team does this group get their 1st win?
brooklyn on dec3?
or memphis dec26?
or brooklyn feb13 (on ESPN!!)
of course, they would then be about 1-47
They play the Hawks on Tuesday. And seem to play better on the road
Hood having a good game!!!
Tt back in. This game is over.
Okay this game is pretty much over
Why is sext9n playing?
Yes it makes sense
Sexton just can’t hang
Captain Bandaid 3
Nice to see Clarkson shoot and make a 3
Dougie kicked the leg out.
Hownthe hell did they play that quarter to a draw?
Larry Nance Jr is how
Get it to Korver
Great close to the quarter, Collin!
Good mov3, Sexton
Another BogFloppovich
Sexton looks RAW
Nice… Nwaba and it’s back to 6 point diff
Sexton gotta start turning that cornwr with force on p/r instead of probing.
If the past two games have proved anything, it’s that the Cavs can’t start Thompson anymore. Teams just sag so far off him that unless he’s on a ball screen, they’re playing 4 on 5.
They appear to be taking more 3s, so I applaud them for that, everything else is mostly 2 thumbs down, or an empty shoebox clogging up the aisles. It’s probably a damn fire hazard too.
Hard to run when the other team never misses. This is why you need an actual offense Ty Lue
Yeash. This lineup is death.
Yeah this game is getting out of reach
Bogdanovich becoming one of my least favorite players. The guy flops constantly and travels all the time.
I really hate him too…more and more every time i see him
1st team gotta get it together
They can’t stop pick and roll at all.
Well they still have a chance
Pacers shooting 65%. And we have 11 TOs. Miracle we are only down 5.
It’s shoebox giveaway night at the Q. Just empty shoe boxes. Not only do they crowd up the aisles but again, they are empty shoe boxes.
See tweet at beginning of thread.
But you aint kidding. As my wife told my daughters, “They’re giving away trash, girls.”
😂😂😂
I’m surprised Longo isn’t in the box, he could probably fit.
Yeah I still can’t believe that. It’s so pathetic that it’s hilarious.
Hood has 2 made 3s in 5.5 games. Ugh.
Hood jacking up clanks to close the quarter