Recap: Nets 102, Cavs 86 (or, Triskaphobia)

Halloween isn’t until next week… but the Cleveland Cavaliers seem to already be suffering from a different brand of terror. No, triskaphobia isn’t the fear of watching Tristan Thompson’s futile offensive stylings (that would be triskaidekaphobia — fear of the number 13). It’s the fear of three… or in this case, threes.

Bad things have come in threes so far this season. The Cavs were 0-3 before taking on the Brooklyn Nets. After losing this one, it’s the longest they’ve gone winless to start a season since ’03. Things all fell apart in quarter number 3… primarily because that’s when the Nets went berserk from three. Meanwhile, the Cavs have themselves been awful from three (they made just 3 of 18 tonight), so much so that they seem afraid to take threes even when they’re of the wide open variety.

In the end, this game was over after three… and just so I’m not up til 3 recapping this, I’m going to break this down into threes as much as possible.

3 Non-Scary Quarters

For the first two quarters of the contest and the final quarter, the Cavs actually played with some defensive energy and effort. They weren’t hitting shots early (26% in the first quarter), but neither were the Nets (37%). Too often, the Cavs’ shooters got scared off of the three point line, opting instead for all too familiar pullup mid-range twos. However, they were mostly doing the same to the Brooklyn long bombers. Some of this could be ascribed to cold shooting, but also, Ty Lue had the Cavs switching just 1-4 instead of switching everything. In addition, guys were closing out with considerable more gusto than they showed against the Atlanta Hawks on Sunday.

Unfortunately, quarter 3 was their downfall… as it has been in so many recent seasons. The Cavs came out flat in the third, lacking the hustle they showed in holding the Nets to a draw at 45 through the first half of play. For the first seven minutes of the quarter, all Brooklyn took were threes or shots within three feet of the basket. They made five of each, going on a 23-5 run to effectively put the game away. The Cavs allowed the Nets to shoot 72% for the quarter and 60% from three (6-10). Notorious Cav killer, Jared Dudley (yeah… he’s still in the League), drained three of his four threes in the terrible stretch, and former Cav, Joe Harris, also chipped in three of his six buckets.

In the final frame, the Cavs managed to keep the game from being a complete blowout, yet the damage was done already. They seemed content to trade long twos with Brooklyn, rather than hunt for potential threes to try and close the gap. The margin fluctuated between 18-22 points right up until Collin Sexton hit a garbage time bucket to close the scoring, and trim it to a 16 point loss.

3 x 14

There were three Cavs who all led the team in scoring on the night. Kevin Love, Collin Sexton and Jordan Clarkson each overcame their triskaidekaphobia by adding one extra point to their totals. Yet, they all got there in very different ways. Love was fairly efficient, knocking down four of his nine attempts, including 2-5 from three. He also got to the line for 4-5, and added 11 boards and two assists to his tally. However, nine shots weren’t nearly enough looks for Kev, as five other Cavs had more attempts.

Sexton had a decent bounce back game following his forgettable night against the Hawks. The Young Bull converted 6-10 shots, but did most of his damage on drives and layups. He only attempted a single three, seemingly just as uncomfortable as his fellow Cavs from long range. He did have three rebounds though.

Clarkson had a miserable night shooting from the field (4-14, 0-4 from three), but got to the line six times and was perfect from there. He was part of the group that helped keep things even in the first half, though he did turn the ball over four times. Chalk him up for three assists… even though I couldn’t remember any of them if I tried.

3’s A Crowd (Apparently)

Rough night for the Cavalier big men, as Tristan Thompson and Larry Nance, Jr. combined to make just three shots out of 17. Okay, that’s a little unfair to LNJ, since he was just 2-7. Tristan had one of his ugliest shooting nights in recent memory with a 1-10 stinkfest. One of his scoop shots looked worse than a knuckleball thrown by Three Finger Mordecai Brown. TT can certainly still pull down oodles of rebounds (especially the offensive ones when the Cavs shoot this poorly), and had 11 on the night. Yet, does that really off-set the disadvantage the Cavs have offensively when he’s on the floor?

Nance wasn’t a whole lot better, as Jared Allen and the rest of the Nets had no reason to fear much offensively from either Cavs center. Larry did chip in six boards, and equalled Tristan’s four dimes to help round out his stat sheet somewhat.

Now that Nance is back, however, it appears there’s no room in Ty Lue’s rotation for the third big… Ante Zizic. You know, the big dude who is shooting 10-13 on the year… who actually has enough of an offensive arsenal to make opponents even slightly concerned. You can just ride the pine with your 20 PER, Ante. Have fun picking up garbage. Sigh.

3 Point Specialists?

There was some brouhaha this past weekend about certain vets being told they would probably be getting their minutes cut for younger players. Two of the main vets in question were JR Smith and Kyle Korver. The other thing these two have in common, is that they are probably (outside of Kevin Love) the two best three point sharpshooters on the team. Both got to play a part against the Nets, and both seemed at least somewhat effective from a hustle and ball-movement standpoint in the first half. However, between them they took just a single three in their combined 37 minutes on the floor. Which begs the question… why play three point specialists if you’re not going to run sets to get them three point shots? The drive and kick game in Cleveland has become an endangered species.

Credit to Korver for dishing three dimes. And, credit to JR who turned in the shot of the game (and maybe of the season thus far)…

3 Rough Nights

The other three starters had mostly forgettable evenings. It was the second straight poor shooting performance from Cedi Osman (4-12, 0-2 from three for eight points), and this one came without his usual passing game or defensive effort. He had a particularly tough stretch in the third, as he lost track of Joe Harris a couple of times, missed two relatively easy shots and turned the ball over stepping out of bounds. Cedi did snag six boards, but otherwise fell short tonight.

George Hill at least attempted some threes. He only hit one of the four he took from distance, but credit for trying. The rest of his night was unmemorable, as he had zero assists in 24 minutes, and rarely looked to be facilitating anything.

As someone said on the thread (I’m paraphrasing) “Rodney Hood never met a wide open three he couldn’t dribble out of in favor of a long two…” This was in full effect tonight, as Hood shook off several opportunities from three to pump fake and drive his way into oblivion. This Hood belongs on an electric car… because he leaves no trace emissions and has zero footprint.

3 Positives

  • The Cavs once again out-rebounded an opponent… this time to a tune of 53-44.
  • The Cavs actually showed some improvement in their defensive energy and schemes… well, at least enough to even things up in a low scoring first half.
  • The Cavs almost held the Nets under a hundred… bringing their season points against average down to a mere 120.5 ppg (sorry… grasping I know).

3 Negatives

  • Kevin Love had just nine shots… while Tristan somehow had 10.
  • The third quarter woes have returned.
  • The Cavs are afraid of the three point line on both ends of the floor.

3 And Out

Credit to Tyronn Lue for at least making some adjustments to his switch everything defense. By not switching his fives, he at least prevented some easy dunks and alley oops, while avoiding putting his big men on islands against guards too often. Yet, the old unnecessary scrambling returned to start the second half, fueling the Nets onslaught from three. On one glaring example, both Larry Nance and Kyle Korver raced to help triple team a shooter on the right wing… only to leave a wide open shooter on the left to swish an uncontested three on a skip pass. For the baby steps forward on defense (third quarter aside), there were several steps back offensively. Cold nights will happen. Teams double teaming Love will happen. But, trading long twos for threes will not cut a deficit. In a three happy League… the Cavaliers can not afford a case of triskaphobia.

Oh yeah… and Mike Longabardi should still be fired.

3vil G3nius out!

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NOMAD
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1 month 14 days ago

THANKS FOR CHIMING IN MIKEO :)

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NOMAD
1 month 14 days ago

“…….AND THE BEAT GOES ON……….THE BEAT GOES ON “”

MikeO
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MikeO
1 month 14 days ago

La de dah de dah

Anonymous
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1 month 14 days ago

Is this a bad time to point out that instead of Clarkson, Nance, and Hood, we could have Kyrie?

ChrisKorvalier
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ChrisKorvalier
1 month 13 days ago

If it helps, Zizic’s PER is much higher than Kyrie’s this year.

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buck turgidson
1 month 14 days ago

one of the all-time worst decisions in the history of professional sports.. a joke..

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JoeyB
1 month 14 days ago

Just read that Houston offered 4 first round picks for Butler, who is on an expiring deal. Note that Minnesota called his bluff and refused to do a trade that wasn’t for value they wanted. Butler is quite possibly even more of a head case than Kyrie.

Nate Smith
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1 month 14 days ago

That doesn’t even make sense. I don’t think they have four oiks to trade.

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worldbfree
1 month 14 days ago

Except that we couldn’t have Kyrie. He was miserable in Cleveland and dying to get out as soon as he could — as he’s made abundantly clear since being a Celtic.

I know it’s easy to hate on Dan Gilbert, but this organization has been so grotesquely mismanaged for so long — terrible coaching hires, alienating star players, letting a genius GM walk over a few million dollars, historically miscalculated trades — that I can’t help but feel like the real problem here is the culture that Gilbert has created.

I was so excited for this season as a chance to watch young guys develop and play hard after the maddening regular-season sleepwalk of the LBJ years, but I’m starting to wonder whether it’s all gonna just be misery until Gilbert sells the team. It just feels like the joy drains out of everyone who works for him…

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1 month 14 days ago

Gilbert gets kudos from many for being willing and able to spend big bucks. That is a useful (and necessary) attribute to have, but I think the cultural/mgmt. issues are as important. The long term success in SA, for example, is much more than Popp and winning the lottery for Duncan. Haven’t ever had that level of confidence with respect to Cavs, even during Griff era.

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1 month 14 days ago

I don’t disagree, but I’ll also fully admit that I’m not in that evironment so I’m basing my judgment on what I hear from the media. At some point though it is fair to question the culture and the ownership.

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1 month 14 days ago

Yeah. I wonder that too. Gilbert enabled James the first time around – I don’t know if it would’ve mattered, but he didn’t have the structure in place to handle him. Then he presided over a horrible stretch of basketball and drafting mistakes. Then finally got out of the way and lucked into James wanting to come back. Then he chased him off, intentionally, it felt like. It’s been a decade of bad management from him, never once retaining his best people and constantly sticking his nose in where it doesn’t belong to screw things up.

He’s like a less competent Mark Cuban.

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buck turgidson
1 month 14 days ago

blake goes off for 70 tonight.. pistons by at least 50

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buck turgidson
1 month 14 days ago

i think this team will be lucky to win 10 games this season.. absolutely laughable..

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
1 month 14 days ago

this is the flip-side of going the LBJ route the past 4 yrs.. was it worth it? depends on your pt of view.. the cavs didn’t get to the finals 4 straight years, LBJ got there, and carried the team with him..

JoeyB
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1 month 14 days ago

It was definitely worth it. 2016 was worth whatever horror show we have to experience now. It doesn’t mean I like it, but I wouldn’t trade 2016 for anything.

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
1 month 14 days ago

i understand and respect that point of view.. i don’t fully agree with it, because i enjoy watching a great team and franchise grow through over the years, even if championships never come.. but LBJ is a once in a lifetime player, and this is cleveland, after all, so i do get it..

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buck turgidson
1 month 14 days ago

sadly, boston fans will have much to cheer about (even absent a championship) easily for at least the next decade..

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
1 month 14 days ago

we are likely in an nba version of a browns-redux

Patrick
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1 month 14 days ago
Painful to watch. First game of my partial plan is Pacers on Saturday. Anticipate it being dead at the Q, and will go in with the mindset to be entertained by skilled team play, no matter the jersey (probably visitors). Hope eventually to be able to get excited about witnessing growth of young talent (in home jerseys), but have now put that off for awhile. At least there will be a nice dinner out beforehand. Another more basic question I have revolves around the source(s) of the game plan. Call me crazy, but even during the golden era I thought that the Cavs didn’t develop and run plays to take full advantage of their high skill level at multiple positions. I’m not convinced that searching for a mismatch and then playing iso is the most effective approach. […or not finding the mismatch but having Kyrie or LeBron go iso anyway, after a required 21 seconds of pounding the ball into the court…]. Why was KLove standing in the corner so much? So the question: was this lack of coaching prowess, or ball dominant players (Kyrie, LeBron) not interested in doing anything complicated (or say, god forbid, setting a screen for… Read more »
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It is a combination. Lebron is a hard guy to get to run sets because he likes to see what the defense does and then break it down. He also tries to conserve energy by not running around. On the other hand, the coaching was clearly a problem as well. I always looked to the games when Lebron didn’t play or when he wasn’t on the floor. Did the rest of the team know what to do? Did they run sets for other players with specific skills? The answer is no, they didn’t. Because the coaching concept was to play Lebron for 49 minutes a game. Note how much more of a comprehensive scheme Lebron played in Miami. I bet you will see the same in LA. There was never the gravitas here to push Lebron or limit him if it hurt the team. Gilbert pretends he has it, but LBJ never respected him and Duck Fan never supported his coaches or GM enough challenge Lebron. The only time that he was really challenged was 2016, when Griff was given freedom to do what he wanted and Lue still had the testicles to challenge Lebron. Lue lost that the last… Read more »
NOMAD
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1 month 14 days ago

MAYBE JUST MAYBE TY WILL GIVE A LITTLE RUN FOR ANTE TONIGHT …………………HE IS ONLY 7″ TALL ….NOT LIKE TY CAN’T SEE HIM ON THE BENCH

Arch Stanton
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1 month 14 days ago

I haven’t seen anything that suggests Frye is out, so I’m assuming he may get some run tonight.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
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1 month 14 days ago

0 wins; 4 lessons.

JoeyB
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1 month 14 days ago

Very nice. We are going to rack up some serious lessons this year.

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1 month 14 days ago

Hahahahahahahahahhahahhabahahahahahahahahhahababababba

Arch Stanton
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1 month 14 days ago

So I’m assuming “Dekker-The-Wrecker” is starting for Love at the 4?

MikeO
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1 month 14 days ago

Who else?

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 14 days ago

Cedi, Nwaba?

MikeO
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1 month 14 days ago

Nwaba is too undersized I would think…

JoeyB
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JoeyB
1 month 14 days ago

He played J.R. at the four last night.

MikeO
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MikeO
1 month 14 days ago

Can’t see that against Pistons. But then again, I can see this staff doing anything.

JRL
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1 month 14 days ago

Oh my…

Arch Stanton
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1 month 14 days ago

At this point I’m just rooting for a competitive game. If the players are giving up, then they are clearly not playing for their coach IMO.

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1 month 14 days ago

The only shot I saw Korver take was a classic curl off of a pick——-from 18 GD feet! So terrible

Joshua Martin
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1 month 14 days ago

Love and Frye both inactive tonight…against drummond and blake…this one could get ugly.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 14 days ago

Why is Frye out?

JOHN B
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1 month 14 days ago

Well we likely will be 0 and 5 after Pistons game. Love out. This team is nowhere near as bad as the 17 and 65 cavs team the year before we drafted LBJ. But we likely will be close to that record. Who needs to purposefully tank when your coaching staff accidentally tanks by having no logical game plan for our current personnel?

Zion, RJ, Reddish here we come.

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1 month 14 days ago

WHAT IS THE PISTONS GAME SCORING RECORD/ TEAM AND PLAYER —–BOTH COULD BE IN JEOPARDY TONIGHT ………………AND WE ARE “QUESTIONABLE ” VIEWERS TONIGHT ………DUE TO THE JACK… COACHING STAFF ……………………………..THE CAVS FANS WILL GET INTO IT / COME ALIVE / SUPPORT THE TEAM———YOU NEED TO GIVE THEM A REASON TO DO SO !!!

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1 month 14 days ago

Was at the game last night -much different vibe from last season. A lot of empty seats and the crowd was like subdued and seemed not that all into it, even though the first half was competitive.

I feel like there is a decent/good team somewhere in there. We have talent and guys that can ball, but if we’re going to be allergic from the 3 point line then we’re going to be toast. I know Lue is all about playing fast, but I feel like our best chances to win are to muck it up and play ugly, slow, and deliberate. Could be totally wrong on that, but just my thoughts.

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running jumper
1 month 14 days ago

Jay Wright as our coach.

running jumper
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running jumper
1 month 14 days ago

Zion or RJ?

MikeO
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1 month 14 days ago

Probably RJ, but would be nice to see them play in college first. If he’s there, I have no doubt Cavs would take Zion, though, who may be a better Gummy Bear. He might not be better enough.

JOHN B
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JOHN B
1 month 14 days ago

To be fair, he is a whole different level of athleticism than Bennett.

MikeO
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MikeO
1 month 14 days ago

Oh yeah, he looks good, and he might be awesome in the NBA…just his size scares me a bit…

MikeO
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1 month 14 days ago

Love out against Detroit with foot soreness. I’m sure this will go well. Blake may set a new high mark.

JOHN B
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1 month 14 days ago

Well if we keep going this route, I guess I will be looking forward to the college season even more. We could actually have another high pick next draft at this rate. Of course, the damage done by a season of woefully underperforming could put us right back into the post LBJ 1.0 era culture of losing if this team does not find some leadership.

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1 month 14 days ago

Great recap. Every single problem that we see in game for existed in game one. They are the same problems we saw last year every single time LeBron was off the court. Which are the same problems we’ve watched for the last four years every time LeBron is off the court. I have no reason to believe anything will change until the coaching staff is removed.

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1 month 14 days ago

I SEE WHERE THE CANTON CHARGE 1ST GAME IS NOV 3RD—I MIGHT START TUNING INTO THEM——I WOULD THINK THERE SHOULD BE SOME PLAYERS ON THAT TEAM “HUNGRY ” TO GET TO CAVS —BELIEVE THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES ——-SEE SIR DOMINICK IS ON THE CHARGE ROSTER——–THINK HE IS A BETTER OPTION THAN DEKKER OR OUR ‘CTB CHOICE ‘ BONZI

NOMAD
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1 month 14 days ago

I MIGHT BE WRONG HERE –( GIVING THE TALENT ON THIS TEAM MORE THAN THEY DESERVE )—–BUT I REALLY THINK IF COACHED PROPERLY THEY WOULD BE MUCH BETTER THAN WHAT THEY HAVE RECENTLY DISPLAYED ———REALIZE IT IS ONLY 4 GAMES —–AND DID NOT EXPECT THE CAVS TO EVEN MAKE A PLAYOFF SPOT—BUT MY PICK WAS A 32 GAME WIN SEASON —AND ENJOY WATCHING THE YOUNGSTERS GROW AND COMPETE HARD ——-DREAMS VANISH QUICKLY !!!

Nate Smith
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1 month 14 days ago

I legit think Duke could beat the Cavs right now just because Coach K > Ty Lue.

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1 month 14 days ago

NOMAD
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1 month 14 days ago

GREAT POSTS BY ALL—–JASON YOU ARE DEAD ON AS FAR AS RUNNING A MOTION BASED OFFENSE / FOR NOT ONLY LOVE BUT WOULD HELP DRAMATICALLY THE ENTIRE TEAM—–( WE WERE ALL SO TIRED OF WATCHING LEBRON “POUND THE BALL”——-THE FEW MINUTES I DID WATCH THE GAME —WHO DO I SEE “POUNDING THE BALL”—YES NONE OTHER THAN OUR ELITE PT GD– T.T.—-WTF !!!

Arch Stanton
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1 month 14 days ago

MikeO
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1 month 14 days ago

So far, there is no question they are the worst. And they are not the least talented. It must be something else…

JRL
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1 month 14 days ago

The Cavs are playing a 90’s offense and a 2030’s defense – meaning no defense at all which is what everything kind of points to happening with the NBA as with the NFL.

Nate Smith
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1 month 14 days ago

From what I’ve seen in the last two games, this team could be historically bad.

JRL
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1 month 14 days ago

Unfortunate but true. We have enough talent to not be horrid but the coaching/schemes are at varsity levels.

Nate Smith
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1 month 14 days ago

If the front office prioritised playing Dekker over, well, anyone it just shows you how incompetent they are.

MikeO
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1 month 14 days ago

Great job, EG. The Cavs are playing like they have a Lebron to run the offense, even though they don’t. It’s mostly a bunch of dribbling around and scattershot bad jumpers. And turnovers. They won’t win a single game in the NBA this season playing like this.

Last in the NBA in threes combined with possibly the worst defense in the league won’t cut it.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 14 days ago

Golden State’s Stephen Curry has made more three’s (33) than the Cavs have as a team (28).

Jason
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1 month 14 days ago

I will say this again: Love is not the type if player you just give the ball to and get out of the way. He is a player that excels at scoring within an offense due to his versatility (post, shoot, pass, move).

Further, as a big, a good PG (Rubio, James) also helps.

He is not a traditional #1 option in that sense. But if you put him in a movement based offense with some shooting & decent PG play, get him some elbow touches, allow him to post smalls & shoot over bigs, 25/15 is not out of the question.

John B
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1 month 14 days ago

Not sure if there were any last night, but it seems like in the three games I watched they have run a grand total of zero elbow based sets for Love. How is that possible?

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 14 days ago

Great point here.

JRL
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1 month 14 days ago

You’re correct Jason. I wonder how long it will take Lue to figure that out?

Buuuuuutttt considering Lue is still okay with having his players pass the ball to TT downlow and letting him “do his thing”, after 3 seasons of evidence to suggest TT sucks, I don’t think Lue will ever figure it out.

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1 month 14 days ago

With Kyrie Irving on the team and no LeBron, the Cavs won 19, 21, 24, and 33 games. Kyrie on his own wasn’t great, but he was better than anyone on the Cavs roster in 2018. It’s a superstars league, and the Cavs have Kevin Love, who is not particularly good, and a bag of rocks. I said before the season I would take the under on a 30 win prediction and I think that’s safe. This year will be right around those first few Kyrie years. 20 wins this year is likely.

Arch Stanton
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1 month 14 days ago

4 games ago I predicted this to be a 35 win team. I’m now more comfortable saying they will be a 25 win team, or lower.

MikeO
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1 month 14 days ago

Playing as they are now, this team won’t sniff 20 wins. There will have to be dramatic improvement to think about 25.

Christopher
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Christopher
1 month 14 days ago

Just checked the current differentials, as per ESPN.com, concerning tonight’s game: the Pistons are making a little more than two three’s per game than their opponents, and taking a little more than three. The Cavs? MAKING eight fewer and TAKING thirteen fewer.

Arch Stanton
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1 month 14 days ago

Meanwhile, the front office and coaching staff are under pressure from ownership to play Sexton even more than he’s playing so far. Through four games, Sexton, the Cavs’ No. 8 pick, is averaging 10.3 points with .432 shooting in 23.3 minutes per game. – Vardon

Arch Stanton
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1 month 14 days ago

Here’s another thing I know. This team was feeling reasonably good about itself when it arrived home from the road trip, even with the 0-2 record. And then JR Smith, Kyle Korver and Channing Frye were told they weren’t going to play because the organization was going young. And it’s been a disaster since. – Per Joe Vardon

Arch Stanton
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1 month 14 days ago

The media continues to say that the front office and plays love Lue, and that it would have to take something drastic, like a record breaking losing streak, for them to fire him. I think we have Lue until the end of the year regardless.

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1 month 14 days ago

Did you just dare a record-breaking losing streak to show its face? Have you seen the Cavs’ schedule? I am not certain the Knicks, Mavs, or Kings look inviting now…

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 14 days ago

January will be really brutal. So it will be like any other January.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 14 days ago

“players” not “plays”

NOMAD
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1 month 14 days ago

I BET HE GOES FOR 40+——-JUST READ AT AMICO HOOPS/ QUOTE FROM TY—“WE ARE GOING TO KEEP TRYING DIFFERENT ROTATIONS “—-TY DOES THAT MEAN MORE PLAYING TIME FOR ANTE / NWABA /WOULD START EITHER LNJ OR ANTE AT POST—T.T. COMES OFF THE BENCH——I AM SO PISSED –I COULD —-SCREAM !!!!!!!!

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
1 month 14 days ago

Does Blake Griffin go for 50 again? If Blake can get 50, why not KLOVE? Remember he scored 35 in the first quarter a couple of years ago, of course Kyrie and LeBron were on the floor with him. I’m actually predicting a close game tonight, since the Cavs seem to play better on the road.

JRL
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1 month 14 days ago

Blake is faster, more athletic and has a competent coach.

NOMAD
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1 month 14 days ago

I WAS TRULY “OVERLY OPTOMISTIC—( ACTUALLY LYING TO MYSELF )—–HOPING THAT TY WITHOUT LEBRON’S SHADOW WOULD PROVE US ALL WRONG AND BE A LEGITIMATE NBA COACH——-I WAS WRONG !!!!—-NOT EVEN SURE IF HE IS GLEAGUE MATERIAL

Arch Stanton
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1 month 14 days ago

The evidence doesn’t look good. But it’s also only 4 games in. I’d give him 20-25 games to see if he can get them to improve or not.

Nate Smith
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1 month 14 days ago

These four games have been utterly incompetent.

Arch Stanton
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1 month 14 days ago

At least in the first 2 were competitive.

NOMAD
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1 month 14 days ago

WARRIORS FAN THANK YOU—-A CLASS ACT —MUCH APPRECIATED !!!——

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NOMAD
1 month 14 days ago

SCREAM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!———-HAVE ELECTED NOT TO WATCH THE GAMES LIVE—JUST FOLLOW THE CTB POST/ BOX SCORE—-THEN I CAN MAKE DECISION WHETHER OR NOT TO WATCH REPLAY LATER ( OR NOT WASTE MY TIME )—-SO FAR I HAVE WATCHED THE 1ST 2 GAMES ——MIGHT BE THE LAST I WATCH ALL SEASON—————REALLY IF WE ARE IN REBUILD MODE—–WHICH WE ALL CAN SEE THAT WE ARE ———FIRE TY / LONG-IN– BARF NOW !!!!!!!!—REBUILD WITH THE RIGHT COACHING STAFF WHO WILL COACH THESE PLAYERS UP / BRING THE TRUE POTENTIAL OUT———YEAH THERE WILL BE CHALLENGING NIGHTS —BUT I THINK AL L OF CAN LIVE WITH THAT AS LONG AS WE CAN SEE POSITIVE PROGRESS —-“LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL”——ALL I SEE NOW AT THE END OF THAT TUNNEL–IS TY / LONG-IN -BARF —SCREAM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Warriorsfan
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Warriorsfan
1 month 14 days ago

Just wanted to say hello to the fans here. I do read the blog and posts now and then and I have to say the writers and posters here are very passionate and knowledgeable. Hopefully, Cavs fans get some +ves out of this season. May be JR and TT will be traded or bought out and Sexton improves as season and Lue replaced by better coach. Good luck guys.

JRL
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JRL
1 month 14 days ago

Thanks!

JRL
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JRL
1 month 14 days ago

Thanks for the recap. Sorry you had to suffer through it all twice over.

Unfortunately I nothing will change until Lue/Longo are gone. They are inept at anything resembling professional basketball.

I had told myself this was going to be a difficult season and was ready for it but this is just beyond frustrating. To not run a specific play for KK to get open and take a 3 in the last 4 games is ridiculous. To have Tristan out there taking more shots than Love is stupid. To actually pass the ball to Tristan as if he’s going to do anything with it is even stupider.

I can go on and on but we all know what/who the problem is/are.

Jason
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Jason
1 month 14 days ago

Neither of our starting guards had an assist last night. Zero. TT gets more shots than Love. Nwaba & Zizic do not play.

Fire Lue & Longabarfi. How soon is too soon? 20 games? That pick looks safe.

Jason
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Jason
1 month 14 days ago

Less PT: Hood, TT, Clarkson, Dekker
More PT: Nwaba, Zizic

If we really are going to try and play fast, you can play 12-13 guys instead of 9-10.

James
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James
1 month 14 days ago

Great read as always. This season was always going to hinge on the coaching staff. The roster we have is easily as talented as other teams from years past who have gone 50% and played competent, competitive basketball. I appreciate that LeBron James can overrule any offensive scheme that is instilled (though he certainly didn’t in Miami), but to have a whole summer and not have developed a discernible offensive scheme or a defensive scheme that complements our players is inexcusable.

grover13
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grover13
1 month 14 days ago

Our point guard of the future through 4 games: 4 assists, 8 turnovers, zero steals.

Anonymous
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Anonymous
1 month 14 days ago

Dallas lost to Atlanta. Guess they should fire Carlisle

MikeO
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MikeO
1 month 14 days ago

They looked competent even though they lost. Wanna bet on the upcoming Hawks-Cavs game? Of course you don’t.

Nate Smith
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1 month 14 days ago

You’re so obvious.

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