Preseason Live Thread: Cavs vs. Celtics

It’s an Ohio sports night! With the Tribe taking on the Astros and the Buckeye battling the Hoosiers in the late afternoon, we’ll forgive you if you’re a little late tuning in to the Cavs tonight.

Still, it looks to be an interest lineup with a bunch of dude’s out of the lineup.

Still, it’s a good chance to look at what Collin Sexton, Sam Dekker, and Larry Nance would look like joining probable starters Cedi Osman and Rodney Hood from the tip. For the Celtics, Kyrie and Gordon Hayward didn’t make the trip.

So we’ll see if the Celtics look to avenge their moribund home performance from earlier this week, and how Collin controls the reigns from the tip. Hopefully our favorite Ohio teams have everything wrapped up by the time this starts. Go Cavs! Go Bucks! Go Tribe!

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Jason
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Jason
16 days 4 hours ago

Best guess at Lue’s thinking:

Starters: Hill, Hood, Cedi, Love, LNJ/TT.

2nd 5: Sexton, Clarkson, Korver, Dekker, TT/LNJ.

Last 3 active: JR, Nwaba, Zizic (and they all should play consistently).

Inactive most nights: Frye, Taylor

Two ways: Preston + 1 (Holland, Colson, Simmons, Randolph).

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
15 days 23 hours ago

I don’t think they hold onto Holland. He is what he is at this point.

Jason
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Jason
16 days 3 hours ago

Against teams with big frontcourts, Zizic plays more and Dekker less. TT over Nance to start.

Against smaller teams, Nance/Dekker & Nawaba play more. Less TT/Korver.

Questions are:
1) How long before younger players push their way up the depth chart? Sexton (starting), Zizic (2nd C), and Nwaba (top 9).

2) How long before we see some veteran trades? Korver, Hill, JR, TT.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
16 days 6 hours ago

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
16 days 6 hours ago

MikeO
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MikeO
16 days 12 hours ago

Didn’t get to see the game, but saw highlights. So another win over that horrible, annoying team, Smart making a complete ass out of himself yet again (and sounding like a dweeb 7th grader with his ‘meet me out by the swing set after school!’ nonsense), yet another JR meme (the waving bye bye)…not bad for a preseason game.

Scotch
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Scotch
16 days 14 hours ago

Can the city of cleveland put JR Smith on the side of a building? maybe creation it exactly the same way as lebron…we are all witnesses…something about him makes me want the entire Q to be wearing his jersey and watch him shoot Kobe level fg attempts and just see what happens.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
16 days 14 hours ago

Jason
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Jason
16 days 14 hours ago

If I am picking the team. Taylor is the 15th man as the #3 PG. I take Colson as a two way with Preston. He is not back in shape and his timing was off on O but he had 3/4 blocks on D. Holland is better right now but is 29/30 and we are loaded on the wing.

Simmons & Randolph are athletic, but neither can shoot or run the point & we are loaded on the wing. Though Korver, JR, & Hood could all be gone soon. Worth looking at.

Zizic has to get regular minutes. If teams go small, BBQ chicken.

Scotch
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Scotch
16 days 16 hours ago

Zizic makes TT look so unskilled. His hands are light years better. I still enjoyed TT telling the press that the east is still Cleveland’s until someone takes it from them tho…haha that was pretty great

Chris K
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Chris K
16 days 16 hours ago

Just checked the stats. Happy to see two games with Celts is two too many for them. Throwing out a question, though: Sexton’s got only two assists in 42 minutes of play. Concern? The team only has 28 over two games as well. Same concern?

Jason
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Jason
16 days 14 hours ago

Nope. He was a willing passer. Got some guys open looks and they missed. If Love/Korver/Hill are with him instead of Dekker/Hood/Taylor he has more dimes.

He is not a Clarkson/Westbrook/Irving type on offense. Nor Marbury. Has a lot if work to do but his mentality is not Mamba/AI.

Scotch
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Scotch
16 days 15 hours ago

I’m a little concerned now that you say it about Sexton, but we dont have the same kind of knock down shooting team we have had recently. Assists will need to be more of a team thing and less of a one or two players get them all thing if we are going to score a lot. Like…the spurs.

CLF
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CLF
16 days 12 hours ago

I was actually going to invoke the Spurs name with respect to how the offense looks now. They never have a high assist guy… just the whole team with 3-5 assists.

Chris K
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Chris K
16 days 15 hours ago

Agreed–hopefully, KLove will feed others at the elbow, Cedi and GHill can work off the dribble, and the team pushes the tempo, because Clarkson and Sexton are not going to run a conventional half-court set the way a traditional PG would. Lue probably is relieved to develop an offense not so dependent on one player..

Scotch
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Scotch
16 days 15 hours ago

Ugh…I am so down on Lue. I really hope it was lebron that derailed his sets cuz if not we are so screwed

Jason
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Jason
16 days 14 hours ago

Odd after we looked so good for two games.

Scotch
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Scotch
16 days 14 hours ago

Preseason means less than nothing in every pro sport. There is zero correlation with how a team plays in preseason and how they fare when it matters.

CLF
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CLF
16 days 16 hours ago

Not a concern IMO for either Sexton or the offense in general. There’s so much ball/man movement… no one’s dominating the ball. Also, some wide open shots have been missed.

Chris K
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Chris K
16 days 15 hours ago

Thanks, CLF. I fear I won’t see enough games to make a call on this–and preseason basketball lacks familiar team positioning/lineups… but a LeBron-centric team will really need to shed some of the past four years’ habits. I am hoping Sexton keys more ball movement, but I wonder if his game is suited to do so…

CLF
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CLF
16 days 12 hours ago

I think Sexton’s main role will be to attack the paint and score… like Tony Parker’s game. IMO shots will be created by the offensive design with man/ball movement, not individual playmakers.

NOMAD
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NOMAD
16 days 16 hours ago

PRESTON / BONZI TO CANTON —–BETWEEN SIMMONS / TAYLOR FIGHT IT OUT FOR ROSTER SPOT ———–ALTHOUGH STILL WAY TOO EARLY—HAS ANYONE CHANGED THEIR OPIN ION ON DEKKER ?

Jason
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Jason
16 days 14 hours ago

He was good tonight. No doubt about it.

CLF
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CLF
16 days 15 hours ago

No opinion change on Dekker… he still needs to prove he can hit 3 point shots on a consistent basis for me to think he’s an NBA player.

JRL
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JRL
16 days 15 hours ago

Dekker reminds me of a poor man’s Chandler Parsons. So yeah, not good.

CLF
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CLF
16 days 12 hours ago

A very poor man’s Parsons LOL.

NOMAD
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NOMAD
16 days 16 hours ago

LIKE HOLLAND BUT HE HAS REACHED HIS CEILING——-GO WITH YOUTH / ATHLETICISM —–CUT THE CORD WITH HOLLAND

NOMAD
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NOMAD
16 days 16 hours ago

” ZZ” —–TY YOU NEED TO GIVE THIS KID MINUTES THIS YEAR !!!!——GO CAVS !!

JRL
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JRL
16 days 16 hours ago

Somebody must want the Kardashian circus and will be willing to take TT to make it happen. Charlotte maybe???

JRL
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JRL
16 days 16 hours ago

Zz shook off the first game rust and is back to where he was in summer league. Kid’s got talent.

CLF
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CLF
16 days 16 hours ago

He’s only 21… there’s at least 3 or 4 years of growth that can happen… he’ll always be limited by his athleticism, but he’s got skills.

JRL
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JRL
16 days 16 hours ago

I said it during his run last season, he’s a B level P. Gasol in my eyes. He knows where to roll, blocks hard, has a soft touch around the basket and can get to the rim from the free throw line.

He needs to work on a mid-range shot and footwork. Then it’s all about proper usage.

CLF
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CLF
16 days 16 hours ago

thaat would be awesome… Gasol underrated defensive player.

CLF
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CLF
16 days 16 hours ago

Simmons with the drive!!!

CLF
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CLF
16 days 16 hours ago

Preston with the fade away jumper!!!

CLF
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CLF
16 days 16 hours ago

ZIZIC. TOO EASY.

CLF
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CLF
16 days 16 hours ago

Colson with tremendous hops and the block!!!!

CLF
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CLF
16 days 16 hours ago

Really disappointed with Simmons. He was brilliant in summer league and just nothing so far in pre-season

CLF
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CLF
16 days 16 hours ago

Zizic ball fake and strong finish with the hook shot!!!!! That was some quickness too!!!

CLF
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CLF
16 days 16 hours ago

Isaiah Taylor nice hesitation move but can’t finish

CLF
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CLF
16 days 16 hours ago

Zizic cleaning glass and finishing!

CLF
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CLF
16 days 16 hours ago

Ouch zizic takes a knee to the stomach

Simmo
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Simmo
16 days 16 hours ago

Unable to watch the game – any feel on Holland re: improvement from last season?

CLF
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CLF
16 days 16 hours ago

He’s the same… Tho he’s been on a little roll since the latter half of summer league

Simmo
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Simmo
16 days 16 hours ago

Thanks CLF

CLF
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CLF
16 days 16 hours ago

You’re welcome

John B
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John B
16 days 17 hours ago

Have a feeling we have seen the last of the guys who will actually be on the Cavs this year save maybe Frye. Doubt any come back in for the 4th.

CLF
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CLF
16 days 17 hours ago

Holland coast to coast!

CLF
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CLF
16 days 17 hours ago

Simmons gotta work on ball handling

CLF
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CLF
16 days 17 hours ago

Nice hustle defense colson!!!

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
16 days 17 hours ago

Did one of the Rookie Celtics eat Kyrie?

CLF
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CLF
16 days 17 hours ago

Nice hustle defense Simmons

CLF
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CLF
16 days 17 hours ago

Frye with the post up!!!

CLF
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CLF
16 days 17 hours ago

Frye to Simmons!!!!!

John B
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John B
16 days 17 hours ago

No thanks to having colson on my team. A guy fighting for his NBA career doesn’t even hustle back on the turnover leadung layup. Just let rozier jog right past him. Didn’t even foul him while he was still in front of him. You can’t show me that kind of effort even in preseason if you are a non-nba player trying to make a roster.

CLF
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CLF
16 days 17 hours ago

Nice drive Simmons

Jason
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Jason
16 days 17 hours ago

Zizic looking real good.

Jason
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Jason
16 days 17 hours ago

Colson in. JR getting silly.

CLF
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CLF
16 days 17 hours ago

Isaiah Taylor with the tough finish!!!

John B
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John B
16 days 17 hours ago

Zizc has legit post skills

CLF
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CLF
16 days 17 hours ago

Clarkson of the dribble!!!

CLF
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CLF
16 days 17 hours ago

Another finish zizic!!!! And Clarkson on the break!!!

John B
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John B
16 days 17 hours ago

Zizic is 10x more skilled than TT even at pinning a small for a layup entry pass.

CLF
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CLF
16 days 17 hours ago

Zizic with post up and finish!

West coast cav
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West coast cav
16 days 17 hours ago

ZZ is killing the Celtics

West coast cav
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West coast cav
16 days 17 hours ago

Preston is raw, but what a find. The guy could have been a lottery pick with a year of college to develop.

CLF
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CLF
16 days 17 hours ago

Nice ball fake and drive by Preston… But had terrible finishing strong at the rim… Saw the same thing in summer league

Chris K
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Chris K
16 days 16 hours ago

Will we see 20 minutes a game from him this year? Will Lue trust him?

CLF
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CLF
16 days 12 hours ago

No way. He’ll be in for garbage time.. if he even plays.

CLF
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CLF
16 days 17 hours ago

Trouble not terrible

Jason
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Jason
16 days 17 hours ago

Ranking the roster: Love, Cedi, Sexton, Nance, JR, Korver, Hill, TT, Nwaba, Hood, Clarkson, Dekker, Frye, Zizic.

Zizic almost single handedly has us in the bonus.

CLF
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CLF
16 days 17 hours ago

Cavs 3rd string owning the Celtics starters lmao ooooooo

CLF
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CLF
16 days 17 hours ago

Nice read Clarkson !

CLF
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CLF
16 days 17 hours ago

Jr with the fade away!!!!

CLF
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CLF
16 days 17 hours ago

Preston with the pure mid range j!!!

CLF
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CLF
16 days 17 hours ago

Nice read and pass by Jr

MikeO
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MikeO
16 days 17 hours ago

I haven’t had a chance to watch any of the game tonight, but I hope Bill Simmons is enjoying it.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
16 days 17 hours ago

I’m sure he’s watching the Red Sox.

MikeO
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MikeO
16 days 16 hours ago

Oh, I’m sure he’s sitting in front of a wall of tv’s. One tv for every sporting event.

CLF
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CLF
16 days 17 hours ago

Zizic with the finish! And 1!!!

John B
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John B
16 days 17 hours ago

Sorry my comments are behind. Started after it was live. Dekker is not a great player, but I loved seeing him juke Tatum out of his shoes.

Jason
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Jason
16 days 17 hours ago

Celtics are thugs. Olynyk. Crowder. Smart. Baynes. Horford. And then there is Kyrie. Other than Hayward, not much to like.

Meanwhile, looks like Taylor is the favorite for spot #15. Preston + 1 on the two way spots.

Phil Hubbard
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Phil Hubbard
16 days 17 hours ago

Maybe someday the NBA can include trying to yank a guy’s arm off as a flagrant foul? Just a thought.

West coast cav
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West coast cav
16 days 17 hours ago

I know it’s just preseason ball, but do we have the Celtics number? They look to be playing hard and playing their starters for the most part. Cavs punching them in the face two first halves now.

NOMAD
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NOMAD
16 days 17 hours ago

KEEP DREAMIN ARCH—HOPE THEY ALL COME TRUE FOR YOU -(US )

Jason
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Jason
16 days 17 hours ago

Still screwed out of a point on that obvious Cedi 3. Should be 58.

CLF
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CLF
16 days 17 hours ago

Man nice pass Nance but hood can’t knock down the wide open 3

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
16 days 17 hours ago

My dream scenario is that the Cavs play the Celtics in Round 1 and upset them, and Kyrie leaves for the Knicks, then misses out on the playoffs the following year. Plus the Lakers don’t make the playoffs and Draymond kicks Durant in the nutts, as they lose to Utah in the Semis.

CLF
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CLF
16 days 17 hours ago

CEDI OFF THE DRIBBLE PURE!!!

Phil Hubbard
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Phil Hubbard
16 days 17 hours ago

Cedi for three! Nice and easy.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
16 days 17 hours ago

Wtf are the Indians doing?

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
16 days 17 hours ago

WTF = Not Awesome

John B
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John B
16 days 18 hours ago

Baynes is a thug. Pulling an Olynick. Given the similarities seems Stevens is coaching his guys to yank guys arms like that on boxouts. Boy he is dirty.

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