From Distance: Luka Say What Now?

four point play….

1. In today’s vlog, my head explodes over the possibility that Luka Doncic could have been a Cav.

2. I contrast Collin Sexton’s defensive ceiling to Luka Doncic’s underrated athleticism, and talk about some technical skills they need to acquire.

3. I go on record saying Doncic will be a superstar and toss out some Sexton comps based on what we have seen so far.

4. At minute 15, (for the love of basketball, that was a long vlog), I break down Billy Preston’s shot form. Then I bid you all adieu again. I really gotta stop doing that.

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JMay
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4 months 3 days ago

New small post up for the return of Channing!

Nate Smith
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4 months 3 days ago

That’s some weird geometry in the framing, Ben!

Nate Smith
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4 months 3 days ago

Almost weird 70s Sci fi style.

JRL
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JRL
4 months 3 days ago

It truly is. Great visuals!

If one was to draw/paint a few lines following the angularity of the vertical walls with the light as its source of origin, could give the room an infinity feel.

Great room! I would love to have a reading room with that type of character.

Nate Smith
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4 months 3 days ago

Didn’t get to watch till now. Good stuff.

Nate Smith
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4 months 3 days ago

Loved that video, Ben! Thanks for the Preston breakdown. Really like the upside from an undrafted free agent.

Nate Smith
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4 months 3 days ago

RJ and Delly. Let’s make this happen.

Nate Smith
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4 months 3 days ago

Anonymous
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Anonymous
4 months 3 days ago

FRYE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MikeO
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MikeO
4 months 3 days ago

Awesome! And I don’t understand why the Lakers didn’t keep him. Guess he doesn’t fit in with their plan of washed up gritty vets who can’t shoot and who may in fact be actual sociopaths…

Slammin Sam
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Slammin Sam
4 months 3 days ago

Nice! I’m not sure he’s too useful here but I don’t care!

JOHN B
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JOHN B
4 months 3 days ago

Good mentor for the young guys. Great locker room presence. Good way to start a rebuild is having vets that are positive influences around the young kids. Can’t be much more of a positive influence than Frye.

Nate Smith
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4 months 3 days ago

CLF
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CLF
4 months 3 days ago

I’m ready for T’Wolves KLOVE with a ring and chip on his shoulder.

Nate Smith
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4 months 3 days ago

Pure class.

Jason
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Jason
4 months 4 days ago

So, twenty for camp?

1. Sexton, 2. Hill, 3. Cedi, 4. Love, 5. Nance; 6. Clarkson, 7. JR, 8. Korver, 9. TT, 10. Zizic (all for certain unless a trade happens):
11. Perkins, 12. White, 13. Preston, 14. Holland, 15. Hood, 16. Lee, 17. Colson, + 3 more (or more if some trades happen): Mathias, Artis, + 1 ?

JRL
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JRL
4 months 4 days ago

Rumors of Jabari Parker heading to Chicago. I wish him health. He could be a good player if healthy.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
4 months 4 days ago

Outside of Embiid that 2014 draft class is looking pretty weak.

Blip
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Blip
4 months 3 days ago

Embiid is one of the NBA’s best. Jokic is really good. Gordon and Saric are definitely solid. Wiggins, the #1 pick is mediocre but still young and talented. Seems like a typical draft in my view?

believeLAND
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believeLAND
4 months 4 days ago

I’ll take Sexton, I’m happy with him. Let’s move forward and build this roster.

JRL
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JRL
4 months 4 days ago

Sexton – SexTown – SexLand 😎

Charlie E
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Charlie E
4 months 4 days ago

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
4 months 4 days ago

This is cool. Cavs excuse Ante Zizic from Summer League so he can return to native Croatia for World Cup final @clevelanddotcom https://t.co/donLxVE4cY

— Joe Vardon (@joevardon) July 13, 2018

Jason
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Jason
4 months 4 days ago

Hopefully we are still playing after Sunday.

Charlie E
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Charlie E
4 months 4 days ago

Awesome! Maybe he can pick up some that indomitable Croatian spirit from the futballers, sad as I was to see England lose, credit to those guys for powering through game after game.

newnomad
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newnomad
4 months 4 days ago

slammin sam–sexton is only 19—still could grow some –possibly–2-3 inches —wingspan also

John B
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John B
4 months 4 days ago

Possible but unlikely. That would be cool though.

Jack
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Jack
4 months 4 days ago

Like…. really unlikely. Hardly anybody gets any taller at that age.

EvilGenius
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4 months 4 days ago

John B
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John B
4 months 4 days ago

Brutal. Hehehe.

EvilGenius
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4 months 4 days ago

EvilGenius
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4 months 4 days ago

Slammin Sam
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Slammin Sam
4 months 4 days ago

Also is Sexton undersized for a point guard? 1 inch shorter than Kyrie and 3 inches longer wingspan. Taller than Chris Paul, 3 inches longer wingspan. Taller than Lowry, 5 inches longer wingspan.

Jack
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Jack
4 months 4 days ago

The knock on his height isn’t that he can’t guard PG’s or even SG’s, it’s that Paul and Lowry, while great defenders, came up in the league before they really started the whole switch everything scheme and you really started seeing shorter guys get exploited in the playoffs by SF’s like Lebron, KD and Giannis. That said, Chris Paul is such a tenacious and smart defender that he held his own on switches against the Warriors, and Lowry is still basically in immovable object on defense, so I think there is hope for Sexton if he makes it a priority, since he has a somewhat similar build to them.

They both use their bulk and low center of gravity to get up underneath guys who try to post them up. And Chris Paul specifically uses his quick hands and total lack of shame to basically everybody he guards miserable.

CLF
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CLF
4 months 4 days ago

According to Google, average NBA PG is 6’2”… so looks like he’s average.

CLF
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CLF
4 months 4 days ago

*with shoes.

Nate Smith
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4 months 4 days ago

I’m on the fence about Doncic. Some days I love him, some days I think he’ll be very pedestrian.

CLF
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CLF
4 months 4 days ago

HAHA… the truth is probably somewhere in between? I don’t think he’ll be pedestrian… the best comp I’ve seen was Paul Pierce. I find that to be a pretty reasonable ceiling for him.

Nate Smith
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4 months 4 days ago

No way. He and Paul are radically different. Mullin might be a good comp.

Nate Smith
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4 months 3 days ago

Nice comp. Pierce probably a bit longer. Joe Johnson possibly a decent comp too.

CLF
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CLF
4 months 4 days ago

Mullin and Pierce are nearly identical statistically. I’d say both are reasonable comps… maybe a blend between the two lol. Mullin listed at 200 lbs., Doncic at 220, Pierce at 235.

West coast cav
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West coast cav
4 months 4 days ago

It’s fine to have hypothetical conversations, but reality is the only real world comparison is between Trae Young and Doncic. That was the true exchange. If you want to compare Sexton with everyone picked afterward it appears in the very short sample of summer games that the Cavs have made a good decision. Sexton is an honor roll student, athletically gifted, and motivated hard worker. Those qualities are precursors to success. Doncic has been groomed professionally for years, Sexton hasn’t evolved anywhere near his potential. Yes he’s six foot with a slightly longer wing span which is short for the nba, but he has the heart of a lion.

CLF
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CLF
4 months 4 days ago

Good point… I’d argue Young’s the better passer, shooter, and off-the-dribble, but will be a complete zero on defense. Doncic will be able to guard the post, adds an offensive dimension in posting up, and can finish around the rim with a lot more ease.

Edge goes to Doncic because he’s not a zero on defense, how much so remains to be seen.

Jack
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Jack
4 months 4 days ago

I don’t think Trae Young is the better passer. He can’t make cross-court passes the way Doncic’s height and strength allow him to.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
4 months 4 days ago

Completely agree with this statement.

Raoul
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Raoul
4 months 4 days ago

+2

warriorsfan
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warriorsfan
4 months 4 days ago

I have Doncic as best player in this draft also. Trae Young has been showing some great PG skills in the summer league too. How about Knox ? He has been amazing.

EvilGenius
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4 months 4 days ago

Charlie E
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Charlie E
4 months 4 days ago

Great vlog, per usual. I don’t know that it’s worth spending too much energy on the deal that didn’t happen, unless you really have a blow by blow and you can say that the Cavs turned something down. The Mavs had every advantage in making the trade because their pick was so much higher.

I think a more reasonable question is whether the Cavs should have taken a more NBA-obvious physical package like Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, instead of going with the intangibles and undersize in Sexton.

If nothing else, we should expect to see some fight from the Cavs this year. I don’t think they’ll get down on themselves the way the Kyrie teams of 2011-12 did.

MikeO
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MikeO
4 months 4 days ago

Good points. It’s hard to be too critical of ‘what if’ trades…no one outside the teams can really know how serious the talks were, and how close they were to completion. I agree with Ben, you do that trade all day if it was possible, but it may not have been in any way close.

I wasn’t too hot on SGA, but he has the size for sure. I think the Cavs interest in him was on ice after he said he didn’t want to play in Cleveland.

Charlie E
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Charlie E
4 months 4 days ago

Gah — you’re right MikeO — I keep forgetting that about SGA’s giving the Cavs the cold shoulder. Fine. We will roll with the Sexmachine.

Raoul
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Raoul
4 months 5 days ago

Go Cavs!

Bob Sponge
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Bob Sponge
4 months 5 days ago

Like most prospects, it’s all speculation. I like Doncic and think he’s likely the best player from this last draft. But… The cost of getting him is greater than most are making it seem. If Doncic is an all NBA player in the future? It’s a no brainer. If he’s a consistent all-star? Probably a good move. Anything less? A disaster.

JRL
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Slammin Sam
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Slammin Sam
4 months 5 days ago

(Bill Simmons, finishing his edit of the article)
“I like it Paolo, but can we work in a ‘God still hates Cleveland’ at the end there? Also can you find a Celtics angle? Maybe a trade proposal where the Celts get Kevin Love for Brian Scalabrine and 2 seconds?”

MikeO
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MikeO
4 months 4 days ago

“Who says no?”. Although to be fair, Simmons would never throw in two seconds in that trade, one at most.

Anonymous
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Anonymous
4 months 4 days ago

Hahaha 😁

Excl
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4 months 4 days ago

*laugh*

Slammin Sam
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Slammin Sam
4 months 5 days ago

I don’t think anybody isn’t arguing that Sexton is a better prospect than Doncic right? If the Mavericks are sending a likely lottery pick to move up two spots do you really think the Cavs were getting to move up 5 spots for cap relief and a relaxing of pick protections? And who the hell would the Hawks have been taking at 8? None of it makes sense. Also not sure why Doncic having a 31% 3 shot is somehow a positive but Sexton being a competent midrange jump shooter is a negative. If anything the fact that Sexton shows good form on his midrange and is a proficient FT shooter bodes well for his 3 shooting.

Slammin Sam
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Slammin Sam
4 months 5 days ago

Sorry “is arguing”

Jason
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Jason
4 months 5 days ago

The details on the trade are fuzzy, but I am with you on Doncic. Best player in the draft.

John B
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John B
4 months 4 days ago

Maybe. In literally any other era, Ayton is the absolute sure think best player. Still might be. Gotta see Doncic play in summer league/NBA defenses, not that summer league is great d (schematically , but guys try hard and many are hyper athletic).

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