Podcast Episode 178: LeBrexit

Well… LeBron James is gone. Again.

To process this new reality… Nate, Tom, Eli and EG commiserated in the podcast booth. We discuss why we think it happened, who’s to blame, whether it was a basketball or lifestyle move, if the Lakers are now contenders, what happens now with the future of the Cavs, and how this move affects LeBron’s ultimate legacy. So, all in all a pretty cheery listen. In all seriousness though, here’s hoping listening to us vent a little might help you all with your own venting process… and be a reminder to cherish the good times.

As always, you can catch us above, on Soundcloud, Apple Podcasts or Google Play.

And, as always GO CAVS!

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Jack
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Jack
2 months 14 days ago
These Lakers signings are insane… If the Lakers are making these types of moves, they must have Lebron’s blessing and told him their plan, and Lebron must be angling to pick up a twilight championship or 2 as the 3rd or 4th best player on a championship team instead of the sun and moon after the Warriors (MAYBE) lose some guys to a financial crunch. On the one hand, it would have been nice if he put that kind of trust in the Cavs, but I can understand if he didn’t think that the Cavs could attract the right kind of talent down the line without Kyrie already established alongside him. I wonder what would have happened if the Cavs had gained more financial flexibility with the Kyrie trade. They could have either forced TT’s deal down the Celtics’ throat, or traded Kyrie to Phoenix, forced them to send Tyson Chandler’s expiring for TT, along with Bledsoe and Bender and used the deal with Boston as leverage to get them to include the 2020 Miami pick, maybe even Shump for Dudley. They might have still gone to the finals and would have been able to pitch Lebron a future with… Read more »
Vintage
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Vintage
2 months 14 days ago

But a large part of why they had a harder time attracting talent was that LeBron wouldn’t commit in the first place. It’s a self-fulfilling prophecy for LeBron to justify leaving because the Cavs couldn’t get the right players. Fact is, Gilbert spent more money than any other owner and I see no reason that would change.

Jack
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Jack
2 months 14 days ago

No, that’s just a false narrative. The reason why they couldn’t attract talent is because they were capped out. They had Kyrie, they re-signed Kevin Love, and then they had no cap space.

Name one time they had cap space for a marquee free agent.

MikeO
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MikeO
2 months 14 days ago

Well, they apparently could have had PG, but Lebron refused to commit past his last season. That tells me he was gone no matter what the Cavs could have done.

Jack
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Jack
2 months 13 days ago

That was Dan Gilbert trying to pull a power play on Lebron and Lebron wasn’t having any of it. If Dan Gilbert really cared about winning a championship and thought that was the best move to win one, then he would have pulled the trigger knowing that Lebron and PG13 aren’t walking away from a championship over the Warriors.

Not to mention 2 of the best NBA reporters in the game say Lebron “aggressively recruited George behind the scenes last summer, selling him on a future together in Cleveland,” so there goes your theory.

Why are so many of you dead set on defending Dan Gilbert in all of this? The guy ripped apart a successful front office in Lebron’s contract year, mixed his personal feelings with business with “The Letter,” passed up a slam dunk trade because of his ego and then somehow blew another with the Pacers and was passive aggressively pushing Lebron out of town all year with his comments.

Vintage
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Vintage
2 months 14 days ago

They need IT to balance out the height of their roster…

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Game’s over…. Jackson bounces back after a bad game last night…. looked great tonight. Giles with a tough game…. he needs to be stronger with the ball, and more patient, but good activity tonight. Bagley with a tough shooting night…. missed some easy shots and shot a couple of bad shots. But he never quit, his activity level was sky high, especially on defense. Needs to develop his right hand finishes, NBA knows he loves going left. Frank Mason with some flashes of solid play, but too inconsistent and needs to run the offense a lot better. Good fight in him though.

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Bad defense there by Jackson… got caught in the air.

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Bagley with the rejection!!! Bad call by the refs.

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

NICE PNR!!! MASON TO BAGLEY…. GREAT FINISH BY BAGLEY!

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Bagley terrible decision…. needs to drive the ball in a 1v1 situation. Takes the bad jumper instead.

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Bagley running the break! Jackson with the miss, Giles with the offensive rebound!

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Love the fight Bagley’s showing…. shooting horribly…. but great post defense, gets the block, one man fast break, then finishes with the and 1. Mason with a fantastic finish on the ensuing possession!

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Nice block by Bagley, nice pass by Mason, nice finish by Jackson!

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Wow…. Jordan Bell with the one handed put back… huge swing in the game. lead back up to 16.

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Mason gets the and 1…. can’t believe the refs actually get it right! Bagley struggling with his shot tonight…. Giles out of rhythm as well so far here.

Nate Smith
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2 months 14 days ago

Mason and Jackson look like the best players his game. GS defense locked in. I gotta sleep.

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Yup agreed… goodnight I’m here till the bloody end lol!

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Jackson for 3!!!

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Bagley gets the nice dumpoff, doesn’t finish strong.

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Evans with a nice offensive rebound…. pure desire there.

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

I like Bagley’s aggression, but way too predictable on the block… needs a right hand go to move.

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Nice defensive play Giles… active hands!

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

JACKSON ON FIRE!

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Bagley out of control on the block…. and terrible inbounds pass!

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Nice defense by Giles! Way to move your feet!

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Nice aggressive move by Jackson…. draws the foul.

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

AND AGAIN!!! Mason draws the clear path???

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Nice steal and finish by Mason!

Nate Smith
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2 months 14 days ago

Sent you another email.

Nate Smith
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2 months 14 days ago

Harry giles with a lot of activity. Can’t shoot so far though.

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Yup…. made those last night. But impressed with how he’s look so far considering the layoff. But he’s gotta stay healthy… soon as he gets it going, he busts a knee. Same thing happened at Duke.

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Mason with a nice off the dribble 3!

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Slow feet by Giles on that foul…. gotta read the angle and slide the feet.

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Giles nice floater in the lane off the PnR! Mason with the assist.

Nate Smith
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2 months 14 days ago

Without fox, this is pretty brutal for the Kings.

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

For real…. ugly, ugly start.

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Wow… JP Tokoto with a three….. uber athletic wing from UNC.

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

D’Aaron Fox is sorely missed by Sacramento tonight.

Nate Smith
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2 months 14 days ago

Magette been a g league standout for a while. 8 quick ones so far for him. Looks sharp.

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

To be clear, Nice observation Nate, screw GSW lol

Nate Smith
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2 months 14 days ago

Eh. He shot 37% in g league. He’ll never make the nba.

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Gotcha…. figured you just meant this game anyway lol!

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Nice pick up…. was wondering who that guy was.

Nate Smith
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2 months 14 days ago

Assist master last few years I think.

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Evans jumper is ugly….

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Nice ball movement by GSW…. screw them. JACKSON WITH A SWEET TURNAROUND JUMPER!

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Bagley gets rejected… NBA players know he can’t finish with his right hand…. major area of work if he wants to be elite.

Nate Smith
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2 months 14 days ago

Tribe win their third straight.

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Bagley with great 1v1 post defense!

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Harry Giles with active hands!!! Bagley misses first couple of jumpers.

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Harry Giles nice start! Nice little putback!

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Jackson comes out firing! Jacob Evans airballs the first shot I see from him lol…. NICE STEAL HARRY GILES!

Nate Smith
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2 months 14 days ago

Tribe trying to give one away in KC while I wait for sacramento.

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

JJJ did better work inside tonight, and looked more active on defense. Disappeared in the 2nd half though…. needs to be more aggressive on both sides, too much finesse in his game right now. If he’s more aggressive, he can be a star. Simmons has had two good games, look out for him. Carter a few bad mistakes, but great defense and a few good offensive plays. Selden was a bit of a chucker tonight, but also made plays… interesting to see if builds on tonight.

Niang improved since last year…. look out for him… he can shoot, pass, defend, and rebound. Bradley improved, but needs to work on his shooting to see minutes.

Nate Smith
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2 months 14 days ago

Sent you an email

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Checking now!

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
2 months 14 days ago

Jimmy Butler, the workaholic who grinded from being a 30th overall pick to becoming a superstar, doesn't like the guy who stays up until 4 a.m. playing Fortnight and sometimes doesn't know what team the Wolves are playing the day of the game? I for one am shocked. https://t.co/aDQVZ2iphk

— Ti Windisch (@TiWindisch) July 3, 2018

TV63
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TV63
2 months 14 days ago

Hmmmm Where have we seen this before? Last July… disgruntled superstar dissing on another star player to get off the team and go elsewhere?? Where or where did Jimmy get that idea? Why yes it’s from his best bud, Kyrie

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

WOW…. that’s an indictment. Not sure if I totally buy it; last I recall, literally no perimeter was willing to feed KAT inside even though he dominated Houston.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
2 months 14 days ago

Apparently the Wolves locker room is a mess. I could see Kyrie, and Jimmy joining Portzingas in NYC.

Vintage
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Vintage
2 months 14 days ago

That would be fun to watch

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

That’d be pretty cool… I could totally buy their locker room strife, surprised no one’s taking shots at Teague… IMO he was the problem.

Anonymous
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Anonymous
2 months 14 days ago

and Durant, don’t forget Durant. He is going there too.

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Bad inbounds pass by JJJ, doesn’t matter….. great game!

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Selden with the dagger! Nice drive.

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

CARTER LOSES THE BALL! NIANG GETS AND FINISHES!

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Jazz no weakside help…. costly bucket given up.

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Carter’s pressure looks like forced a TO.

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

SIMMONS WITH A CLUTCH MIDRANGE J!

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

NIANG WITH THE DRIVE AND HOOK SHOT FINISH!!! 1 POINT GAME!

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Selden gets a lucky call, that was a charge.

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Bradley with great perimeter defense…. JJJ with a missed three, kicked his legs out AGAIN…. JAZZ TAKE THE LEAD! WOW SELDEN WITH THE MIDRANGE!

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

CARTER WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!?!?! Terrible pass!!! No reason for that.

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

NIANG IN THE HIGH POST!!! GREAT PASS!!! BRADLEY CURL CUT AND FINISH WITH THE AND 1!!! Terrible foul by Carter.

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Carter with the miss…. Niang out of control, JJJ with good defense…. intensity right now!

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

If Memphis were actually gameplanning, they need to call a number for JJJ/Carter PnR or JJJ post-up.

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Bradley with the catch in traffic and FINISH!!! 4 POINT GAME!!!

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Niang with the rebound, break, and assist!!!

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Simmons nice defensive play… Memphis needed that.

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Niang great defense and block on Carter!!!

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Jevon Carter with a beautiful PnR pass!!! easy bucket!

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Fantastic post move by JJJ!!! Best he’s looked inside! Needs to do it more!

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

JJJ with much better activity on the defensive end than last night IMO.

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

nice pass Selden.

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Nice curl cut by JJJ, nice moves, but didn’t finish strong at the rim…. and compounds error with foul.

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Selden has also had a solid game…. a forgotten name from Kansas.

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Simmons with two solid games in a row….. Carter, JJJ, Simmons been the best they have these past two games.

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

Niang has improved since last year…. just rebounded and ran the break to perfection there.

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

NIANG FOR THREE!!! 20 point comeback! down to single digits.

CLF
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CLF
2 months 14 days ago

I like how JJJ doesn’t really force anything on offense… plays controlled. Sometimes a little too passive and floats on the perimeter.

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