Finals Live Thread Game 4: Cavs vs Warriors (Evolve or Die)

The Cavs already rendered the Raptors extinct, and if they don’t evolve, this incarnation of the Cavs will go the way of the dinosaurs as well. It’s true. No team has ever come back from a 3-0 deficit, in the NBA playoffs, let alone the finals, but that’s no reason not to try. We all thought this series was going seven games anyway. Why even play the game if it’s a foregone conclusion? And we also all know that LeBron James like to “conserve energy” in lost causes rather than waste it in hard fought defeats, but if he’s saving energy for the offseason, then I’ll be disappointed.

What do the Cavs have to do to evolve? The Cavs didn’t lose game three because Kevin Durant scored 43 points, they lost game three because Andre Igoudala, Shaun Livingston, Jordan Bell, and JaVale McGee went for 36 on 21 shots. The Cavs have to communicate better on the pick and roll defense, and have to start chucking the roller. If they don’t this one will be over quickly. Additionally, they have to rest James, get Kyle Korver shots, and keep working the ball to Kevin Love. I’ve given up on Playing Cedi, but I’m at least hoping that if they play Rodney Hood, he defends better.

This game’s a little worrisome because Golden State hasn’t had a game where all three of their role players are “on” for a night, and expect Steph Curry to come out gunning after being very disappointed in the Game 3 performance that may have cost him a finals MVP. Meanwhile, Kevin Durant came out today and said that he doesn’t think LeBron James would accept a Finals MVP trophy in a losing cause.

I’m sure LeBron wouldn’t accept that. I mean, he’s a winner. He’s a winner. I don’t look at him as a guy that would be OK with that.

It sure sounds to me like he wants that trophy for himself. A good trash talker could exploit that rift and internal rivalry between KD and Steph. A good man to do it? The Cavs’ own Kendrick Perkins who flipped Durant the Bird after game 3. Kendrick knows Durant well from their OKC years and he knew Durant was rolling Wednesday.

When he hit his first four shots, and none of them hit the rim and they were all from different areas, I was like, ‘Man, we can’t continue to let him play like this.’ He kept them in the game, big shot after big shot.

There is a petition on Change.org to let Perk play in game 4 sponsored by Fresh Brewed Tees, and if there’s anyone who’d touch up a hot shooter, it’s Kendrick. I’d say it’s worth a shot. The Cavs have to start roughing guys up if they want to win. Well, game time is here. We’ll see if LeBron’s really the King or if he’s going to roll over. Here’s hoping his reign continues for at least one more game. If the Cavs win tonight, they’re down 3-1. And we all know what can happen then…

Go Cavs!

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Jason
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2 months 6 days ago

I have not scoured the league, but perhaps someone who has a long term contract with someone decides to blow it up & start over & we get a discount by taking on bad salary and/or the #8 or with contracts that expire sooner (TT, JR, Clarkson).

The dumb guys have to go or play less. Dumb gets you beat vs GSW. And Boston.

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2 months 6 days ago
If Lebron doesn’t come back, Cavs should tank for couple of years, buyout or let the contracts of Tristan and JR run through and trade Love unless of course you can get a franchise player in trade for that #8 pick like Kawahi, Cousins, Booker etc.. If Lebron does come back, #8 pick is the asset Cavs have to leverage to get couple of role players with high IQ(Ariza,Thabo, Dedmon for instance) or a borderline all star. Kevin Love should be with the team, a better coach can get more from him and Love is handy for long reg season if not playoffs especially in finals. I think Miami is ready to trade Whiteside, can probably trade him for Tristan and Korver but Cavs should stay away from that. Definitely trade Korver to get a younger and athletic player like Will Barton. Paul Milsap had a bad season coming off injury, but try to bait Denver to trade for Tristan and JR, worth a gamble that he will have a bounce back season next year and kind of high IQ player Lebron was wanting to. Milsap has only one year left. Try to get a coach that Lebron likes but… Read more »
Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
2 months 6 days ago

The 8th pick could potentially be an all-star. No way I’m trading it for Ariza, Thabo, or Dedmon.

warriorsfan
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2 months 6 days ago

Arch, I was saying more like for couple of players or one borderline all star. 8th pick who is ready to play in NBA and not a project would be good choice too. But, go back in last decade, you will probably find only couple of rookies who contributed in playoffs.

warriorsfan
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warriorsfan
2 months 6 days ago

last sentence should read, aside from last year.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
2 months 6 days ago

And no thanks to Porter Jr. He looks like a bust to me. I’d take Bridges if available.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
2 months 6 days ago

Or I’d take Colin Sexton.

believeLAND
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believeLAND
2 months 6 days ago

Yea, it’s a tough feeling- this feeling. We’re in this together CtB.

Whether he stays or goes, we wish him the best. Almost feel like it would be less stressful and more fun if he left and we got the chance to watch a young team grow. Maybe the healthy option for both him and us. Perhaps the organization could focus on being better itself, improving the front office and coaching staff, building stability, and a clear operating mindset- free from emotions and baggage, things that have been a bit too intertwined in the Lebron James experience since ’03, in my opinion.

But maybe he stays, we make some trades- and hell, give it another go round.
Whatever, the case- love the Cavs, love Cleveland, and appreciate all of you, from admin to fellow commentators.

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rick in boise
2 months 6 days ago

Time to cue up the crazy trade proposals? :) An old flame is in the C Suite for AutoZone (their head is the lead Grizzlies owner). They have finally agreed to tank and to dump Conley and Parsons (their biggest contracts & Parsons no longer starts, neither are happy & both are vocal about not tanking). To sell their fans that the tanking won’t be that awful, they want proven players who “need work”. Anyhow, she calls me out of the blue and asks if Cleveland would trade some combination of Thompson, Love, JR(!) and Clarkson for MC & CP if they also agreed to swap 1st rounders. TT eventually replaces Gasol, if Tyreke Evans leaves/is traded then Clarkson probably starts at the 2, maybe even JR at 3? I have ZERO idea if she’s heard things (but I did check out the Trade Machine: MC & CP for TT, JR & JC does work). They want a PF in the draft but it looks like Doncic will there & hard to turn down; picking at 8 still gives them a strong PF. Her intel on the Griz has been spot on before and I’ve heard crazier plans before.

Jack
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2 months 6 days ago

Chandler Parsons is one of the few contracts worse than TT. Mike Conley is perennially injured. Nobody wants Clarkson.

Right Down Euclid
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Right Down Euclid
2 months 6 days ago

It’s a normal collar. Find a new slant.

RightDownEuclid (the first)
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2 months 6 days ago

Look at Bron’s hand. He wasn’t making stuff up…

Close-up look at LeBron's right hand from the first half of NBA Finals Game 4. pic.twitter.com/7W3eOx8eBR

— TomNader_RC (@Tom_Nader) June 9, 2018

Anonymous
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2 months 6 days ago

Might be photo shopped? Doesn’t seem to be a legit twitter account.

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
2 months 7 days ago

in my humble opinion, the vast majority of the pro sport debates has simply to do with character.. when you are making millions, and in many instances, many many millions, how many of these players actually work (re repitition after repetition) to get better? I believe that fewer than 5% have the necessary discipline, simply based on the fact that so few players actually get demonstrably better.. most just coast and cash the checks.. LBJ is one of the true anomalies, and for that, we should all be grateful that we were able to observe a master at work..

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
2 months 7 days ago

of greater interest, at least to me, is how the truly great small-city franchises (re steelers) maintain their performance over the decades, avoiding the all to seemingly inevitable feast to famine swings.. it appears that that culture, and drafting to fit into that culture, play a huge role.. probably hard to clone, otherwise everyone would be doing it.. luck is always a part of the game, but it is almost never enough..

Derek
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2 months 7 days ago

Lebron James one of the greatest if not the greatest solo talent in NBA history is officially the GLOAT; Greatest Loser Of All Time.

JOHN B
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JOHN B
2 months 7 days ago

Durant is up 3-1 on the warriors. Then he chokes away the series. Graphically chokes. Like it is gross. Then joins the team he was up 3-1 on and just lost to. Weak sauce loser mentality. Legacy killer. Durant can’t ever be in the convo for top five now, maybe top ten, considering he never won without being on the team with the most talent in history. Durant is the definition of the Gloat. Enjoy your pyrite rings.

Kevin
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Kevin
2 months 7 days ago

You mean Jerry West?

JRL
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JRL
2 months 7 days ago

How long did it take you to come up with that?

RightDownEuclid (the first)
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RightDownEuclid (the first)
2 months 7 days ago

This picture is haunting

JB225
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2 months 7 days ago

Lebron should have kept the hand injury to himself. I don’t know why bring that up now, even if it’s true. most of the people will look at it as an excuse. Really bad timing IMO.
I had a broken hand injury and I couldn’t dribble a ball with my hand, how could he?
I love Bron but telling this was unnecessary.

Jack
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Jack
2 months 6 days ago

Supposedly, it had already leaked from someone in the cavs org before the press conference.

Peter
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Peter
2 months 7 days ago

Maybe you’re right. But when blowhards like Screamin A Smith who likes to cast aspersions and control narrative out of spite and Charles Barkley, a slacker during his playing days, question your competitiveness, perhaps he felt the need to defend himself without being dragged to the mud by douchebags.

JB225
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JB225
2 months 7 days ago

Good point

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2 months 7 days ago
Truly feels like things are coming to an end, especially for this “Championship team” version of the Cavs. Feels like final goodbyes are in order: TO THE CHAMPS (Lebron, Kevin, Tristan, JR, Lue), Thanks for the memories. 2016 was an amazing year and I witnessed something I had come to believe I would never see as a Cleveland sports fan. Thank you!!!! TO THE VETS (George, Jeff, Jose, Kyle, Kendrick), Thanks for the effort and leadership during a strange season. We started the season with a slew of Vets…glad you all were the ones with us till the end. Thank you!!! TO THE NEW GUYS (Larry, Jordan, Rodney), Thanks for the jolt of energy and youthful exuberance you added to the team. I look forward to seeing you grow into more dynamic roles with the Cavs in the future. Sorry about the lineup inconsistency. Thank you!! TO THE ROOKS (Cedi, Ante), Thanks for the sign of good things to come. For hope. For effort plays and for cool names. The future is bright. Thank you! TO CtB, Thanks for the forum to share my Cavs thoughts and for the hours you helped fill on the road driving listening to insightful… Read more »
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2 months 7 days ago

seriously guys: is there ANY possibility for Cavs to give Bron a genuine chance to compete against GS? 8th pick isn’t the answer for sure. We would need to trade that pick along with current assets – Love is #1 asset, which isn’t saying much. TT untradeable. JR – who would want that headache? Cedi, Z man, Hill, Clarkson, Hood… what can we really get for these guys?

Bron would need at least 1 SUPERSTAR (not Love)… plus better defensive pieces with high IQ (we have zero of that right now).

I just can’t see the trade pieces that could work. but i am no NBA guru like Windy… others covering NBA.

This is why I think even though Bron wants to stay.. how can he.

I hope i am wrong

Jason
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2 months 6 days ago

The only real chance we have to compete would go something like this:

1) Bron decides early to stay
2) Bron tells the team his decision.
3) Bron recruits others
4) We hit a home run with #8
5) We get 2-3 quality rotation pieces somehow: via trade or FA or draft: C, wing, PG. One of which can create offense consistently.
6) Hood turns into a real player.
7) Nance improves some.
8) Clarkson is traded or learns how to play.
9) Lue is replaced with a coach who holds players accoutable, develops players, and understands defensive principles.

Starters: Trae Young, Hood, Bron, Love, Nance.

Bench: Hill, Korver, Osman, + whomever of Clarkson+JR+TT we cannot trade. Plus a FA C & wing. Would not mind keeping Green but not if Lue is the coach.

Jason
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2 months 6 days ago

Or maybe Porter falls to us in the draft.

Arch Stanton
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2 months 7 days ago

With how far over the tax they are, and with few assets, I would say no. It would be easy to say well just sign Paul George, except we’d have to shed the economy of a small 3rd world country, and probably have to trade Love. I don’t think LeBron and PG are enough to get it done. His best option is forming another super team elsewhere IMO.

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2 months 7 days ago

Not without a new coach and significant internal player development. Cedi has the tools to be a 3 and D guy. Clarkson needs serious coaching and a new brain to be a viable 6th man. Zizic could give minutes as a backup big against certain teams like Boston, Toronto, Philly. The #8 pick has to develop throughout the course of the year. With some familiarity with the team and good coaching, Nance should be a starting big.

TT and J.R. need to go. Honestly thought Hill would be much better, but he disappeared big time all playoffs. Luckily his contract in 2019 is only guaranteed $1M so may be able to get rid of him relatively easily.

Maybe Toronto blows it up and wants to get out of DeRozan’s deal. Maybe Charlotte gifts us Kemba in exchange for taking on Batum’s contract. Can’t really see Portland trading away CJ. Cavs are in a really tough position.

RC Kim
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2 months 6 days ago

Hill is the worst. He doesn’t play well for the Kings because he can’t get motivated to play for a loser. He doesn’t play well for the Cavs because he gets the yips when the stakes are high. He is the definition of an useless veteran.

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2 months 7 days ago

I just think of how much harder this team would be to guard if they had a legit shooting guard in place of JR…if Khris Middleton had been on this team, I just can’t see them having many dry spells…

JRL
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2 months 7 days ago

I truly believe that if we had had a competent coach, say coach Drew takes over if Lue hadn’t come back, we would be 2-2 right now. Maybe not enough to beat GS but definitely not a sweep.

Coach Lue, or whoever is calling the shots, is a complete moron. You had the talent to have made it a series and instead “coached” the team into a horrible and embarrassing finish.

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2 months 7 days ago

I’m going to graduation parties today in Ohio and I’m proudly wearing my Eastern Conference Back to Back Champs T-shirt. Ain’t no shame in my Cavs! They were battle tested all season long. Yes they lost but you know what? Many former NBA championship teams would have too. As my son’s former football coach said (they went to State) , “When you look back at all the teams you beat, the battles won… You might not got it All, but you got … was ALOT,, Stand proud”

TV63
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2 months 7 days ago

I’m taking his word for it. Lebron has played through numerous injuries in his career and it is revealed much later. Of course he couldn’t reveal that during series. I’m not blaming him for the loss. There is much work to be done if ANY team in the NBA can beat this stacked 4 All Star team with an ALL STAR COACH and All Star Refs. Rockets only team that took them far. Kyrie wouldn’t have been enough either against a KD led Warrior team. That’s a reality this NBA has right now. What players would be enough to beat them??

Phil Hubbard
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Phil Hubbard
2 months 7 days ago

If the animation doesn’t work here, tap to see it in Twitter. It’s worth it.

Phil Hubbard
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Phil Hubbard
2 months 7 days ago

Take 2, the original tweet

daspec90
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daspec90
2 months 7 days ago

Priceless.

JRL
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JRL
2 months 7 days ago

This is great

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don\'ttraderonharper
2 months 7 days ago

Regardless of Lebron’s timing, I think this calls for a Spartacus/solidarity/#MyHandToo moment, where we each stand up and say “I broke my hand punching something out of frustration with the Cavs.” I’m a long-time fan, but God was this an unnecessarily maddening season.

Whenever I saw Cedi sitting on the bench behind an open-mouthed Ty Lue and needed to go to a meeting, though, I knew I could find support here. Because I need at least one good hand.

Thanks to everyone at CtB for hanging in there. See y’all next year.

Tom Pestak
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Tom Pestak
2 months 7 days ago

Haha. #MyHandToo

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2 months 7 days ago

agree —-just makes him come across as ” excuse ” —–not saying it isn’t —but that is how it will be perceived by the general public——yes —when is the draft—it would benefit BOTH LeBron and the cavs to know his intentions before draft day—–do we try to package our pick/ love and move up or other options ——was very disappointed on the LACK OF A FINAL OVATION FOR LEBRON —YES THEY GAVE HIM A NICE ONE WHEN HE WAS TAKEN OUT BUT THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN 1 MORE FINAL ONE AT THE END OF THE GAME

Vintage
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2 months 7 days ago

I think the LeBron hand news is super shady – would’ve preferred him to just keep it under raps. The timing of it isn’t a good look at all. 1) It puts him in a precarious position that he did it in the first place 2) Makes him look like he’s trying to take attention away from the Warriors championship. “Broken” hand or not, the Cavs weren’t winning this series for how they played on defense.

IF LeBron stays, it’s in his best interest to be straight up with the team so they can start to plan accordingly. Would be icing on the cake to take a discount – which we all know he has no intention of doing (say what you want about cupcake Durant, but you can’t argue Durant hasn’t prioritized winning over money to keep their juggernaut together). If he leaves, I guess it doesn’t matter if he doesn’t tell his intentions to the franchise since we wouldn’t be getting a big ticket FA to sign here anyways.

JRL
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JRL
2 months 7 days ago

I’m with you on the Durant thing. He did take less money, like Duncan did, in order to keep the team together.

I unfortunately don’t see LeBron doing that. It would be great if he did and be able to get PG13. But it won’t happen.

Jason
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Jason
2 months 7 days ago

Bron could sign for vet min & we are still over the cap. Not that your point on Timmy & Durant is not well taken.

Vintage
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Vintage
2 months 7 days ago

Yup would be the first of many requisite moves to get the cap situation under control

JRL
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JRL
2 months 7 days ago
I couldn’t bring myself to watch the game last night and so far today I’vee been able to block any type of news about it. I don’t even know the final score. As it’s painfully obvious from the 15-20 comments I’ve read so far here, the Cavs lost. Sorry to say but I’m glad I didn’t watch. I can’t stand GS and their winning makes me want to kick a baby koala. I absolutely hate their arrogance. Anyways, I hope Lue, JR and TT are sent packing. Although TT stepped it up in the last two series, it’s hard to watch a player not have any impact whatsoever on the offensive side of the ball. Lue should had been fired after last finals. His stupidity cost us a real shot at a championship. JR is a shell of himself and his mental lapse on game 1 will always be in my/our mind/s. I can’t root for the guy anymore. Not on a veteran minimum and definitely not on a bloated contract. I’m not sure what LeBron will do. I think he’ll be gone. I just don’t see how the Cavs can make the moves needed to compete against GS, let… Read more »
Tom Pestak
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Tom Pestak
2 months 7 days ago

Thanks for being here – hopefully next season will be more fun/relaxing

Leo
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Leo
2 months 7 days ago

this Lebron hand injury just adds to the weirdness of this entire Cavs season….just so much to tackle, hope one or all the Cavsthe Blog writers put some synopsis together of this season; felt like 2 or 3 seasons in 1…just bizarre from a lot of angles.

MikeO
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2 months 7 days ago

JR’s idiocy can break any man…that said, Lebron breaking his hand punching a white board is JR level dumb in its own right. Makes one think what would have happened if JR puts that missed free throw back in, or passes out to an open Lebron like literally any other Cavs player would have done.

Anonymous
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Anonymous
2 months 7 days ago

Listening to him in the presser, it sounded like he might of been more ticked off about the officiating than how the 4th quarter ended.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
2 months 7 days ago

Hopefully we can pick up a second round pick with Hill’s expiring contract.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
2 months 7 days ago

I think the Warriors are probably done winning championships with this group. Their rein is coming to a close. I predict Dray is gonna cry in the parking lot next offseason asking Michael Jordan to join their team, after they get stomped by whatever new team LeBron joins.

Phil Hubbard
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Phil Hubbard
2 months 7 days ago

So maybe it wasn’t LeBron’s legs after all that made his jumper desert him these past few games

Phil Hubbard
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2 months 7 days ago

Phil Hubbard
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Phil Hubbard
2 months 7 days ago

In 2015 when game one went to overtime, Irving got hurt.

This year after game one went to overtime, James hurt his hand.

My computer is too old and slow to run a spreadsheet with all the opponent injuries the Warriors have benefited from in the playoffs these past four years.

Tom Pestak
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Tom Pestak
2 months 7 days ago

Not enough Memory to hold all those rows

Phil Hubbard
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Phil Hubbard
2 months 7 days ago

Windy’s tweet:

Derek
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2 months 7 days ago

Life long Dubs fan (45 yrs). Cleveland; it’s been a fun run. 4 years of great history together. Both teams will be mentioned with the greatest.

Tom Pestak
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Tom Pestak
2 months 7 days ago

Congrats Derek – thanks for stopping in

Mr Green in Library with Jrs Laid Pipe
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Mr Green in Library with Jrs Laid Pipe
2 months 7 days ago

Fun in 2015 2016…

daspec90
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daspec90
2 months 7 days ago

Brian Windhorst making some news about Lebron’s right hand injury after punching a wall after Game 1.

Jason
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2 months 7 days ago

Yes it is.

Excl
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2 months 7 days ago

Yeah just heard that. Wow. He should of punched either Draymond Green or Tony Brothers in the face and at least gotten his money’s worth.

daspec90
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daspec90
2 months 7 days ago

Just about to write “or the refs”, but you had that covered.

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
2 months 7 days ago

can’t wait to see TT’s (and JR’s) effort next year on a last place re-builder.. should be quite instructive

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
2 months 7 days ago

i say write off the contracts.. the high-paid leftovers from this run are not going to be watchable.. let ’em go.. bring in some long shots and let’s see what happens.. love (not my fave, but still playable, and not tradeable), nance, cedi, zizic, hood (hate to say it, but keep him, and he should be cheap), “the pick”.. then bring in the long shots..

Jack
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2 months 6 days ago

Nope. Gotta trade Love. They can’t risk finishing with a pick outside the top 10 because then they have to send it to Atlanta.

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
2 months 7 days ago

actually, canton is not that far away, is it?

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
2 months 7 days ago

You’ll have to resign Hood. I’d let him walk. Unless he wants a vet min deal.

Tom Pestak
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Tom Pestak
2 months 7 days ago

Thanks everyone for riding along this season. Felt like 6 seasons …

daspec90
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daspec90
2 months 7 days ago

Thank you to all the people who keep CtB going! Don’t know what I’d do without it.

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
2 months 7 days ago

zack lowe pretty well spells it out on the espn site.. worth reading.. as paul simon so elegantly sang, “preserve you memories, they’re all that’s left you”

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Joeyb
2 months 7 days ago

And outlines just how horrible the Irving fiasco was. An incredible asset thrown in the garbage.

Jason
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Jason
2 months 7 days ago

We didn’t throw him away, he left us. He would not have played this year in the Finals regardless, and Bron would still be at a crossroads.

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
2 months 7 days ago

yes.. many steaming piles have been left in the wake..

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
2 months 7 days ago

i hate to say it, but lowe agree with me.. the bennett fiasco has had, and will continue to have, adverse long-term consequences on the franchise.. you don’t just miss by 10 miles on a #1

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
2 months 7 days ago

it was incompetent, foolhardy, reckless, and unforgiveable

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
2 months 7 days ago

time to hunker down for the lean years..

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
2 months 7 days ago

well, i lived through the indians of the mid ’60s.. i can survive anything

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
2 months 7 days ago

hockey anyone?

daspec90
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daspec90
2 months 7 days ago

I was happy for Oveckin until I learned he was a strong Purim supporter.

Phil Hubbard
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Phil Hubbard
2 months 7 days ago

The Indians have the biggest lead in any division

daspec90
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daspec90
2 months 7 days ago

Chaotic year for the Cavs. The team and Lebron exceeded my expectations. Great, great run in these playoffs. I loved watching these games, esp. Lebron’s magnificence.

running jumper
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running jumper
2 months 7 days ago

Man

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
2 months 7 days ago

Cavs have some contract unloading (TT, JR) to do. Wonder what they could get for KLove?

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
2 months 7 days ago

a second rounder

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
2 months 7 days ago

I think they ought to be able to get at least one first round pick.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
2 months 7 days ago

Dan Gilbert is currently practicing a letter to the fans in Times New Roman. I’m sure halfway through the 2nd draft he will be in full Comic Sans mode.

TV63
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TV63
2 months 7 days ago

nah

bw..
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bw..
2 months 7 days ago

The rivalry between the Cavs and the Warriors would have been so much fun if Durant hadn’t wussed out on OKC. Such a bummer we didn’t get that.

RightDownEuclid (the first)
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RightDownEuclid (the first)
2 months 7 days ago

seriously. Also we would be up 3-1

running jumper
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running jumper
2 months 7 days ago

What to do..

Boogieeels
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Boogieeels
2 months 7 days ago

Good for the Warriors. I don’t care how much talent you have, winning 3 championships in 4 years isn’t easy. Cavs-Warriors has been good for basketball. I love the NBA and I love the Cavs. Thanks for a great season!

RightDownEuclid (the first)
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RightDownEuclid (the first)
2 months 7 days ago

how was the last 4 minutes of that game not a LeBron love fest. C’mon fans. C’mon game operations.

running jumper
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running jumper
2 months 7 days ago

Sad.

Phil Hubbard
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Phil Hubbard
2 months 7 days ago

Mark Jackson is the Kia Finals dillweed.

daspec90
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daspec90
2 months 7 days ago

Thanks. I needed a chuckle.

JMKP
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JMKP
2 months 7 days ago

The thing I hate most about tonight is that IT was right.

bw..
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bw..
2 months 7 days ago

Lol. Had the same thought. But eff that guy. Like he’ll ever sniff a significant moment in the finals in his life time. His career is shot.

Arch Stanton
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2 months 7 days ago

JMKP
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2 months 7 days ago

Man, this Zizic and Cedi pair are really swell. Where have they been all playoffs?

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running jumper
2 months 7 days ago

I hate the Warriors.

running jumper
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running jumper
2 months 7 days ago

I’m so sad.

Right Down Euclid
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Right Down Euclid
2 months 7 days ago

The arena team needs to facilitate some LeBron cheers

Scotch
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Scotch
2 months 8 days ago

Cedi stuffs the crap out if curry in play #1,

Vintage
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Vintage
2 months 8 days ago

We got nothing but time to talk about the state of the Cavs in the coming weeks… I’m out for the night, everyone. Been a great season. Thank you LeBron and all the Cavs!

TheOtherJason
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TheOtherJason
2 months 8 days ago

night guys; cavs in 9!

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
2 months 8 days ago

I’ve gradually been checking out of the Cavs once Dan let Griff walk and he traded Kyrie. I’m not surprised by the outcome of this finals. That being said the Cavs should be commended for actually getting to the finals again. They may never do it again in our lifetime.

Phil Hubbard
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Phil Hubbard
2 months 7 days ago

Cavs 37 seasons without LeBron: Won a few playoff series (four, I think), got to the Eastern Conference finals twice.

11 seasons with LeBron: Won 20-odd playoff series, played in five Finals, and one championship.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
2 months 7 days ago

That’s incredible!

Boogieeels
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Boogieeels
2 months 8 days ago

Emotional right now. Really emotional. I cried when he left. I cried when he returned. I cried in 2016. Crying now.

Phil Hubbard
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Phil Hubbard
2 months 8 days ago

Cedi off the bench first possession stymies Curry on the perimeter and buries him at the hoop.

Vintage
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Vintage
2 months 8 days ago

Poetic justice that Cedi’s first possession, he’s on an island against Curry and blocks him

JMKP
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JMKP
2 months 8 days ago

Cedi with some great defense on Curry

daspec90
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daspec90
2 months 8 days ago

It was definitely a joy to watch Lebron play in a Cavs uniform. Lots of great memories. That off the backboard dunk on Wednesday only the most recent.

believeLAND
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believeLAND
2 months 8 days ago

Thank you Lebron. For everything.

TheOtherJason
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TheOtherJason
2 months 8 days ago

jackson is an idiot. down 30 and lbj is a half step late and that just ‘cant happen’? what an idiot

buck turgidson
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buck turgidson
2 months 8 days ago

we all, and LBJ himself, are a victim of his greatness.. for most franchises, 4 straight runs to the finals, against one of the all-time great teams in the history of the sport would qualify as an unambiguous magnificent victory.. not so with us.. we need to reflect a bit

JMay
Member
2 months 8 days ago

Man, guys. I’m so sad.

daspec90
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daspec90
2 months 8 days ago

I’d take him out around 3:00 mark.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
2 months 8 days ago

I’m glad Bron brought a championship in 2016. Let’s see if Comic Sans Dan can keep this team out of basketball purgatory for the next decade. My hope is that he sells the team.

Boogieeels
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Boogieeels
2 months 8 days ago

Lebron and the Cavs going put to the Warriors like this feels like the white haired girl in the first Matrix movie when she realized the dude was gonna punk her and pull her plug. “Not like this…”

TheOtherJason
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TheOtherJason
2 months 8 days ago

This is kinda perfect for me. Either LeBron stays and proves there is something more other than ‘whats best for the player’, and i keep watching – or he leaves the cavs and i no longer watch pro ball. win-win

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