Playoff Live Thread: Cavs vs. Raptors, Game 4 (#Extinction?)

“Same as it ever was… same as it ever was…” — The Talking Heads

Have you ever had one of those recurring nightmares that haunts you? You know, the one where no matter how fast you run… how strong you are… how much you try and fight… the boogeyman still gets you in the end… and you wake up screaming? I know the Toronto Raptors (and their fans) have. Only this particular nightmare usually recurs every May for the dinos… and this May is no exception. They’ve tried harder, made themselves stronger, reached the highest seed ever… but still find themselves in a fairly insurmountable 0-3 hole.

The difference this time, is that instead of just images of being chased down by the boogeyman (in the 23 jersey), this nightmare could show flashes of the end of the world as these Raps know it. After all, how many times can you run into the same wall before you have to find a different way around it? Yes, given how they’re presently constituted, Toronto will have some soul searching to do if they are swept away yet again by LeBron James and the Cavaliers. Even if they somehow fight back and claw out a moral victory tonight at the Q… is it really feasible for them to win three more straight against this team (something 129 other squads in that same situation have failed to do — none have succeeded by the way)?

Maybe the hardest thing for these Raptors to swallow, is that they weren’t that far away from being up 2-1 instead of fighting off extinction in Game 4. Despite the blowout in Game 2, the Cavs won the other two games by a combined three points (one in overtime and the other on an instant classic buzzer beater from none other than the Boogeyman himself). This statistic alone should give Dwayne Casey enough ammunition to exhort his troops to give their all tonight to salvage some measure of pride and give their fans back in Toronto a glimmer of hope. On the flip side, Tyronn Lue has already warned his guys about the dangers of being overconfident… wanting to make sure they show up ready to take care of business.

Closeout games are usually the hardest in a series to win. To do so requires the team who has the upper hand to set the tone early and try to make the contest moot by halftime. The Cavs have not been great at this routine in these playoffs, regularly coughing up big leads at the worst times. However, their mental edge over these Raptors should prove to be the difference… even if the final score is much closer than it should be.

Prediction: As usual in the playoffs, no score prognistication from me… I’ll just say that LeBron should once again haunt the dreams of the Raptors, and rip out their hearts this final time with an extinction level event.

Catch all the action on TNT starting at 8:30pm EST, and as always chime in below…

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Jason
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Jason
3 months 8 days ago

Our top 7 was pretty darn efficient.

Bron: 34/8.3/11.3 on 55.3% & 16.7% 3pt.
Love: 20.5/11.5/1.5 on 47.5% & 35.5% 3pt
KK: 14.5 ppg on 58.3% FG & 56.0% 3PT
JR: 12.5 ppg on 63.0% FG & 71.4% 3PT
Hill: 10.3 ppg on 53.3% FG & 33.3% 3PT
Green: 12.3 ppg on 54.8% FG & 43.8% 3PT
TT: t.3 ppg on 61.5% FG

Only guy under 50% FG was Love at 47.5% due to the 3/13 in game 1. Thing is, the 3PT shooting was not great outside of Green (43.8%), Korver (56.0%!), & Swish (71.4%!!!!).
Bron was under 20%.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
3 months 8 days ago

Scotch
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Scotch
3 months 8 days ago

This was Tye Lue’s best performance at a press conference.

Phil Hubbard
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Phil Hubbard
3 months 8 days ago

Conference finals are scheduled to start May 15-16, could move up to May 13-14 depending on when the other series end.

warriorsfan
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warriorsfan
3 months 8 days ago

Congrats guys for reaching conf finals. I truly think tough series by Pacers helped Cavs. Cavs would have swept 76ers too. Guessing, Celts will be a 7 game series. Another test for the king on road in game 7. Cavs should hope to close in 6 at home.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
3 months 8 days ago

Hill is about to put Rozier in the blender and President Stevens will resort to Goon Ball with Baynes. Also Tristan has real estate in Al Horford’s Head. Bill Simmons is gonna lose it, like he does every week.

warriorsfan
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warriorsfan
3 months 8 days ago

Horford is playing really well. Besides, you don’t know what version of Tristan is going to show up.

Tom Pestak
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3 months 8 days ago

Celtics should be tougher than Raptors but I don’t know about 7. Cavs own a mental edge against them too.

CLF
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CLF
3 months 8 days ago

LMAO…. Cavs in 4.

Simmo
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Simmo
3 months 8 days ago

Just got the brooms out, I say keep them out. Cavs in 4.

Nate Smith
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3 months 8 days ago

I don’t see that. Celtics and Sixers both look weak.

warriorsfan
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warriorsfan
3 months 8 days ago

Imagine Celts D on Cavs not named Lebron. Stevens will come up with the best plan to limit Cavs. 7 games may be stretch but I can see atleast 6 games series with most games being close.

MikeO
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MikeO
3 months 8 days ago

Celtics take a huge amount of threes, third in league, I think…? If they are raining them in, especially at home, they can beat anyone…but if they are bricking them, they can score 76 points.

Jason
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Jason
3 months 8 days ago

I still think Philly has a shot. They should be up 3-1.

RightDownEuclid (the first)
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RightDownEuclid (the first)
3 months 8 days ago

Can RJ just basically travel on the Cavs plane etc now he’s doing FSO postgame?

Nate Smith
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3 months 8 days ago

Chuck thinking The Pistons should bring back in Isaiah as president of basketball operations.. Good god. Please do, Detroit.

Slammin Sam
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Slammin Sam
3 months 8 days ago

He said that and Kobe was better than LBJ back to back. Yikes

Nate Smith
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3 months 8 days ago

Man. Philly and Boston both just a team full of fake tough guys.

JOHN B
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JOHN B
3 months 8 days ago

I wouldn’t mess with Baynes.

JRL
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JRL
3 months 8 days ago

Sarcasm?

Nate Smith
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3 months 8 days ago

How much of this series was just Love and Hill getting healthy?

CLF
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CLF
3 months 8 days ago

Most of it. and Korver too…. he had a foot thing IIRC. Also, it’s LBJ flipping a switch in that Indy series.

Nate Smith
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3 months 8 days ago

Richard Jefferson so good on the postgame.

CLF
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CLF
3 months 8 days ago

Man…. I miss FSO.

Phil Hubbard
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Phil Hubbard
3 months 8 days ago

FSO should bring him back full time when he retires

Nate Smith
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3 months 8 days ago

Hah. Maybe. I bet he wants a west coast job.

Joeyb
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Joeyb
3 months 8 days ago

He’ll get a national job. He’s very good.

Phil Hubbard
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Phil Hubbard
3 months 8 days ago

Charles on talk TV criticizing talk radio…

Phil Hubbard
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Phil Hubbard
3 months 9 days ago

Lordy there’s a T-shirt

RC Kim
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3 months 9 days ago

Well I guess “Rapped the Bed” officially is a thing. Good thing they have $100m tied up at least through 2020 on this core.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
3 months 9 days ago

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
3 months 9 days ago

Mike Podracky
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Mike Podracky
3 months 9 days ago

DeRozan and Lowry just 18 pts. Hard to believe even with Demar getting tossed

believeLAND
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believeLAND
3 months 9 days ago

They’re not allstar worthy. East is just weak, so they have to pick somebody

RC Kim
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3 months 8 days ago

They’re Kemba Walker all-stars.

believeLAND
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believeLAND
3 months 9 days ago

LOL Shaq

CLF
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CLF
3 months 9 days ago

AND NANCE DOING DIRTY WORK!!!!!! WOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

Phil Hubbard
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Phil Hubbard
3 months 9 days ago

And the first team to reach the conference finals is…

CLF
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CLF
3 months 9 days ago

Great one on one defense CEDI!!!!!!!!!!

CLF
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CLF
3 months 9 days ago

AH man that looked like a sweet sky hook…. Zizic almost had it.

Phil Hubbard
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Phil Hubbard
3 months 9 days ago

Everybody except Zizic is involved in this play

CLF
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CLF
3 months 9 days ago

What a freaking pass by Calderon…. and Cedi with the vision and anticipation. And of course Nance with the bookends to the play with the freak athleticism and hustle!!!

Phil Hubbard
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Phil Hubbard
3 months 8 days ago

Yeah that whole sequence is high art on the basketball court.

Phil Hubbard
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Phil Hubbard
3 months 9 days ago

LeBron’s dipsy-do in Phantom Cam

Mike Podracky
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Mike Podracky
3 months 9 days ago

Nice !

Jason
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Jason
3 months 9 days ago

Let’s try to get Zizic & Hood on the board in the last minute plus.

Our best win of the post-season.

JOHN B
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JOHN B
3 months 9 days ago

Goodnight Raptors, thanks for all the memories.

Phil Hubbard
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Phil Hubbard
3 months 9 days ago

The Cedi trey

CLF
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CLF
3 months 9 days ago

NANCE WITH A NOTHER DUNK!!!!!!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous
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Anonymous
3 months 9 days ago

This team is CLICKING! And LeBron is the GOAT.

CLF
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CLF
3 months 9 days ago

GREAT TEAMWORK!!! CEDI WITH THE DISH TO NANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous
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Anonymous
3 months 9 days ago

Clarkson is still the worst NBA player I’ve watched in a long time. Has he made a single shot in this series?

MikeO
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MikeO
3 months 9 days ago

He’s made a few, but easy to forget them…

Kevin
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Kevin
3 months 9 days ago

Cedi is fearless and WANTS playing time. This is the type of player you go to war with

Phil Hubbard
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Phil Hubbard
3 months 9 days ago

And the bench gets a highlight play with everybody involved! Block save pass dish dunk!

CLF
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CLF
3 months 9 days ago

INCREDIBLE SEQUENCE!!!! PERFECTION!!

Tom Pestak
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3 months 9 days ago

NANCE!!!!!

CLF
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CLF
3 months 9 days ago

CEDI with great one on one defense… gets a little unlucky there.

Nate Smith
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3 months 9 days ago

That was sweet. God I hope Nance plays over TT next round.

Jason
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Jason
3 months 9 days ago

Agaist bulkier Cs, TT does have some advantages. Or if it gets overly physical.

I am with you, however.

CLF
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CLF
3 months 9 days ago

HEY GO BOBCATS!!!!!!!

CLF
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CLF
3 months 9 days ago

Thank goodness for Calderon!!!! He’s controlling the game.

Kevin
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Kevin
3 months 9 days ago

Remember that game against the Hawks two years ago when the Cavs put up like 80 threes?

Phil Hubbard
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Phil Hubbard
3 months 9 days ago

Young Z is in!

CLF
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CLF
3 months 9 days ago

CEDI THREEEEE!!!!!!!!! GREAT SETUP BY GREEN!!!!!!! You could tell Green wanted him to get going.

Nate Smith
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3 months 9 days ago

Osman!

Phil Hubbard
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Phil Hubbard
3 months 9 days ago

Cavs’ starters finish the night shooting 69%. Overall the team is at 62%

CLF
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CLF
3 months 9 days ago

FANCY WEAVE….. NICE HANDLES JOSE!!!! GREEN THREE!!!!!

JOHN B
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JOHN B
3 months 9 days ago

Prediction: starters have to come back in at some point.

Phil Hubbard
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Phil Hubbard
3 months 9 days ago

Nah, I think a 28-point lead is safe

JOHN B
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JOHN B
3 months 9 days ago

Unless Green continues to make contested threes.

Nate Smith
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3 months 9 days ago

Seriously might have wanted to leave Clarkson in Canada.

CLF
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CLF
3 months 9 days ago

Sloppy defense from this crew. LOCK IT DOWN!

GrumpyOldMan
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GrumpyOldMan
3 months 9 days ago

Why is Clarkson taking jump shots with 17 seconds left on the shot clock?

Mike Podracky
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Mike Podracky
3 months 9 days ago

Even in this great blowout I hate Jordan Clarkson.

CLF
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CLF
3 months 9 days ago

Nice pass Clarkson! Nice shot Green!

Phil Hubbard
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Phil Hubbard
3 months 9 days ago

CLF
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CLF
3 months 9 days ago

Don’t hesitate Green!!!

Pete
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Pete
3 months 9 days ago

Lue should put Nance in there so he doesn’t forget what it’s like to play pro basketball.

Nate Smith
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3 months 9 days ago

I’m so glad I had that surgery to remove my inflamed Siakam.

Phil Hubbard
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Phil Hubbard
3 months 9 days ago

We want Zz!

Jason
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Jason
3 months 9 days ago

25 dimes for Bron.

Time for Jose, Hood, , Cedi, Nance, & Zizic.

Nate Smith
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3 months 9 days ago

Someone work with Clarkson please.

Leo
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Leo
3 months 9 days ago

He’s so out of control

Mike Podracky
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Mike Podracky
3 months 9 days ago

Does this sweep get Casey fired?

Jason
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Jason
3 months 9 days ago

It shouldn’t. They did not lose because of Casey.

JOHN B
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JOHN B
3 months 9 days ago

He has made some awful decisions this series. Some that have more or less given the cavs huge leads.

Pete
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Pete
3 months 9 days ago

It shouldn’t. It’s not his fault his team doesn’t have LeBron.

Leo
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Leo
3 months 9 days ago

Yes

Pete
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Pete
3 months 9 days ago

They’re playing God’s Plan in the arena right now.

CLF
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CLF
3 months 9 days ago

LBJ clocking out…… job well done!!!! ONTO THE ECF!!!!

Nate Smith
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3 months 9 days ago

Get him out. Geez

CLF
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CLF
3 months 9 days ago

TT post ups are ugly LOL

Nate Smith
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3 months 9 days ago

God I hope an offseason does Clarkson some good.

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