Live Thread: Cavs @ Pacers, Game 4


The Cavs are back in Indiana again tonight. After giving up an 17 point lead in the 2nd Half of game 3, the Cavs are down 2-1 to the Pacers. This game isn’t a must win, but having to play a must win game in Indiana would be a poor position to be in for game five.

One has to hope the Cavs can right their play. They are making just 9.7 3s a night (12-16) at a 30.9% rate, which is second worse in the playoffs. During the regular season, the Cavs made 12 3s per game (3-30) at a 37.2% rate, which was sixth in the league. The shooting will hopefully return to normal. No one on the team is getting buckets outside of the King.

LeBron James has scored 98 points this series, he’s averaging 32.7 per game. The Cavs have scored just 270 points in three games. James has essentially score 37% of all those points. There’s not much more to say. Cleveland simply needs more guys to make shots.

Defensively, the Cavs haven’t allowed the Pacers to score over 100 and are second in defensive rating for the post season. The struggles haven’t gone away and the their trapping scheme hasn’t been the most effective, but the defense isn’t to blame for the losses.

Tyronn Lue has mentioned Tristan Thompson will probably see minutes this game because of “toughness.” George Hill will miss the game because of his back. This means the Cavs will have to figure out some way to slow Victor Oladipo. Jose Calderon is probably not the answer to that. He’s starting anyways though.

Right now, I’m not confident the team can figure the offense out. At least with Jose starting, LeBron will be have some help creating shots, but it may not be enough.

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Nate Smith
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1 month 24 days ago

Kelly Olynyk is a ridiculous human being.

Jason
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Jason
1 month 26 days ago

Lue does things at cross purposes.

He wants to play fast. But if you play Bron 44-46 per night, he cannot play fast without rest.

Love is likely playing with one hand. Gonna affect getting the ball taken away and hand-fighting with the off hand. Also, harder to back down guys playing as an undersized 5 than a true 4. In Minny, he has Rubio at PG.

Also, Love has never been a dominant post guy. He ain’t elite down there like: Shaq/Wilt/Kareen/Duncan/Olajuwon/McHale.HeHe
His thing is he can do a bit of everything. Four. Five. Shoot. Post. Elbow. Elite rebounder.

Anonymous
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1 month 26 days ago

EvilGenius
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1 month 26 days ago

Missed the game live, but just caught up on DVR… late to the party, but this seems warranted…

EvilGenius
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1 month 26 days ago

Or this…

Anonymous
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Anonymous
1 month 26 days ago

CLF
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CLF
1 month 26 days ago

yup…. explains his lack of activity in 2nd halves.

daspec90
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daspec90
1 month 26 days ago

He’s smart. He did what he had to do to get the win.

Nate Smith
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1 month 26 days ago

Heh.

MikeO
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MikeO
1 month 26 days ago

Lol…if he traveled, it was caused by Lance’s foul…what a ridiculous take…

JB225
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JB225
1 month 26 days ago

Exactly, you ate right Mike.

this was a dumb comment.

scotch
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scotch
1 month 26 days ago

That the least blatant travel i’ve seen in an NBA game in a long time. quite a reach lol

Nate Smith
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1 month 26 days ago

To me, it’s very easy to argue that Lance pushed him in the back to cause the travel

Scotch
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Scotch
1 month 26 days ago

For sure…but also…if that is a blatant travel then Giannis should average about 3 points per game

running jumper
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running jumper
1 month 26 days ago

Have to commend TT. Great job despite not playing. Even though he still sucks, he came ready and his energy came off big for us.

MikeO
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MikeO
1 month 26 days ago

He was actually decent in his minutes, although getting blocked at the rim on that transition pass from Clarkson sucked.

scotch
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scotch
1 month 26 days ago

He got stuffed twice at the rim, played passable defense, and made one great hustle play to get a deflection and get a foul on turner. I wouldn’t mind if these are the only minutes we need him for during this playoff run.

MikeO
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MikeO
1 month 26 days ago

Also set some good picks, and he’s one of the Cavs best pick setters. Please note, I’m not exactly lobbying for big minutes for TT here.

RightDownEuclid (the first)
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RightDownEuclid (the first)
1 month 26 days ago

We have 1 true center on this team and his name is Ante. We need a mobile center desperately for this series to eat some time against Turner. What frustrates me endlessly is that Philly and Embiid are looming and the same exact issue is going to pop up. It’d be one thing if we only had Toronto, Boston, and GS standing in our way then I’d say sure we need to get reps with Love and Nance. But this is going to happen again if we make it to ECF and Zizic could be getting much needed reps now!

JOHN B
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JOHN B
1 month 26 days ago

Embiid also torched nance earlier this year. In all honesty Simmons terrifies me even more. Who in the hell are we going to put on him?! I mean I don’t think LBJ can guard him and run the offense for 46 mpg. Simmons will obliterate anyone but green and LBJ in the post. He will likely blow by Nance and TT. Nance, Love and TT will have to guard Embiiid anyway.

I would guess JR gets Simmons, LBJ gets Saric, Korver gets Covington, and either Hill or Calderon chases Reddick, while Nance, TT, and Love do whatever they can to slow Embiid. God they have so much length. I guess the longest and biggest starting lineup in the league with four guys 6’9″ and taller in the starters, three of which are 6’10” plus.

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believeLAND
1 month 26 days ago

Milwaukee got some crazy length too. Not sure if they or Philly are longer. But we are getting way ahead of ourselves. Need to finish this series and then get past Toronto. Would honestly be surprised if we reached ECF.

RightDownEuclid (the first)
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RightDownEuclid (the first)
1 month 26 days ago

Yeah their length is crazy. Hill has to hold his own against Simmons with his 7′ wingspan. LBJ get Saric. Korver gets Reddick and JR Covington in a tale of exactly identical players. Then Love gets Embiid….so help us God.

JOHN B
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JOHN B
1 month 26 days ago

I would rather more size on Simmons in the halfcourt though the cross match between Simmons and JR and Hill and Reddick could cause a lot of issues in transition. Then again you might get away with a smaller guy since Simmons doesn’t want to shoot it beyond 15. I do worry that he could just post Hill to death and then kill doubles with all the shooters they have.

Nate Smith
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1 month 26 days ago

I’d also like peace in the middle east, but it’s not happening any time soon, either.

RightDownEuclid (the first)
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RightDownEuclid (the first)
1 month 26 days ago

Jared Kushner would play Ante

CLF
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CLF
1 month 26 days ago

LOL true

CLF
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CLF
1 month 26 days ago

Not just Turner, Sabonis went absolutely nuts…

MikeO
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MikeO
1 month 26 days ago

Sabonis playing like that was infuriating. He could hardly miss, and got some big boards.

CLF
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CLF
1 month 26 days ago

Yup… backup center who’s 21 and tearing it up…. wish we could see what our 21 year old backup center can do.

daspec90
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daspec90
1 month 26 days ago

MASSIVE WIN BY THE CAVS!!!

believeLAND
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believeLAND
1 month 26 days ago

Love is not a star. At best, a glorified role player.

JOHN B
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JOHN B
1 month 26 days ago

Agree with Nate. However, I don’t think he is the same player he was in Minny though. He seems to struggle a lot more in the post since losing the weight, while he lived down there in Minny. He really seems to struggle to get position and hold it on the block. In Minny he was far more capable of pinning guys and then backing them down. I also don’t think this team does him many favors by using him so much as a floor spacer. Then again it is kind of necessary with the spread ISO or spread pick and roll.

Scotch
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Scotch
1 month 26 days ago

To be fair…his struggled against Thad young are well documented. Thad is just stronger than most 4s.

Nate Smith
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1 month 26 days ago

He seems to struggle to keep. Muscle. Mass o on

Nate Smith
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1 month 26 days ago

The. Dude. Is. Hurt.

NickNevers
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NickNevers
1 month 26 days ago

No that’s Turtle Head Al Horford – he’s a glorified role player. Love is a true All-Star just having a rough go at the moment. He’ll be better.

mark priceless
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mark priceless
1 month 26 days ago

pleaseplaycedi.com

RightDownEuclid (the first)
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RightDownEuclid (the first)
1 month 26 days ago

Lol Green “nobody’s gonna fight on a basketball court, honestly”

JOHN B
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JOHN B
1 month 26 days ago

Hehe. The league certainly has changed since the 80s and 90s, even the early 2000s.

scotch
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scotch
1 month 26 days ago

for sure…there was a moment where stephensen was sitting up and green had a chance to literally just rake him across the temple. Seeing Green suspended almost would’ve made it worth it.

JOHN B
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JOHN B
1 month 26 days ago

Dear lord, LBJ played 46 minutes!!!! He is getting into Wilt territory.

JOHN B
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JOHN B
1 month 26 days ago

Green I think actually had some decent moments down the stretch tonight. Hit a corner three. Bailed out a busted possession on a difficult drive. He is so hit or miss though, not just from game to game but possession to possession.

RightDownEuclid (the first)
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RightDownEuclid (the first)
1 month 26 days ago

agree. he had a few shots including a 3 that if he doesn’t hit in 4th we lose

CLF
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CLF
1 month 26 days ago

He’s playing better coming off the bench.

RightDownEuclid (the first)
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RightDownEuclid (the first)
1 month 26 days ago

Just how i taught him https://t.co/216SRsJEYv

— Channing Frye (@Channing_Frye) April 23, 2018

daspec90
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daspec90
1 month 26 days ago

Great shot!

We could probably use Channing and RJs’ sense of humor in the locker room.

CLF
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CLF
1 month 26 days ago

Yup…. keep the youngins’ loose.

RightDownEuclid (the first)
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RightDownEuclid (the first)
1 month 26 days ago

totally. don’t think there’s anyone on the team right now to play that role. I can see RJ giving honest inspirational pep talks and then Channing coming in with a dumb fart joke. I’m not sure anyone in the locker room is able to provide either of those right now.

CLF
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CLF
1 month 26 days ago

I know… Perkins probably scares the crap out of them.

RightDownEuclid (the first)
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RightDownEuclid (the first)
1 month 26 days ago

He’s like an old drunk uncle who always pulls you aside at family reunions to give you advice and you just nod and grin until you can get away

CLF
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CLF
1 month 26 days ago

lol

MikeO
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MikeO
1 month 26 days ago

Cavs could really use Channing now…but it is what it is…

MikeO
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MikeO
1 month 26 days ago

Sounds reasonable enough to me. Hill has to play game 5

Really think LeBron is just getting gassed in these 2Hs. Cavs played at a 97 possession pace in the 1H and 91 possession pace in the 2H
They played at a 95 possession pace in the famous grind it out 2015 Finals v GS

— Mike Zavagno (@MZavagno11) April 23, 2018

Vintage
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Vintage
1 month 26 days ago

Yeah I think LeBron slows it down to save some energy for the 4th after playing nearly the entire first half. This in turn lets Pacers get back in the game as they become the aggressors.

It’s a shame Lue fees like he has to play LeBron 44+ min when we could have 12 guys that could theoretically contribute.

RightDownEuclid (the first)
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RightDownEuclid (the first)
1 month 26 days ago

Man 76ers are going to wax the crust of the earth with whoever comes out of Boston Milwaukee series. Really hope is MKE so we see Stevens schemes against them.

RightDownEuclid (the first)
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RightDownEuclid (the first)
1 month 26 days ago

If we make it to the ECF then LeBron is going to lose his paternity suit against the cities of Indianapolis, DC, and Toronto

running jumper
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running jumper
1 month 26 days ago

Lol he still have Boston.

Nate Smith
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1 month 26 days ago

LOL

Nate Smith
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1 month 26 days ago

Man. What a monster game by Kyle. Getting Turner out of the game with a pump fake in the third quarter was enormous, then the threes and clutch free throws. Love the dude.

CLF
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CLF
1 month 26 days ago

And displayed mental toughness after that atrocious shooting start.

JOHN B
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JOHN B
1 month 26 days ago

He may arguably be our second most important player this series. If he isn’t hitting, I don’t know if our other shooters generate enough gravity to draw the Pacers out. If the cavs other shooters go nova and hit some of these shots against hard closeouts by the Pacers or put the ball on the floor after the catch and get secondary kick outs I think it probably forces the Pacers to stop shading so much towards LBJ. Kind of incredible he has still had efficient shooting games against this kind of d.

running jumper
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running jumper
1 month 26 days ago

I see your point. But we have so many shooters. None of them needs to go en fuego every game for us to win. Having at least 2 of them at the same time on the floor is so easy. Place two of them there and have a couple more extra pass and we could absolutely break down Indiana. I don’t know how hard is that for the coaching staff when it is why we primarily get all these players in the first place. LeBron is also a culprit, but the coaching also needs him to follow what they need to do!

JOHN B
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JOHN B
1 month 26 days ago

I think putting it on the floor to blow by a hard closeout will open up the offense a lot more as long as guys cut and/or make the extra pass once the Pacers collapse on the driving shooter. Unfortunately we don’t seem to have a ton of guys that are comfortable putting the ball on the floor.

However it doesn’t take much, just a few hard dribbles in to pull the defense in again and then a pass to a cutter or a secondary kick out. Basically I think we need to get more secondary penetration to bend and even break the defense a little more.

CLF
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CLF
1 month 26 days ago

The problem with executing that strategy is the lack of chemistry…. you have to know where everybody rotates once the drive and kick happens and I don’t think they have the chemistry to execute a series of drive and kicks.

JOHN B
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JOHN B
1 month 26 days ago

Yeah, unfortunately that is probably true.

CLF
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CLF
1 month 26 days ago

They have two days before game 5…. you just might get your wish.

MikeO
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MikeO
1 month 26 days ago

They needed every bit of it. I was terrified because his first four shots looked horrible. Those threes appeared to give Lebron a bit of a second wind (sure gave me one). Have to play better in the third. No reason for these swoons.

TV63
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TV63
1 month 26 days ago

Whew ! They Won! I’ve been banned upstairs when the Cavs are on. It’s been TOUGH! I groaned when it was them we had to play in 1st round. I really hope they keep climbing out of this. Pacers are not a typical NBA team. I’m not surprised it has been really hard for Cavs.

CLF
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CLF
1 month 26 days ago

Rebounding and assists a problem tonight.

Nate Smith
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1 month 26 days ago

Part of the assists were the amount of fouls in the first half and the amount of uncalled fouls in the second. YEs, LeBron did have some settle shots.

CLF
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CLF
1 month 26 days ago

Yup… I can see that, the physicality is making passing tough. Another good point JB about the closeouts…. Pacers totally selling out to stop the 3. KLOVE only pump faked once, but he got a wide open J out of it.

JOHN B
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JOHN B
1 month 26 days ago

I also think the pacers did do a pretty great job at closing hard on shooters. A lot of the looks might have technically been open as per the rest of the series but the window to shoot seems pretty small in general. Most of the time the Pacers seem to be within 5 feet by the time the ball is released and closing fast. I think that is affecting a lot of our shooters besides JR and Korver.

CLF
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CLF
1 month 26 days ago

Great point.

RightDownEuclid (the first)
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RightDownEuclid (the first)
1 month 26 days ago

TV63
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TV63
1 month 26 days ago

Or on the team and Cav Fans!!

Nate Smith
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1 month 26 days ago

Game shouldn’t have been so close. Pacers had SOOO many uncalled fouls. Hopefully the Cavs pour it on next game.

Peter
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Peter
1 month 26 days ago

I have to say that the Pacers and the Heat play the most belligerent defense. I think the Pacers give the most gratuitous hacks . Perkins should see at least a minute of action and deliver two hard fouls on Stephenson and Oladipo.

CLF
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CLF
1 month 26 days ago

No kidding. Someone needs to deck these fools.

Phil Hubbard
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Phil Hubbard
1 month 26 days ago

The old folks catch a break now with two days off before game 5.

Nate Smith
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1 month 26 days ago

Phil Hubbard
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Phil Hubbard
1 month 26 days ago

MikeO
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MikeO
1 month 26 days ago

Copying Russ there. That was delightful.

RightDownEuclid (the first)
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RightDownEuclid (the first)
1 month 26 days ago

Lol based on a cursory look, the Cavs have lowest points allowed of any team in playoffs save Pacers. Remember when we were all saying Cavs gonna with defense and JR?

JOHN B
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JOHN B
1 month 26 days ago

Hehe. Wild. Clearly with this style of offense that is so reliant on isos and mismatches, you really are going to struggle without a secondary playmaker if the other team decides to pack the paint and is able to recover enough to at least close out hard on shooters.

running jumper
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running jumper
1 month 26 days ago

aka what the Golden State Warriors can do to us.

JOHN B
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JOHN B
1 month 26 days ago

I am not counting my chickens. At this point I will be thrilled just to get to the finals. But yeah, with their length and athleticism the windows will be even smaller to shoot. I could see incredibly low shooting efficiency similar to 2015 from LBJ and co without that secondary playmaker if they get to the finals and it is against the warriors.

JOHN B
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JOHN B
1 month 26 days ago

I somehow feel this may go seven. Cavs need to dominate at home.

Nate Smith
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1 month 26 days ago

Ty has to go watch film again…

Nate Smith
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1 month 26 days ago

Hope Love gets a bunch of shots up to get his rhythm in the next two days.

CLF
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CLF
1 month 26 days ago

His 3 point shot is way off… hopefully that clutch defensive stop on Collison will get his mojo going.

Nate Smith
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1 month 26 days ago

The Cavs need to get him more touches. He tries too hard to get a rhythm. He needs touches.

CLF
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CLF
1 month 26 days ago

Yup…. and he needs to learn that the playoffs they’re aren’t calling s***

RightDownEuclid (the first)
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RightDownEuclid (the first)
1 month 26 days ago

He has been taking time to pout before he gathers

CLF
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CLF
1 month 26 days ago

I shouldn’t laugh, but I did…. lol

JOHN B
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JOHN B
1 month 26 days ago

Cavs have to take care of business at home. It would be less than ideal to have to win game 6 at Indy to stay alive.

CLF
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CLF
1 month 26 days ago

Can’t believe they pulled that game out. I’m shocked…. Korver and KLOVE with clutch plays at the end with LBJ.

Nate Smith
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1 month 26 days ago

Honestly the Cavs had some really nice defensive adjustments when Indy started beating the trap. They did a couple things like springing the trap much later, and then just having guys get over and dropping the big cause Indy was using the P/R to set up jumpers instead of attacking.

running jumper
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running jumper
1 month 26 days ago

It has to do something with the players. We’ve got some capable guys since the trade and it’s paying off now. Offense is a different story tho..

JOHN B
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JOHN B
1 month 26 days ago

It is wild to me that the cavs d has been the least of the problems.

CLF
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CLF
1 month 26 days ago

Yup… and I can’t believe the offense has sputtered so much especially in the 2nd half.

TV63
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TV63
1 month 26 days ago

Do you think they are just tired? They haven’t really put that kind of effort in defense all season so it would be understandable to see them struggle like this to finish. They are playing more of a grind style

JOHN B
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JOHN B
1 month 26 days ago

Possible. Certainly I think LBJ is probably getting gassed.

RightDownEuclid (the first)
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RightDownEuclid (the first)
1 month 26 days ago

second best D in playoffs after Pacers

Vintage
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Vintage
1 month 26 days ago

Honestly, I can take missed shots (he was at least getting looks in the paint) but theres ZERO excuse for Love’s pouting and not hustling back on D – almost cost the game

Chris K
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Chris K
1 month 26 days ago

He learned that by watching LeBron…

Nate Smith
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1 month 26 days ago

And that ridiculous frustration foul on oladipo.

Mike Podracky
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Mike Podracky
1 month 26 days ago

Always been a huge KLove fan but he has been shockingly bad on offense. Still boarding, but getting the ball ripped away too

Nate Smith
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1 month 26 days ago

Dude has a jacked up thumb. He needed to be smarter, not stronger. That one where he tried to body young was just dumb. He lost his composure. Team needs to come together and encourage him. Love to see him have a big game coming back home.

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SorryKevin
1 month 26 days ago

As much as I like KLove, if LeBron stays past this season, I think he has to go. I don’t think KLove can be a second option on this team with LeBron. I thought that would change with KI leaving, but it really hasn’t. If we somehow can move the Brooklyn pick for a legit second option maybe he can stay, but if not we need to move him for a legit second option.

Peter
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Peter
1 month 26 days ago

Thad Young has gotten the better of him thus far. Hope he has breakout game in Game 5.

Chris K
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Chris K
1 month 26 days ago

Agreed–though your handle sounds like you’re hating….

SorryKevin
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SorryKevin
1 month 26 days ago

Not hating, I do like him…I just needed a username for the post…

Mike Podracky
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Mike Podracky
1 month 26 days ago

What is weird is that when Irving would be hurt in prior years , Love was generally very solid with James and usually scored over 20.

Vintage
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Vintage
1 month 26 days ago

He was rolling earlier in the season before the hand injury.. I thought his shot looked really good right before the playoffs started as he was working his way back. Not sure what has happened in this series.

RightDownEuclid (the first)
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RightDownEuclid (the first)
1 month 26 days ago

regular season

running jumper
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running jumper
1 month 26 days ago

Good. Now time to kill this in game 5.

JB225
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JB225
1 month 26 days ago

It’s unbelievable that the Cavs are only getting around 12 ppg and 10 rebs per game from KLove. That’s part of why this series is tied at 2.

TV63
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TV63
1 month 26 days ago

It won’t be the case if they get past them. They are playing Love very tough

RightDownEuclid (the first)
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RightDownEuclid (the first)
1 month 26 days ago

So JR showed up to play this series. Green and Korver came into their own. Who’s stepping up game 4? (cough cough Kevin)

Vintage
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Vintage
1 month 26 days ago

Need to come out with the same mentality in Game 5 – defensive effort was more or less there for 48 minutes. Big minutes from JR/Clarkson in the first half and Green/Korver in the 2nd half.

And can someone put out an APB for the real Kevin Love?

Phil Hubbard
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Phil Hubbard
1 month 26 days ago

The difference maker tonight…

RightDownEuclid (the first)
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RightDownEuclid (the first)
1 month 26 days ago

We all could have saved a lot of time and blood pressure medication if we just started a best of 3 on wednesday

Peter
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Peter
1 month 26 days ago

Jeez, these Cavs are giving me heart attack and premature aging.

John B
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John B
1 month 26 days ago

I would copy Indy’s defensive strategy against the Cavs exactly if I was every other team. Indy’s offense sputtered eventually but the sixers and Toronto likely won’t.

RightDownEuclid (the first)
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RightDownEuclid (the first)
1 month 26 days ago

I honestly believe the Cavs have more up their sleeve and Lue is holding back. Lue has done this in the past

JOHN B
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JOHN B
1 month 26 days ago

Holding back on the road down 1-2 in the first round against a team that blew us out in game one and has been in every single game until the final minute? That seems unnecessarily risky.

CLF
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CLF
1 month 26 days ago

Sounds exactly like Lue actually….

JOHN B
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JOHN B
1 month 26 days ago

I don’t think even Lue would do that. I mean Indy had the lead in the fourth. If he actually had something up his sleeve and didn’t use it, that is either insane confidence or insanity.

running jumper
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running jumper
1 month 26 days ago

I don’t see any sane person would keep his “tricks” when he’s on the verge of being possibly down 3-1.

running jumper
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running jumper
1 month 26 days ago

Ugh. Well he doesn’t have that much up in his sleeves then. We’re struggling against a .500 team for goodness sakes.

RightDownEuclid (the first)
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RightDownEuclid (the first)
1 month 26 days ago

it’s a 48 win team…

running jumper
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running jumper
1 month 26 days ago

Ok 48 then. Doesn’t matter. If we have real championship aspirations, no way we should be tied this series. Credit to Indiana for everything they’ve done great so far, but we all know we should have been WAAAAAAYYYY better than we’ve shown.

JOHN B
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JOHN B
1 month 26 days ago

That we were down on the road to. I don’t think you pull any punches if you are at risk of going down 1-3 in the first round.

RightDownEuclid (the first)
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RightDownEuclid (the first)
1 month 26 days ago

not saying it’s a good idea lol

MikeO
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MikeO
1 month 26 days ago

Lance is just a manic loose cannon. All the time. Tired of his act.

Tom Pestak
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1 month 26 days ago

i have no idea how this series is 2-2. Feels like Cavs should be fishing, yet here we are. LET’S GO

Chris K
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Chris K
1 month 26 days ago

Enjoy the fact that LeBron makes everything possible, and the Cavs are actually talented enough to overcome 33 starting lineups, a mid-season roster flip, Tyronne Lue, and the usual Cleveland karma…

TV63
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TV63
1 month 26 days ago

AMEN! Hopefully, the blessing continues!

Phil Hubbard
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Phil Hubbard
1 month 26 days ago

If it wasn’t a jump ball, which they called initially, and it wasn’t a flagrant, anyone know what they called and why they were able to change it from a jump ball?

Chris K
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Chris K
1 month 26 days ago

They called Stephenson for being a tool… should be eight shots and the ball…

Phil Hubbard
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Phil Hubbard
1 month 26 days ago

Lol! Explanation on TNT now from the NBA’s Joe Borgia — simultaneous foul and jump-ball calls by different refs. Foul takes precedence. Review was to see if there were any extracurriculars.

Mike Podracky
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Mike Podracky
1 month 26 days ago

Ref who called a jump ball is a total moron

MikeO
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MikeO
1 month 26 days ago

Think they called the foul, before the tie up. Which was the right call.

RightDownEuclid (the first)
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RightDownEuclid (the first)
1 month 26 days ago

RightDownEuclid (the first)
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RightDownEuclid (the first)
1 month 26 days ago

Grey pants…black pants…No pants Lance… I don’t care

CLF
Guest
CLF
1 month 26 days ago

LMAO… this meme never gets old.

Chris K
Guest
Chris K
1 month 26 days ago

This team is like my son’s rec baseball team–a work in progress. I do believe they will be better for having these game with the Pacers… being tested like they haven’t really been in the previous three years…

Raffy22
Guest
Raffy22
1 month 26 days ago

I feel the same, but man they look sh*tty right now. It’s a bad matchup for them, but there is still the MAJOR issue of not having a 2nd go to scorer.

Leo
Guest
Leo
1 month 26 days ago

maybe this win gets Cavs going as they head home….need to finish this Friday….no excuses

Jason
Guest
Jason
1 month 26 days ago

Whew!

I hope we grow as a team and get better. We need to.

Phil Hubbard
Member
Phil Hubbard
1 month 26 days ago

Listening to Marv and Webber on that jump ball — “It’s tough to tell who the aggressor was” — is giving me flashbacks to Tirico and Hubie on Olynyk-Love.

JB225
Guest
JB225
1 month 26 days ago

Exactly.

Tom Pestak
Admin
1 month 26 days ago

oh that was unreal.

RC Kim
Member
1 month 26 days ago

Wild game. Thank god they pulled it out, Korver and LeBron saved them.

Nate Smith
Admin
1 month 26 days ago

KYLE KORVER IS THE BALLS.

RightDownEuclid (the first)
Guest
RightDownEuclid (the first)
1 month 26 days ago

John B
Guest
John B
1 month 26 days ago

Pulled it out. Great d for the last 5-6 minutes

CLF
Guest
CLF
1 month 26 days ago

!#)($*& YOU LANCE!!!! TAKE THAT L!

Charlie E
Guest
Charlie E
1 month 26 days ago

Good call at the end. Thank goodness.

MikeO
Guest
MikeO
1 month 26 days ago

Lance needs kicked out of the league.

RC Kim
Member
1 month 26 days ago

Yeah, that was some of the dirtiest play I have seen in years.

Leo
Guest
Leo
1 month 26 days ago

how is Lance still in this league…they showed Silver at that game…how does he allow Lance to play rest of series? just embarrassing form of basketball

Chris K
Guest
Chris K
1 month 26 days ago

Thank God the refs got this right–Stephensen is a plague… please, C-Webb, be quiet….

Anonymous
Guest
Anonymous
1 month 26 days ago

SUCK IT, LANCE.

Nate Smith
Admin
1 month 26 days ago

WHEW!

RightDownEuclid (the first)
Guest
RightDownEuclid (the first)
1 month 26 days ago

I’ll give this to Jeff. He’s mature and collected

Jason
Guest
Jason
1 month 26 days ago

He played fairly well tonight.

Jason
Guest
Jason
1 month 26 days ago

A foul. Good call. At least Green did not get a tech.

Nate Smith
Admin
1 month 26 days ago

Come on, Jeff.

Nate Smith
Admin
1 month 26 days ago

Got 1! Two possession game.

John B
Guest
John B
1 month 26 days ago

They are nuts if they don’t call a foul on lance. Did he have some ball? Yes while his arms were wrapped around greens neck

Nate Smith
Admin
1 month 26 days ago

You can’t put your hands around a guys head and then tackle him even when you get the ball.

JB225
Guest
JB225
1 month 26 days ago

So you can grab the arms and head off the player and it’s not a foul?

Vintage
Guest
Vintage
1 month 26 days ago

And then pull a player down and lie on top of him?

Phil Hubbard
Member
Phil Hubbard
1 month 26 days ago

Marv thinks Stephenson got all ball on Green!

John B
Guest
John B
1 month 26 days ago

Better ratings if Indy gets ball back

Dan
Guest
Dan
1 month 26 days ago

It seems like both of these jump balls should have been fouls. He has his arm wrapped around Green (and previously LeBron’s) heads. He’s making tons of contact when grabbing the ball.

Jason
Guest
Jason
1 month 26 days ago

Geez. I have zero confidence they get this right.

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