Recap: Nuggets 126, Cavs 117 (or, A Confederacy of Dunces)

“When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him.” — Jonathan Swift, Thoughts on Various Subjects, Moral and Diverting

Before you go expecting a deep dive into John Kennedy Toole’s famously posthumous, Pulitzer Prize winning novel as a pointed allegory for the current state of the Cleveland Cavaliers coaching staff… just know that it was merely the Jonathan Swift epigraph above that inspired the book title and my subsequent recap subtitle. Granted, Ty Lue has more than a few things in common with Ignatius J. Reilly, from his eccentric and abject stubbornness to his insistence on watching film to inform his worldview and narrative. Yet, where the novel descends into an episodic and tragicomic meandering through the American South… this recap will instead descend into an episodic and tragicomic meandering through the wasteland known as the Cavaliers’ defense.

It’s safe to say that nothing the Cavs tried against the Nuggets in varied attempts to stop them… or even slow them down… worked in the slightest. Not that the team stuck with any one sort of defensive scheme for any length of time…

“They had it going tonight offensively, so we just tried to throw everything at them,” Lue said. “We switched. We blitzed. We showed. We did a little of everything. They got hot.”

I suppose that might be a fair assessment, and even a reasonable excuse… except that it seems like we’ve heard something similar from Lue all too often this season. Sure, it’s been a little less often since half the roster was traded and upgraded at the trade deadline… yet, since the All Star Break, the only team that hasn’t scored at least 108 points on the new look Cavs were the League worst Memphis Grizzlies. The Nuggets are certainly no slouches, averaging 108.7 points per game, and being one of the higher paced offenses in the NBA. However, they came into this contest at a meager 10-19 on the road, and were on the second night of a back-to-back. Not to mention, Denver’s defense has actually been worse than Cleveland’s over the last month… meaning all the Cavs had to do was put up enough resistance to tip the scales in their favor.

Unfortunately, Lue’s explanation goes to the root of why the team failed to prevail in this one… because, if you try to do a little of everything… it often means you don’t accomplish anything.

Offensively, the Cavs hung with the hot-shooting Nugs initially behind the efforts of George Hill and Cedi Osman. The Jedi hit an efficient 4-5 shots (including a dunk off a LeBron assist) for eight quick points, and Hill was equally impressive going 3-4 (with a three) for seven points and three dimes in the opening frame. LeBron dished five of his own assists, including an alley oop to Tristan Thompson, to go with six points. The only starter who didn’t score in the period (actually the entire first half) was the soup slinging JR Smith. In fact, JR had a rare box score goose egg going without even a shot attempt before halftime. Meanwhile, the Nuggets quickly tested the saggy perimeter defense of the Cavaliers with a barrage of threes in transition halfway through the quarter to open a double digit margin. Luckily, Larry Nance Jr. checked in at that point… and took a defensive rebound coast-to-coast for a Statue of Liberty slam…

Hops like pops indeed.

With Nance manning the paint, the Cavs were just able to keep the Nuggets under 40 for the opening period of play. He kept his trademark hustle and intensity going into the second quarter as well, working in tandem with Jordan Clarkson to create some beautiful pick and roll action. The big man was lively and electric, scoring 10 of his 14 points in the quarter while channeling his namesake with a smooth 17 footer and this absolute baptism of Mason Plumlee…

Together, Nance and Clarkson scored the first 19 points of the period for the Cavs. Once Nance subbed out for Thompson, however, Gary Harris started going nuts from downtown… scoring 10 of his game high 32 points in the frame. LeBron kept the Cavs semi-close with a triple and another three the hard way on an and one… but Denver hung 73 first half points on Cleveland for a lead of 11 going into the break.

During his halftime interview with Allie Clifton, assistant coach Jim Boylan had the temerity to suggest that the defensive schemes looked okay, but that the Cavs just weren’t being physical enough in defending the Nuggets. While his statement about physicality was accurate, the part about the schemes rang hollow. Clearly, the schemes are not okay if the opposition has 24 assists at halftime because most possessions end with an open shot.

Events did change for the better to open the second half though… primarily because JR Smith started to boil. You’d have thought the ball had a Campbell’s sticker on it the way JR was slinging it for the first few minutes of the half. After not attempting a shot in the first half, JR swished his first four of the second… helping the Cavs claw back to a five point deficit halfway through the period. Out of a timeout, Jamal Murray bombed a three, and then LeBron got jostled a bit on a missed alley oop… leading to a true anomaly in the game… a Ty Lue technical. It was the very first tech of the season for Coach Lue (only the third of his career), but it was long overdue. Unfortunately, it seemed to have the opposite effect on his team, as Gary Harris and Wilson Chandler hit threes to give Denver it’s largest lead of the game at 15. After an ill-advised Nance triple try out of a time out, the Cavs buckled down on defense, and LeBron found George Hill twice and Jordan Clarkson once for deep balls. The Cavs rode a 13-4 run to end the third down by just four.

Cleveland continued to climb out of the hole in the fourth, as JR kept up his piping hot shooting. Swish made his first three shots of the quarter, including a triple and this shifty step back…

Yet, every time it looked like they might overtake the Nuggets… one of the Denver sharpshooters would pop open and drain another long range bomb. The Cavs did manage to close the gap all the way to a single point on a pair of LeBron free throws, 115-114, with 2:40 remaining. From there, however, Denver went on an 11-0 run to put the game out of reach. JR went cold, missing his last three attempts from deep, and the Cavs committed a crucial turnover when they couldn’t afford a mistake. Not to mention, they continued to leave Nuggets wide open from the corners.

The Evil

The Cavs allowed the Nuggets to shoot at about a 60% clip for most of the game. Only a combination of effort and likely tired legs from the Nugs on their second night of a back-to-back dragged them down to a mere 55% by the end of the game. Hot shooting or not, it doesn’t take a genius to figure out that guys left open in the corner are probably going to hit those opportunities. The Nuggets also drained 19 threes (on just 35 attempts) for a 54.3% average.

Denver kept finding the open man with the extra pass all night long (to the tune of a whopping 35 assists), mainly because the Cavs were trapping or over helping on defense and leaving shooters wide open. Ty Lue might want to consider holding off on the “switch everything” defense until guys start playing better man defense. The Cavs missed Jeff Green in the front court tonight, but also got shredded by a guard heavy lineup for the Nuggets.

The numbers don’t look horrible for Tristan (12 points on 6-10 shooting and seven boards), but he was a team worst -18 in 28 minutes. Most of that is because TT gets repeatedly caught in the middle on defense. He’s been getting abused inside by big men and has been at least a step slow when switching onto guards on the perimeter. He’s lost his box out mojo, and can’t seem to dunk in traffic (with the exception of one lob he got sky high for early). Also, a lot of his rebounds lately are of the “nobody in the area” variety after a long jumper. His days as a starter should be more numbered than they seem.

First half JR was an absolute zero. Zero points… zero attempts… zero impact on the game. He redeemed himself in the second half, but even a couple of buckets early could have potentially swung the outcome.

Though he had a few nice hoops off the dribble, Rodney Hood struggled mightily from the outside (0-4), including another crucial wide open miss late in the game. The honeymoon period is just about over on the new guys, and Hood needs to start stepping up in these situations.

Waiting to hear if Kyle Korver was sick or injured… otherwise, no real reason he should have received just the seven minutes he did in this game. Certainly seems like the Cavs could have used some of his three point threat down the stretch.

I’m creating a kickstarter campaign to collect and burn all of the awful grey uniforms so the Cavs will stop wearing them. They’re now 1-5 on the season when they wear them.

The Genius

Larry Nance, Jr. is just awesome. He not only had the “hops like pops” going, but just completely changed the dynamics of the Cavalier defense when he was out there. He showed a well-rounded game with epic dunks and smooth mid-range jumpers, and was active on the boards with eight. Yes, he banged knees with a Nugget later in the fourth, but by his own admission felt fine to come back into the game. Other than that, there’s really just no excuse for him getting 20 minutes vs. Tristan’s 28. He did pick up some ticky-tack fouls, but still had two more to give. Nance has got to play more for this team to have a real shot.

LeBron messed around and got one of the quieter triple doubles you’ll see, with 25 points, 15 assists and 10 rebounds. He got to the line quite a bit (8-11), but really seemed focused on setting up his teammates in this game. If Korver plays a bit more, and Hood and JR hit their shots down the stretch… LBJ probably cracks 20 dimes.

Second half JR almost shot the Cavs back into this one. After his zero in the first half, he was aggressive coming out of the break and went on a 7-8 tear. He finished 0-4 which tempered things a bit, but still it was good to see him come alive with confidence for a while. It even inspired me to find a soup pipe…

George Hill was solid if unspectacular, with a workmanlike 17 points (6-10, 3-4 from three) and four assists. He had one critical turnover late, and his defense wasn’t tremendously on point… but still a decent overall game.

Cedi had a pretty brilliant offensive night, 6-7 shooting for 13 points, but also struggled a bit getting to the right spots on closeouts. He also picked up a few more touch fouls that seem to always find rookie defenders. The Cavs could have used some of his energy late, but he didn’t see the floor in the fourth until garbage time.

Jordan Clarkson had some good moments, especially combining with Nance to pace the Cavs to start the second quarter. He didn’t jack too many shots, and knocked down two big threes. Although, he did miss a couple of layups down the stretch. JC could still benefit by keeping his head up on drives because he’s still missing a few open options.

The Dunce-worthy

I’m tired of hearing about how the defensive schemes aren’t the problem from Ty Lue and his assistant coaches. There’s no reason a group of relatively young and athletic guys can’t defend at a higher level than this. And, by the way… if JR and TT are the primary culprits in being either a step slow, or mixed up on a rotation (which they frequently are)… then they should ride the pine. It’s not rocket science.

Here’s an idea… how about instead of trying a bit of everything on defense… you just try to excel at basic man defense. So many times, the Cavs get burned trying to trap or show and recover. Just play teams straight up and stop switching everything until you’ve had time to establish better communication between all of the new and old pieces.

Ty once balked at Isaiah Thomas’ assertion that the coaching staff was incapable of making adjustments within the flow of the game. But, honestly, that often seems like the case. Why does it take an entire half to try and run some plays for JR Smith to get him going? Why does it take 10 minutes of Tristan getting blocked, blown by and generally clogging up the offense before installing Larry Nance? Why stick with guys way too long and exhaust them? Why play LeBron 42 minutes… even if he says he wants to start the fourth quarter? Why keep Korver on the bench in a shoot out against a team that’s knocking down threes at a better than 50% clip?

Why suddenly can’t this team win at home?

Why are guys who used to play here now playing better elsewhere?

Why does Mike Longabardi still have a job?!

Why?

It’s a Season of Why?

Maybe we’re all the confederacy of dunces… unable to understand the genius of Ty Lue’s decision-making. But, somehow I doubt it. And, from the sound of it… even some of the staunchest outside supporters are starting to as well…

There’s still time to fix this… at least, there would be provided Ty Lue doesn’t subscribe to the belief that the outside world are the confederacy of dunces that get in his way. Instead of studying the film of the game, he should start with the film of himself staring slack jawed on the sidelines, dumbfounded as to why his defensive schemes aren’t being executed properly. Maybe the realization will finally dawn that coaching isn’t just about the ability to make adjustments… but more importantly about the timing of them and commitment to following through.

Or… maybe I’m just a dunce to believe things can change…

Well… fingers crossed.

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6 months 14 days ago

should bury Lue in a pile of this years Cavs jerseys. Then light it all on fire.

JoeyB
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JoeyB
6 months 14 days ago

Lue’s coaching philosophy: Keep playing with rotations until one works, then never sub them out until the end of the game.

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6 months 14 days ago

agree with scotch—-might help –HOOD / starting —also —at this stage of the season (and our recent performances ) I think you need to try some diiferent things NOW ans see how they work / don’t work instead of LATER —–would like to see ANTE get some run tonight especially against Drummond —-again got to find out what he can / cannot do

Scotch
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Scotch
6 months 14 days ago

I’m actually ok with Cedi coming off the bench if it means more minutes for him. Lue might respond better if he sees Cedi impact the game immediately upon entry regardless of playing with starters or not. That impact is what gave Cedi the opportunity to start in place of injured guys in the first place.

JB225
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JB225
6 months 14 days ago

No TT and possibly no Lue, well I’m really looking forward to tonight’s game lol.

JoeyB
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JoeyB
6 months 14 days ago

Yeah. Somebody give Longabardi diarrhea and I guarantee a win.

Mike Podracky
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Mike Podracky
6 months 14 days ago

Lue has been sick a lot this year, and we are sick of his rotations. That’s for sure.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
6 months 14 days ago

Glad TT is out of the starting line up.

Nate Smith
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6 months 14 days ago

If Hood starts over cedi… Ugh.

Joeyb
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Joeyb
6 months 14 days ago

Cedi doesn’t need to start. Hood might be a better fit if he’s willing to hustle on d.

Nate Smith
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6 months 14 days ago

What evidence is there that he does hustle or that he’s going to start shooting better?

JoeyB
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JoeyB
6 months 14 days ago

Because we’re going to need Hood AND Cedi. So the question needs to be how do we get Hood going, because Cedi is already going. He’s going whether he starts or comes off the bench. Hood appears to have a more difficult mood to manage. JR has a difficult mood to manage. You wish it wasn’t the case, but it is. It’s not a reason to just ignore the player. Hood will be needed if this team is to win a championship. So ill J.R., and Cedi, and Nance and Clarkson and Hill. We’re going to need them all.

Scotch
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Scotch
6 months 14 days ago

Lol Nate this is the kind of facts’ bias you will not see Tye Our cower in the face of!

JMay
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6 months 14 days ago

That’s the only move that really makes any sense if Cedi is indeed being benched.

Nate Smith
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6 months 14 days ago

\"newnomad \"
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\"newnomad \"
6 months 14 days ago

just read where reed was charged with domestic violence –???—-what about josh smith / KJG’S POSSIBLE CHOICE

Nate Smith
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6 months 14 days ago

No and no

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\"newnomad \"
6 months 14 days ago

not a bad idea mikeo

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6 months 14 days ago

Marcus thornton’s 10 day contract has expired ( no surprise there )–cavs with 2 open roster spots —-Peter mentioned possibly signing BOGUT —–kind of like that thinking —-any opinions wjo cavs should pursue—-maybe MY FAVORITE –“ENCHILADA ” also——-

MikeO
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MikeO
6 months 14 days ago

Willie Reed, maybe.

Jason
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Jason
6 months 15 days ago

Whew!

Kings pull it out on a triple with less than 10 secs left.

Clips take the lead on a Rivers 3 & Sweet Lou scores after a TO. Harris has a 3 blocked. Game over.

Wins:
18 = Grizz
19 = Suns, Mavs
20 = Nets, Hawks, Kings (44 Ls), Magic (43)
21 = Bulls

Monday:
Suns (b2b) at Heat
Celtics at Bulls
Grizz at Spurs
Magic at Jazz

MikeO
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MikeO
6 months 15 days ago

Go Kings!

Jason
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Jason
6 months 15 days ago

Kings/NY tied with 16 secs left. Kings ball.

Clips down 2 with the rock. 1+ min left.

Jason
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Jason
6 months 15 days ago

Meanwhile, the Kings are blowing the game vs NY. Tied with 30 scds left. Last Kings point at 4+ minutes left. Ugh.

Jason
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Jason
6 months 15 days ago

Nets are gonna win methinks. Up 5 with 4 minutes left. Making a ton of 3s. Williams cold for Clips.

Jason
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Jason
6 months 15 days ago

Nets have tied the Clips with 8.5 mins left. Cunningham has helped them. Man, when the Nets do better in the buyout market than you do, are you really a contender?

Kings up 11 on NY with 6 mins left.

Jason
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Jason
6 months 15 days ago

Interesting Cavs tidbits from Peltob’s mailbag today.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22639196/kevin-pelton-weekly-mailbag-including-lebron-james-not-getting-rewarded-drives

He sort of debunks LeBron’s complaint about fouls on drives.

He also notes that the Cavs give up the most wide open 3s in the league (17.3 per game). Opponents are shooting 27% in tight contested 3s vs the Cavs, 6th lowest% in the league. Our issue is giving up too many wide open 3s, and that goes to scheme.

JB225
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JB225
6 months 14 days ago

To be honest the Cavs can’t defend anything. If they are not allowing wide open 3’s then they are allowing a layup drill. They are just really bad defensively. Most of it is effort and bad conditioning IMO.

Nate Smith
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6 months 15 days ago

And lazy closeouts

TheOtherJason
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TheOtherJason
6 months 15 days ago

yahhs!! tt injured. now if we can just get lue and JR injured we’ll be set for the playoffs

Sim
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Sim
6 months 14 days ago

Ya we would be on a roll!

Peter
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Peter
6 months 15 days ago

Might be a good idea to sign Andrew Bogut to a 10-day contract. Larry Nance goes hard all the time and is a high risk to injury and foul trouble. Even if he doesn’t sustain an injury, he could wear down before the play-offs.

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6 months 15 days ago

CLIPPERS UP BY 12 AT HALF OVER THE NETS—GO CLIPS !!

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6 months 15 days ago

IF I AM KOLBY I AM CALLING / TEXTING FIZDALE ALREADY —-GET THE “TABLE SET “—

Nate Smith
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6 months 15 days ago

IMO. Fiz wouldn’t pick up the phone. You don’t interview for another man’s job while he’s sitting in the chair.

Nate Smith
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6 months 15 days ago

Kobe won an Oscar. I’m. In shock.

Jason
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Jason
6 months 15 days ago

Hopefully we get a big in the draft. Ayton, Banba, or Jackson.

I think we ride this season out. Unless we win it all, Lue is out & we hire Fizdale.

JMay
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6 months 15 days ago

I have never seen a coach fail so miserably. Honestly, my high school basketball coach made adjustments quicker than Lue.

Jason
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Jason
6 months 15 days ago

TT should be the 10th-11th man. Eat some regular season minutes & bang some. Nance & Love should play at least 36 min at C.

Jason
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Jason
6 months 15 days ago

Hawks beat the Suns by one on a go ahead three with 7 seconds left. Mavs fall to streaking Pels who have won 7 straight.

Kings hosting Knicks. Nets at Clips. Both tipped.

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\"newnomad \"
6 months 15 days ago

WHERE ARE YOU “BIG EDY TAVARES ” ?

Nate Smith
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6 months 15 days ago

Tearing it up in Spain.

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6 months 15 days ago

and yes mike –agree t.t. looks pudgy —out of shape—which is only going to get worse / not being able to workout / play —–besides ANTE — do you think cavs pursue / look for another big ?

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6 months 15 days ago

OR IS IT ‘PLANNED “—-NEVER KNOW —-GOOD EXCUSE TO PLAY OTHER GUYS -AND NOT ” THROW T.T. UNDER THE BUS “—-AND YES ANOTHER EXCUSE FOR TY– WHY THE CAVS LOST —-JUST SAYING —–” NOMAD’S CONSPIRACY THEORY “——-PROBABLY TOO MANY BEERS INFLUENCING MY RATIONAL THINKING

Jason
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Jason
6 months 15 days ago

Once again, injuries force Lue to do the smart thing. Start Nance. Play Zizic a tad.

Jason
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Jason
6 months 15 days ago

This is why carrying only 4 bigs is so stupid. Especially if 1 is developmental. Nance is our only big now.

believeLAND
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believeLAND
6 months 15 days ago

Really well written recap, EG. Thank you.

Nate Smith
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6 months 15 days ago

Is it me or is this bizarre?

Mike Podracky
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Mike Podracky
6 months 15 days ago

Yeah weird photo with the shorts. This photo also show how chunky TT has gotten. I am guessing 10-15 lbs above his ideal weight.

Jake
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Jake
6 months 15 days ago

We are gonna play a lot better with tt our stats show we r 25pp 100p better with nance in there

Sim
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Sim
6 months 15 days ago

Crazy news feel bad for tt. Let’s face it though last time he was out we win like 18 strait

MikeO
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MikeO
6 months 15 days ago

Last time he was out Cavs had Love to play minutes, too.

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6 months 15 days ago

per CAV RUMORS—T.T. HAS SEVERE ANKLE SPRAIN—-TO MISS SEVERAL GAMES —CAN YOU SAY ” L-JR “/ 35 MINUTES —–“FREE ANTE “——-HATE TO SEE T.T. GET HURT TO PROVE NANCE DESERVES MORE MINUTES AND ANTE SOME PLAYING TIME ——-ONLY PROBLEM THEIR GOES ANOTHER “TY EXCUSE FOR LOSING “

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\"newnomad \"
6 months 15 days ago

SO WE HAVE THE PISTONS AT HOME ON MONDAY –(2-8 IN LAST 10 GAMES )—I AM PUTTING MY MONEY ON THE PISTONS

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\"newnomad \"
6 months 15 days ago

SAM AMICO / AMICO HOOPS –FOR ABOUT THE 4TH GAME IN A ROW —-ATTACKING / CRITICIZING TY AND COACHING STAFF —-HOPEFULLY THIS IS NOT A GOOD SIGN FOR TY

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\"newnomad \"
6 months 15 days ago

OH YEAH GREAT RECAP EVIL — ( ADMIRE ALL YOU WRITERS FOR SUFFERING THRU POST GAMES )–AND YES “BURN THE GRAY UNIS—-GIVE ME THE ORANGE ” !!!

\"newnomad \"
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\"newnomad \"
6 months 15 days ago

nate –” he has to watch the film “—-we are all tired of tycluelessexcuses—-put up or shut up or better yet just plain get out ———-why do most of the ex cavs players play better when they leave / get traded and why do most incoming players games drop a level—point to 1 thing COACHING —-SYSTEM ( OR LACK OF )—DO THE CAVS EVEN HAVE AN OFFENSIVE / DEFENSIVE IDENITIY ( OTHER THAN LEBRON )——-though –still hoping ‘THE HOOD ” –brings more to the table ( is he in a contract year ? )——-getting to the point in the season where attention maybe more –are we ready for playoffs / how far can we advance ——-to watching the nets and how many games can they lose —-HOPE I AM DEAD WRONG —-I JUST DON’T THINK EVEN WITH KLOVE HEALTHY WE GET OUT OF THE EAST—MIGHT EVEN GET ELIMINATED IN 2ND ROUND ——–I SAY THAT BECAUSE OF THE ‘DUNCES ” THAT ARE CALLING THE SHOTS —OR NOT CALLING ANYTHING !!!

Nate Smith
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6 months 15 days ago

I hate to say it but the the best thing that could happen to the Cavs is to lose much that Ty gets canned. Ty, Damon, and Longabardi can all go.

Nate Smith
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6 months 15 days ago

Ty seems to take 2-3 games to react to things. Most nba coaches take 2-3 plays.

believeLAND
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believeLAND
6 months 15 days ago

1-2 plays***

Sim
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Sim
6 months 15 days ago

Great way to put it!

Nate Smith
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6 months 15 days ago

For as praised as some of Ty Lue’s inbounds offense has been at times, it’s been terrible defensively. He is awful defensively.

Nate Smith
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6 months 15 days ago

When they came out in the second half trapping, and it worked for a couple plays, Malone called timeout. I knew the next play was going to smoke the Cavs’ trap. It did. I am a huge proponent of changing your D out of a time out and giving the team another look. And to respond to Leo below, traps do work in the NBA, but you can’t use them frequently and you have to have quick players on the backend. They’re great for mixing it up for a Few plays and then changing it up. Teams figure out his scheme and adjust. He just reacts soooooo slowly.

Leo
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Leo
6 months 15 days ago

Depends on who has the ball if traps would work, but we were doing them against their guards and they quickly got rid of ball and traps became useless, they basically swung around perimeter for open 3s throughout second half. Just think guards and even small forwards are too quick and talented for traps and full/half court presses to work in NBA…Cavs just needed to play man up and they would’ve been much more successful….its all about trust, and usually traps, presses are done because of lack of trust in defensive system

Jason
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Jason
6 months 15 days ago

Three words: Jeff Van Gundy.

believeLAND
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believeLAND
6 months 15 days ago

Lebron would not listen to a single word from JVG

Nate Smith
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6 months 15 days ago

Fizdale.

Jason
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Jason
6 months 15 days ago

I would take that.

steve O
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steve O
6 months 15 days ago

definition of insanity being played out by Lue game in and game out…. it’s amazing you see this in NBA – what is supposed to be an championship contending team. What’s more shocking is that owner/GM are willing to fork out the money for players, luxury tax, etc. and yet, either is blinded by this or they themselves are fools believing in Lue or belief that things will rectify on their own.

Does Bron not see this about coaching staff? it’s awful late in the game …

TheOtherJason
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TheOtherJason
6 months 15 days ago

we’re playing better after the trades. showed heart in each of the last two… just missing that slight (coaching) edge that better rotations and schemes would push us forward

Sim
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Sim
6 months 15 days ago

I think tt and jr in the starting lineup really sap our energy and we can’t get the game started on the right foot and to begin 3rd quarter. Jr rusty shooting numbers don’t do near justice for his spaced out/late defense, and overall moody play. Time for lue to grow some balls and stop playing them.

Peter
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Peter
6 months 15 days ago

That Larry Nance 3-point attempt coming off a timeout was just pure genius from the coaching staff. It’s Tristan Thompson’s turn the next game to hoist a 3-poInter. Oh wait, Thompson tried a jump shot against Joel Embid the game before and was resounded blocked. Just pure genius!

TheOtherJason
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TheOtherJason
6 months 15 days ago

lue watched monty python the night before – ‘no one expects the nance 3!’

Leo
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Leo
6 months 15 days ago

Trapping never works in the NBA, guards are too guard and too quick; not sure why the Cavs stuck to that when Nuggets beat it every time. Also seems at times some of the Cavs are tentative to take a shot even when slightly open…JR is like that all the time, Hood is starting to get that way too.

I did see Korver with back heat pad on even in first half so wonder if he had lower back issues like Green. I think Cavs need to play Zicic and Holland in games even for 3-5 min just to see if they are any worse than TT and JR. I think its break even. Holland is not afraid to shoot, hustles like crazy in his spot minutes, and those are things we look for in JR all the time.

Nance is a baller, what a pickup. Clarkson needs to view tape and look for open man, he could easily average 7-8 dimes a game even off bench. Hill is reminding me of his Pacer days, some games he looks awesome and others he is ‘meh’.

Mike Podracky
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Mike Podracky
6 months 15 days ago

Share all of EG’s frustrations in this season of why. A most telling condemnation of the coaching is the question he asks: Why are the guys who used to play here playing better elsewhere? So far, Crowder in Utah again looks like 90-95% of the player he was in Boston, yet was totally lost in the Cavs’ “system.” And it does look like Irving and IT were right about the Cavs’ coaching stunting development, and not making necessary in-game adjustments. I lashed out at the comments initially given their sources, but there is a large kernel of truth in them. Allie Clifton often comes out of timeout huddles, and says Lue’s player message is, “Stick with it.” Profound. I do hope the Cavs don’t stick with Lue after this season is over. Losing 4/5 at home is really inexcusable with the only win being against the Nets, and that game was close.

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MikeO
6 months 15 days ago

I can feel your frustration. I think with Love out, the Nuggets have a better roster than the Cavs other than Lebron. Also, getting out on shooters late with a hand up just isn’t going to cut it against good shooters — they will shoot >50% on you. You need to guard guys close and make then put it on the floor. Lebron was particularly lazy at this most of the game.

Unless TT is hampered by some injury that he can recover from, I think he’s done as a very effective NBA player. Guys like that can’t lose a step or two — losing a step or two for him means nailed to the bench or out of the NBA. I imagine that he continues to start because Lue thinks he’d be completely ineffective without Lebron on the court.

Agree with you, EG, no reason the defense has to be this bad. It’s telling that the new guys looked better both ends before the coaching staff got them running ‘their’ stuff. They need to find a defensive scheme that they can play.

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