Podcap: Spurs 114, Cavs 102 (Approaching Critical Depth)

LeBron hits the 30K points mark as the Cavs continue to descend to the hull integrity critical depth. We’re standing in six inches of water, there’s a radiation leak in the engine room, someone’s dog took a had an accident in the cafeteria and when some Seaman tried scooping it up and flushing it down the toilet it just clogged…

We talked about the game, Isaiah Thomas, whether Ty Lue is trying to get fired, George Hill, potential Trades, Woj the ultimate Cavalier troll, and how the only thing with a lower production value than the Cavs on court play was the Subnautica Live Stream event today.

List above, on SoundCloud, Apple Podcasts or Google Play. Beware the klaxon. Stay safe out there.

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Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
11 months 28 days ago

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
11 months 28 days ago

Phil Hubbard
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11 months 28 days ago

Living here in Yankeeland, I remember his first home run — an upper-deck shot in Yankee Stadium to win a (meaningless) game near the end of the ’91 season.

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The other Thome moment was his game 5 homer that turned the ’95 ALCS in the Indians’ favor.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
11 months 28 days ago

The Q Transformation project still plans to continue. So I don’t think it matters if Gilbert sells the team or not.

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11 months 28 days ago

would be interesting to see what DE-R-“AINGED “–would give up for IT right now—–might get the custodian and a bag of popcorn —man did we get taken !!!

Raoul
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Raoul
11 months 28 days ago

IT was largely salary matching component on an KI for Net’s Pick trade?

JOHN B
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JOHN B
11 months 28 days ago

He was a huge piece. The cavs wanted to publicly be able to say they were getting an all star back.

Simmo
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Simmo
11 months 28 days ago

Lowe Post: “They could end up trading half this roster”. Well if any roster deserved it….

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11 months 29 days ago

so true phil—so true …AND SAD !!!

Phil Hubbard
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Phil Hubbard
11 months 29 days ago

So what’s new this morning in Days of Our Cavs / As the Cavs Turn / The Cavs and the Restless?

Mike Podracky
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Mike Podracky
11 months 28 days ago

I would suggest All My Children…..that soap aired for 40 years, which it seems is as long as the Cavs drama continues. LeBron shows his acting chops by playing the Susan Lucci role of Erika Kane…..the often scheming and devious anchor of the show. My wife loved AMC.

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11 months 29 days ago

i would be stunned if Hill is ONLY trade being made for Cavs, have to imagine other moves are on the way, crazy stuff has happened in this league, not saying Cavs would get top tier players in exchange but would not be surprised if major moves were made and its different team post 2/8/18.

MikeO
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11 months 29 days ago

President Brad Stevens is the no tie wearing business casual stud.

MikeO
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MikeO
11 months 29 days ago

Love to hear the words ‘Terry Rozier will check back in for Boston’

EvilGenius
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11 months 29 days ago

I think the Cavs should trade for Dwight Howard and Joe Johnson… so they can field almost half of the EC All Star Squad from 2011… //s

Scotch
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11 months 29 days ago

Dwight sucks obviously, but does brooke Lopez meet the criteria for a big man who could help our d AND our offense at the same time? I know this is unrelated to your sarcasm, but I dont have a good feel for what makes sense anymore. Like Tom said, crowder should have been a perfect fit but is apparently a tool and also had his best year last year. Doesnt Lopez make sense??

Cjef
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Cjef
11 months 29 days ago

Derrick Favors?

Nate Smith
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11 months 29 days ago

Dwyane Dedmon. The Lopez. Brothers are just too slow.

Phil Hubbard
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11 months 29 days ago

Phil Hubbard
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11 months 29 days ago

(Scotch, if it wasn’t clear, the meme is aimed at where the team is at, not at your comment.)

MikeO
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11 months 29 days ago

Brooke or Robin would be decent gets.

U-Dog
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11 months 29 days ago

Trade Kevin Love. Mentally and emotionally, he’s toast here. He’s the only tradeable piece with any value.
—Can we get Portland’s McCollum and Nurkic for Love and someone?
Give Jeff Green an opportunity to play his game and see if anything comes of it.
Play Calderon and Frye more.
Release JR & Rose.
Trade Crowder for some other team’s talented malcontent.
TT off the bench. Trade after the season.
** Lebron should coach the team (or Jason Kidd?) **
-> Don’t trade the pick.

MikeO
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11 months 29 days ago

Green has kind of reverted to being Jeff Green recently…to get McCollum, I’m guessing it would need to be Love and another big asset…at least…

Nate Smith
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11 months 28 days ago

He has?

U-Dog
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11 months 29 days ago

Trade IT for another player on an expiring contract (that we can re-sign).
. . . or, have him come off the bench and tell him he’s out of the game for good after his 10th shot. Tell him his job is to create for Korver, Frye, and Green.
Give anybody that plays defense the most playing time. Immediately sit anybody that plays lazy defense.

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U-Dog
11 months 29 days ago

Jose Calderon is the only player the Cavs have that makes the players around him better when he is on the floor.

Scotch
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11 months 29 days ago

So, realistically speaking, is there any really good coach that WANTS to coach LeBron? Carlisle, Pop, maybe Budenholzier, and whoever else folks consider to be really good to great coaches…does any one of them really want that? Pretty much since like brown, its been rookies or near rookies coaching LeBron. The longest tenured coach he has had was mike brown in 2009-2010.

LeBron is two players, the coach’s dream for his swiss army knife game, and the coach’s nightmare for his seeming inability to play within a system. In Miami there was pat Riley to back up Spo, and that lasted maybe one full season before lebron went back to no system again

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11 months 29 days ago

Luke Walton fits the bill.

Scotch
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11 months 29 days ago

I dont consider luke walton in the top tier of coaches yet, seeing as his claim to it is that he guided a championship team to continue winning, but he has a good start.

Scotch
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Scotch
11 months 29 days ago

Thats maybe too much devil’s advocate.

EvilGenius
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11 months 29 days ago

Great Cleveland moment of the day…

Arch Stanton
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11 months 29 days ago

Someone should build him a statue.

Mike Podracky
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Mike Podracky
11 months 29 days ago

Nice. I see Omar got 37%, which is better than I expected

EvilGenius
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11 months 29 days ago

Ironic Tweet of the day…

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
11 months 29 days ago

Hopefully Kevin doesn’t have any migraines during the AS game.

Mike Podracky
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Mike Podracky
11 months 29 days ago

KLove is IT’s “guy” the same way Brutus was Julius Caesar’s guy. The Shakespearean update spoken by Kev should be, “Et tu, Isiah.” Too late for sucking up IT given what you said in the closed door, and maybe even as the mole.

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11 months 29 days ago

They have known each other since they were teenagers so I wouldn’t read too much into the tension

MikeO
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11 months 29 days ago

Windhorst on the Lowe Post pretty much lived up to expectations…

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
11 months 29 days ago

Can you provide the cliff notes?

MikeO
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11 months 29 days ago

I’d listen to it…one of his points was Lebron keeps going back to last summer, when he felt the Cavs could have gotten Paul George…and he looks now at IT and Crowder and a draft pick that he doesn’t GAS about…and I’m ticked about that, too, although it’s hard to say for sure that Paul George was really on the way, or if it was just never happening…

They both talked about how horrendous the Cavs starting 5 have been, and Windhorst opined that it’s not realistic, but teams should send a clearly hampered player like IT trying to return from injury to the G league…he’s killing the Cavs right now, because he’s not physically ready to play…

Also Windy kept saying Frye and Shump were already Kings, just hasn’t been finalized yet…Windy also talked about a Love to Blazers trade centered around McCollum, but that was mainly spitballing…it’s a good listen.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
11 months 29 days ago

Nice, thanks for sharing.

MikeO
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11 months 29 days ago

Was just listening again to refresh myself, and the point was Lebron felt that the Cavs could have had George and Bledsoe (whether that is accurate or not), and to compound that, the Cavs could have backed out of the Celtic deal once the doctors weighed in on IT’s hip…I am totally with him here…I think the Cavs should have told Ainge to shove it when that news came out.

He also talked about how dispirited Lebron was when Lue threw that terrible starting unit back in the Spurs game in the 4th when it was still within reach. I don’t blame him — it’s not exactly a secret how terrible that group has been. And yeah, I know Lebron hasn’t been good either.

Arch Stanton
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11 months 29 days ago

Yeah, I think he’s kind of given up with this franchise. I don’t blame him at all as I also agree with how bad those trades were in the summer.

Raoul
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11 months 29 days ago

Most of the bad trades were forced by Kyrie and LeBron.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
11 months 29 days ago

Again, Kyrie had no leverage. I would not have made that deal with the Celtics. I would have demanded much more. Otherwise Kyrie is still a Cav.

Raoul
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11 months 29 days ago

And what trades would you have made?

MikeO
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11 months 29 days ago

You aren’t asking me, but I would have traded with PHX or MKE. I would have preferred PHX to send Irving to a terrible team.

JOHN B
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JOHN B
11 months 29 days ago

Yeah, seeming more and more like he leaves next year. Doesn’t matter what kind of cap space a team has. He wants to go somewhere, a team will find cap space to sign him. Could see him ending up in Houston or San Antonio.

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11 months 29 days ago

Another eye opener is Windhourst said – and he even prefaced it with ‘I can’t believe I am saying this’ – that Calderon should start over IT at this point.

Cjef
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11 months 29 days ago

I think in the finals Lue will have more authority to play the players who get results but now he has to find out what the Cavs have and give the big names their opportunity.

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11 months 29 days ago

Cjef – unfortunately Lue hasn’t shown that he will deviate much from his predetermined rotations. The fact he didn’t try the wildcat rotation during last year’s finals tells me so. He’s a horrible coach and should be fired.

Phil Hubbard
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11 months 29 days ago

The Gilbert rumor is plausible, but Stephen A. as the origin based on no sources sounds a lot like speculation.

MikeO
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11 months 29 days ago

Yeah, I wouldn’t be surprised, but I just assume anything SAS blurts out is some garbage rumor he heard from some moron.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
11 months 29 days ago

I know Durant wants to own an NBA team a season well. I’m sure LeBron wants to beat him to the punch.

Raoul
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Raoul
11 months 29 days ago

LeBron might pull it off.

Durant? He will wind up owning a car wash after he gets ripped off on every deal he tries.

Does Jordan actually own the Hornets? Or, is he a minority owner / frontman?

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
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IF GILBERT SELLS THE CAVS—DOES THIS AFFECT THE MODERNIZATION OF THE ‘Q”—–WHAT WILL BE THE NEW NAME

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
11 months 29 days ago

The Cavs would be moving to Akron and share the stadium with the Rubber Ducks.

Jason
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Jason
11 months 29 days ago

Cavs 3PT%,

Lue’s V: IT 28%, JR 33.8%, LBJ 36.2%, JC 32.4%, Love 39.9%.

Lue’s bench: Rose 20%, Wade 32.3%, Shump 26.9%, Korver 43%, Green 32.2%, TT = no attempts.

Lue’s out of rotation: Calderon 44.8%, Osman 35.7%, Frye 34.9%, Zizic no attempts; Holland 50%, Perrantes no attempts.

Phil Hubbard
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11 months 29 days ago

The Cavs’ analytics department has been locked in the basement of the Q, never to be heard from again.

Jason
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11 months 29 days ago

FWIW, Nets update, wins:
14 = Kings, Magic, Hawks
16 = Mavs
17 = Suns, Grizzlies
18 = Nets, Bulls, Lakers
19 = Jazz, Hornets

Tonight:
Pels at Hornets
Jazz at Pistons
Suns at Pacers
Bulls at 76ers
Raptors at Hawks
Rockets at Mavs
Spurs at Grizzlies

Jason
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11 months 29 days ago

I’d rate Cavs players like this:
1) Want them to stay: Love, LeBron, Korver, Green, Frye, Cedi, Calderon.
2) Want them to go: Lue, IT, Crowder, Shump
3) Meh: JR, Wade, TT, Zizic, Rose

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11 months 29 days ago

I like this list. IMO you can break down Cavs players this year into Good / OK, Kinda Sucks, or Sucks.
Good / OK: Love, LeBron, Korver, Green, Frye, Osman, Calderon, Wade
Kinda Sucks: Crowder, Smith
Sucks: Thomas, Shumpert, Thompson, Rose, Coach Lue
Can’t win when you give lots of minutes to guys that suck. Any trade where we can remove sucky players and get good or OK players is a must

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
11 months 29 days ago

Well if Gilbert is selling the team then I would think IT is gone after this season.

Jason
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11 months 29 days ago

If IT is bad-rapping Love, we should try to deal him. How much does Kemba make?

MikeO
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MikeO
11 months 29 days ago

12 mill per

Jason
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Jason
11 months 29 days ago

IT & Crowder for Kemba.

JOHN B
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JOHN B
11 months 29 days ago

Wishful thinking. We would have to give up more than that for Walker, though clearly last year was a bit of a career year as far as shooting/scoring efficiency.

Still he would be far better than a guy who shouldn’t even be in the league at this point. I just don’t think Charlotte does it without maybe taking back a bad contract and probably the cavs first rounder.

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11 months 29 days ago

I would

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FENG SHUI——CLEANING OUT THE GARBAGE / BAGGAGE / UNECESSARY ITEMS——-CREATING POSITIVE ENVIRONMENT ——TIME FOR THE CAVS TO GET ” FENG SHUI’D “—-

Arch Stanton
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11 months 29 days ago

Joeyb
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11 months 29 days ago

Please god

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11 months 29 days ago

per real gm —dan gilbert has interest in selling the cavs ( yeah he wants out too ) there you go Lebron be OWNER/ (FIRE TY–BE COACH / BE PLAYER

Jason
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11 months 29 days ago

It would be great if Gilbert is out. While he deserves credit for a willingness to spend, he also failed to create a stable organization. Never re-hired a GM. Coaching hires not so good.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
11 months 29 days ago

Pretty much what Jason said.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
11 months 29 days ago

Not sure if LeBron would be a good owner or not?!?!

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
11 months 29 days ago

Actually LeBron is notoriously cheap so I don’t think he’d be a good owner.

MikeO
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11 months 29 days ago

He’d be like Michael Jordan (also cheap) most likely…

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11 months 29 days ago

count me in with your “minority “—won’t go as far as I “love ” him but also believe he has taken a “bum ” rap that is not entirely his fault—-he does have the 2nd highest payroll –THAT PRESENTLY IS NOT PRODUCING —has tried to accommodate every “LeBron wish “—-signing of T.T. / SWISH / SHUMP bringing on wade etc.—as far as the griff thing who really knows what transpired there and I now do believe Chauncey saw “THIS TRAIN WRECK ” coming and that he would probably have to fire his good buddy ty —-wanted NO part of it

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11 months 29 days ago

and look at the players pop has drafted / or whatever —–not big name players —-but UNLIKE THE COACH OF THE CAVS ( GAD MAKES ME SICK EVERYTIME I MENTION THAT)—-he / the spurs have TRUST / DEVELOP their players unlike cedi / ante WASTING AWAY —–if we get hill( and get rid of shump ) –fine —but he will not ” move the needle ” that much to make us contenders –plus he is how old and what is his contract—–I stick to my guns BLOW IT UP –rather see them trade for solid young players / draft picks

Raoul
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11 months 29 days ago

If we get Hill and send JR, IT, and TT to the bench, things can recover quickly. That is assuming LBJ and KL are not going to be worn out all year from going to the finals three years in a row.

Cavs can start Hill, James, Love, Green, and let Jose and Rose and/or Wade alternate at PG. Let Crowder, Korver, Cedi, and Frye be the core of the second unit, maybe with Wade, maybe with TT.

If IT is badrapping Love, he is worse than the zero production he is putting up on the floor, he is cancer. Trade him ASAP for someone who wants the expiring contract.

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warriorsfan
11 months 29 days ago

Lakers have some players they are trying to unload, they might take IT.

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11 months 29 days ago

I believe even a bigger reason to fire Ty Lue than his abysmal rotations is the total deterioration of the defense over the last two years. Lue obviously can’t instill the right defensive mindset with this team given how much more statistically worse they have gotten. Their isn’t even a switch to flip anymore as it’s ripped off the proverbial wall. As debated on the podcast, I don’t think Lue is trying to get himself fired. Lue’s horrific decisions and poor leadership may lead to that outcome anyway……and I sure hope it does.

Last amazing point from Windy’s appearance on WKNR this morning: He believes that IT should be in the D league getting his act together instead of playing starting point guard for the Cavs. That won’t happen given the ego and political difficulty in sending someone like Isiah to that league. This comment is a glaring reflection, however, on just how bad IT is playing. Thomas was so wobbly on his feet and falling all over the place last night that one would think his blood alcohol content was 2.5.

Arch Stanton
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11 months 29 days ago

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
11 months 29 days ago

Tony Rizzo has jumped the shark:

JOHN B
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JOHN B
11 months 29 days ago

Keeping it classy, Rizzo. What a moron.

JRL
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JRL
11 months 29 days ago

Who’s Tony Rizzo?

John B
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John B
11 months 29 days ago

He’s a local Cleveland sports radio host. Never thought much of him my self.

JRL
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JRL
11 months 29 days ago

Ha, I was being sarcastic. I listened to him a few times and all I got from it was a shrilling headache. Verbal diarrhea.

Raoul
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Raoul
11 months 29 days ago

I was going to ask that too.

Raoul
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Raoul
11 months 29 days ago

Just when you thought things could not get worse, ….

TheOtherJason
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11 months 29 days ago

not sure what this is in refrrnce to?

Raoul
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Raoul
11 months 29 days ago

The Cavs, each new day. The fighting at meetings in particular.

Arch Stanton
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11 months 29 days ago

JOHN B
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JOHN B
11 months 29 days ago

I refuse to read anything into that. Obviously he has been treated like garbage. It doesn’t mean he wants out.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
11 months 29 days ago

Oh I didn’t read anything into it. They grew up together.

JOHN B
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JOHN B
11 months 29 days ago

Oh didn’t know that.

Raoul
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Raoul
11 months 29 days ago

Love played Little League with Klay, and travel basketball with IT. And his uncle was in the Beachboys.

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Bobby Nachos
11 months 29 days ago

Shannon Sharpe just goes OFF on IT

Mike Podracky
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Mike Podracky
11 months 29 days ago

Solid heated take by Sharpe. I never watch this show since I absolutely loath Bayless, so thx for posting.

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11 months 29 days ago

wow – hes really well educated on the cavs actually – only spot he missed was coach lue

JOHN B
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JOHN B
11 months 29 days ago

Yeah, he pretty well summed up the cavs personnel issues. I am done with the IT experiment. He only makes something like 6-7 million and is in the last year of his deal. Cut him.

He is one of the few players in the history of the nba that actually makes his team worse than if they were playing four on five. That is how bad he is. At this point he would be an abysmal d league player because of his defense and inability to score efficiently. Cut Crowder too if the guy moans about losing his little napoleon complex dwarf.

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11 months 29 days ago

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11 months 29 days ago

Windhorst believes that LeBron is so dispirited that it’s affecting his play now. Windy actually said he believes James chose not to try last night and take over the game, when LeBron came back in the 4th quarter. Also, Windy called Lue’s decision to bring back IT, JR and Crowder mid fourth quarter a dereliction of duty. I missed seeing Crowder walk over Kevin Love, when Love was on the ground, and that is a stunning disrespect of a teammate. Crowder and IT are both punks.

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11 months 29 days ago

Gilbert looks like a dope, although at the time I actually agreed with him (so I’m a dope too), for calling out the Pacers GM for the deal he got for PG. Looks like the Pacers know what they’re doing.

Arch Stanton
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11 months 29 days ago

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11 months 29 days ago

Oladipo is on a better team and is the main ball handler, yes he was that too in orlando but they sucked, and of course in OKC Westbrook didn’t care about him. just think its great fit for him and also think pacers are playing well as a TEAM, something our local team knows nothing about haha

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
11 months 29 days ago

I’ve always been a fan of Oladipo. I wanted the Cavs to take him over Bennett.

JMay
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11 months 29 days ago

The Cavs would have ruined him as bad, if not worse, as Orlando did.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
11 months 29 days ago

I know.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
11 months 29 days ago

I think the lesson of the season is NEVER MAKE A DEAL WITH DANNY (AINGE)!

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11 months 29 days ago

PREACH IT RAFFY22—PREACH IT—RIGHT THERE WITH YOU !!!——–have never seen a team so disjointed / no offensive / defensive schemes whatsoever —just hope LeBron and 3 pt shooting can get us a “w”–total B.S !!

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11 months 29 days ago

Ha. Thanks dude. And I’m with you on trading Love. He deserves better than this dumpster fire.

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DID NOT watch last night’s game ( probably will tune out for a long time —GARBAGE ) did see on ESPN when love got knocked down ch”CRAWDER —walked right over him –didn’t help him get up– WTF —-I say BUILD around LOVE –trade the rest of the garbage ( save cedi / korver / ante/ draft picks )—-that ain’t going to happen—so for his sake TRADE LOVE release him from this hell hole ——and yes flatliner ky demanded a trade –but it is going to hurt like hell watching him display his talents / carve out a HOF career as a celt —and have the cavs show ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ( but despise for ainge ) to show for it ——maybe LeBron did chase away ky –who knows ?

JOHN B
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JOHN B
11 months 29 days ago

No cut Crowder and IT. Good riddance to the Boston trash.

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Raffy22
11 months 29 days ago

I’ve tried to stay composed about this for years, but I can’t take it any more. Lue sucks. He sucks balls. He sucked balls last year when he couldn’t implement anything that remotely resembled a fluid offense and couldn’t find a way to make the team function without Lebron. Last year’s team was an all timer and he pissed away the regular season and couldn’t come up with anything remotely innovative to counter the Warriors in last years finals. And he continues to suck balls this year with his continued failure to set up coherent lineups and rotations. He sucks. He f**king sucks! Ok, I’m done now.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
11 months 29 days ago

Love should lock IT into his locker at halftime, and maybe Lue can win a game, as he’s forced to use Calderone.

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JB225
11 months 29 days ago

?????

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JOHN B
11 months 29 days ago

Just listened to the podcast at work. I have always been skeptical about Lue, but I totally forgot about those horrible lineups in the finals. They kind of won in spite of a lot of his decisions, which kind of makes LBJ even more amazing. I have given Lue a lot of leeway and he does one thing very well, which is drawing up plays after timeouts. However, he really is not a good coach.

His minutes and rotations have always been bonkers. His motivational skills and control of the team are basically nonexistent at this point. He literally makes adjustments that go away from what works. His defenses are awful schemes for this team. Finally, he hasn’t installed any coherent offensive system in 2 years. I am not a fan of firing a coach mid season in a contending year, but if his lineup changes he promised are nonsensical, well….switching coaches worked once for the cavs.

JMay
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11 months 29 days ago

Ordinarily I wouldn’t support a firing mid-season. Just like I didn’t want Blatt fired. But Lue is abysmal. Absolutely horrible decisions. He does things that have zero excuse. I still will never forget him not even TRYING, not attempting for a single minute, the Wildcat lineup over the course of a five game series…

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11 months 29 days ago

I have been ‘meh’ on him as a coach, not great, not awful, but sure looks like he’s lost this team. According to all the Lue Truthers back in the day, that’s why Blatt needed fired.

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11 months 29 days ago

Yeah, I was thinking earlier this year that some of his lineups were from pressure by the FO or LBJ, but you are right. His decision making has been bonkers for his whole tenure. I think the championship made me forget a lot of the stuff talked about in the podcast.

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11 months 29 days ago

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11 months 29 days ago

For Arch :

JOHN B
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JOHN B
11 months 29 days ago

Hahahhaha!!!!! That made my morning.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
11 months 29 days ago

Nice!!!!! ???

Bobby Nachos
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Bobby Nachos
11 months 29 days ago

HAHAHAHA~!!!!

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11 months 29 days ago

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
11 months 29 days ago

Great rant on Lue by Tom.

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Leo
11 months 29 days ago

While I have presented alternative lineups on some threads, and also some radical trades, I think the main item is the energy and effort with this team. Honestly, Lue’s changes shouldn’t be that hard; so I will give him free advice (if he reads this blog anyways. ps he should!)
– Park JR and TT on end of bench and make them DNPs if necessary
– Start Calderon Korver and Frye ….have starting unit run fast paced offense with crisp passing and cuts and some spread the floor for Lebron drives
– Bench unit includes IT, Wade, Cedi, Green, with DRose and Crowder coming in for spot minutes…again this unit runs and gives incredible energy while out there 5-6 minutes at a time.
– Continue to rotate lineups until 4th quarter and then put Bron, Wade, Korver, Green, Love and let it fly.

Just one game, Cavs give incredible energy and effort for 48 minutes. No one has to play more than 30 minutes. Even these old cats can handle it.

JMay
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11 months 29 days ago

Unfortunately, I think it ends up being what they discuss on the pod. Move Crowder to the bench and TT back in…

JOHN B
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JOHN B
11 months 29 days ago

I think Lue is on his way out if that is the case. Can’t see that turning this team around.

JMay
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11 months 29 days ago

It won’t do a thing. In fact, I bet the lineup is just as bad. It will be so cramped because four of the five players can’t hit a three.

JMay
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11 months 29 days ago

Right there with ya, Leo.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
11 months 29 days ago

Loved the “Summer of Corby” shout out!

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
11 months 29 days ago

Loved the line “Trump-hand Thompson.” ?

Nate Smith
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11 months 29 days ago

From John B on yesterday’s LT: “That was the best catch I have ever seen TT make with his Trump hands. Too bad it only led to a foul”

MikeO
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MikeO
11 months 29 days ago

I’m with Tom — Lue is who I thought he was. I think he’s going to go, because the Cavs look like a trainwreck now.

Anonymous
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Anonymous
11 months 29 days ago

I hope K-Love gets traded for his sake. Get him out of this sh*thole situation.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
11 months 29 days ago

It sounds like the deal of Frye and Shump for Hill won’t cost the Cavs a first round pick. So that’s good news. Maybe they can use it to grab a big.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
11 months 29 days ago

And so he stays. Monday’s blowout meeting is well-documented by now. It started with Love as the target before escalating into something more. Dwyane Wade and Isaiah Thomas were the instigators, multiple sources with knowledge of the meeting told The Athletic. From there, it escalated to everyone else and an airing of the grievances. (Lloyd)

MikeO
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MikeO
11 months 29 days ago

Wade, whatever. Where the hell does IT get off, though? You’ve barely played for this team, and you suck, dude.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
11 months 29 days ago

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
11 months 29 days ago

LOL!!!!

TV63
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TV63
11 months 29 days ago

Fat Elvis LOL Cav fans need comic relief!!

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
11 months 29 days ago

Bobby Nachos
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Bobby Nachos
11 months 29 days ago

“One thing seems to be certain — starter J.R. Smith sure won’t produce much (he finished with zero points on 0-of-4 shooting Tuesday), but will likely play about 30 minutes, anyway.”

From Amico Hoops – so true!

Results don’t change for Cavs, but finally, lineup will

JRL
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JRL
11 months 29 days ago

Van Gundy hasn’t played Marjanovic the last two games and as far as I can tell it’s just because – no injury report. What can we offer to get that guy here? I think him playing on the second unit with Wade and KK will help tremendously. Besides the firing Lue, trading Shump, JR, TT and IT of course.

Cjef
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Cjef
11 months 29 days ago

Boban is actually ridiculously efficient on offense as you would expect with his height and soft touch. He is fun. It’s just his perimeter defence that is the problem.

MikeO
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MikeO
11 months 29 days ago

The race is really heating up. pic.twitter.com/RRte8FrjoO

— Zach Lowe (@ZachLowe_NBA) January 24, 2018

Bobby Nachos
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Bobby Nachos
11 months 29 days ago

I was just about to post this…. pretty sad.

\"newnomad
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\"newnomad
11 months 29 days ago

where is ted stepien when you need him —-I am sure he would get us out of this mess —-we are headed back to the caDAValiers days

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
11 months 29 days ago

Simmo
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Simmo
11 months 29 days ago

Actually makes a lot of sense.

Simmo
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Simmo
11 months 30 days ago

Nate I think the movie was “Sliver”. Godawful flick.

Nate Smith
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11 months 29 days ago

Lol. Thanks.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
11 months 30 days ago

LA Cavs Fan
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LA Cavs Fan
11 months 29 days ago

Any way to read this for free anywhere?’

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton
11 months 29 days ago

I think you can get a week free. Otherwise it’s $3.33 a month, which isn’t bad. I cancelled my ESPN Insider account, and went with this instead. Also, it’s not so ridiculous like ESPN Cleveland charging $8.50 a month to listen to Jobee’s commercials, and Rizzo playing blackjack with Hammer, while he threatens to mow people down with his car at an 0-16 parade.

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