
First off: I rarely do this, but here’s a Cavs-Celtics piece concerning how Rondo did his damage in game four. Basically, the Cavs are going to have to limit transition opportunities if they want to stop Rondo, and game four was a perfect storm of transition opportunities.
Anyways, onto anxiety and potential misery. I want to get all of this out of the way while the series is still tied (for the record, I do still the the Cavs will probably win this series), so I’m a step ahead of the fire and brimstone if they do lose. The Cavaliers are two losses, only one of which has to be at home, from losing this series. The series has been more or less dead-even so far — both teams have won semi-tough games at home and blown their opponent out on the road. Sometimes LeBron has looked unstoppable; other times, Rondo has controlled the game. There is a very, very, very real possibility that the Cavaliers are not going to win this series. Here is what I believe will happen if they do. Keep in mind that I am not saying any of these things are right or wrong. It’s just what I believe will happen.
-There is a high likelihood that LeBron James will leave. Not only has the team had trouble winning any game that LeBron did not dominate, but there doesn’t appear to be much of a core in place at the current moment. Shaq and Antawn Jamison aren’t getting any younger. Mo Williams, Delonte West, Anderson Varejao, and J.J. Hickson are the supposed under-30 “core,” and they certainly haven’t been setting the world on fire. LeBron will take a long, hard look at a team that can potentially provide him with a true running mate or running mates, as well as a fresh start. As always, I have no idea if LeBron’s already made up his mind one way or another. But you have to imagine losing this series will influence his decision.
-LeBron will get the reputation as the next Karl Malone/Dan Marino/Charles Barkley, whatever of sports. The dissenting opinion on LeBron will officially become the conventional wisdom on LeBron. Maybe it will be even worse, because only Marino had a chance to be considered an all-time great the way LeBron does. He will not shake this label until he does win a championship.
The list of MVPs to have never won a championship is very short. The list of two-time MVPs to have never won a championship is even shorter. LeBron does not want to be on that list. He is now in his prime. His team has had the best record in basketball for two consecutive years. Fair or unfair, it will be on him if the Cavs do not pull this off. You will see the op-ed headline “no more excuses for LeBron,” likely more than once.
-Mike Brown’s future will be up in the air. If LeBron leaves, he might as well stay, because teams without superstars win with defense. Also, they’re not going to find a big-name coach willing to take the Cavs job if they don’t have LeBron. If he does stay, they may make a desperate shake-up with the coaching staff — public pressure will be too overwhelming. I think Mike Brown has done a great job during his time in Cleveland. But players win games and coaches lose them, and the Cavs are losing some games they shouldn’t be right now.
-The front office will desperately search for an upgrade at the two-guard position. Anthony Parker and Delonte West have not been getting the job done, and the team clearly could use more backcourt production. Ray Allen’s name will be tossed around. He will ultimately likely sign with a team other than Cleveland.
-The team’s focus will be called into question. LeBron’s leadership will bear the brunt of that criticism. Before the playoffs, the team insisted it was much more focused than it was in previous seasons. So far, that claim appears to have been a crock of s**t. The Cavaliers have the talent to win it all and they are failing to get it done. Nothing pisses of fans and journalists more than this. They will swarm on this team like piranha going after a fallen horse. To some degree, they will be right to do so.
-Mo Williams’ ultimate value to a contending team will be called into question. Since the Cavs owe Williams 8.5 million dollars in the 2012/13 season and a rebuilding team won’t want him, they will not have any way to address those concerns.
-Z won’t get a ring.
That’s what I can come up with off the top of my head. I’m sure there’s more. So yeah, I’ve been a little stressed. If the Cavs go down to Orlando, fine. That’s a great team. If the Cavs put up a good fight, that’s a team I’m proud to be a fan of. Same thing goes for whatever team comes out of the West. But this series? Losing this series would be a killer. It would be a letdown of the highest order. I don’t want that to happen. Let’s all hope the Cavs come out kicking ass and taking names on Tuesday.
Right on krolic!
Totally agree it would be a shame to lose to the C’s although there a good team.
Turning point for LBJ in his carreer he needs to get it done..
I disagree on one count. If the Cavs lose this series in a close game 7 and the Celtics go on to win the championship like in ’08, then this is a lot less of a disappointment. I already have a wry smile on my face when I think about Fisher trying to guard Rondo.
Appropriate picture. Also agree with everything you’ve said.
John, as much as I agree with you, this was horribly depressing.
Yep, that’s pretty much it. This is the biggest postseason of LeBron’s career. If he does leave to say, New York, or wherever, it’s going to be another few years before he even has a chance at a title. It’s not like his team will be able to compete immediately, the other pieces have to be put in place. Even if he lands somewhere with Bosh, you’re looking at his 9th or 10th year that he can for the ring again…doesn’t look good for his legacy.
Plus PR-wise, he can’t complain about how his supporting cast wasn’t good enough, because everyone will think it was. Danny Ferry has really done everything he can to upgrade the team every year to the point that it’s hard for them to get rhythm and chemistry with constantly moving pieces.
If they don’t win the championship, Shaq won’t be back, obviously. Z will be gone or either retire, so they’ve got a big hole that uh…there’s some guy in Europe who’s tall?
It’s championship or bust. Anything less than that trophy is a disaster. Losing to the Magic again is awful, they are supposed to be better.
It’s pretty crazy that we are thinking this way after two losses in the semifinals round, but that’s Cleveland sports. I’ve had the same thought process as Krolik here mere minutes after Game 4.
Will the real LeBron James please stand up? Doesn’t he have any more Game 3′s in him? That was a statement game… That was a blowout… That was a game that left me on a high, and left me satisfied when I slept that day…
Please LeBron, give us more Game 3′s… Win the championship, and I won’t feel so bad if you left Cle thereafter…
Anyone with me on this?
Nathan, come on now. The Cavs have been the best team in the regular season 2 years in a row. They have the best player on the planet. They need 1 other person to show up to help him. JUST ONE. Three years running they’ve needed that one person. If they lose this series, its a colossal disappointment and I’m positive it means the end of the LBJ era.
Last night Gasol went 33/14. Howard took 32 shots the entire Atlanta series and was a no-show in the Charlotte series and they still dominated. Nash has Stoudemire or vice versa. Can you imagine how the DET/ATL series would have gone last year if Lebron exerted the same amount of energy that Dwight/Kobe have had to so far this year. No, the King has to do it all by himself cuz on the chance he has an offnight due to opponents focusing 100% of their gameplans on him and him alone, not one other person on the team will show up. Then we got Cavs fans on this and other sites criticizing Lebron for not being able to do it all. I understand haters from other teams but from your own fans?? A lot of this falls on coaching too for not putting other players in position to succeed or knowing what a rotation is. But try as he might and boy does he try, Lebron just can’t do it by himself night after night after night for 16+ grueling playoff games in a row.
If we had that one other person, LBJ would be going for this 3rd straight crown right now. I’m sure glad we declined the Stoudemire trade to hold onto up and coming JJ Hickson. And to think about it a little more, maybe Boozer would’ve been that 2nd person if the FO hadn’t botched that up back in the day. Only in Cleveland. But hey Nathan, if a Fisher/Rondo matchup for you next series is enough to satisfy you and take away the sting from another Cavs chokejob in the postseason, more power to you.
LeBron/supporting cast is chicken/egg. The team is built UPON him, not around him, so if he’s not there (i.e. not exerting himself, being “passive”, deferring too much, etc.) then the team doesn’t stand as tall. While their bad games are not ALL HIS FAULT, he is the admitted leader and if his effort is not there the rest of the team seems lost. While that’s on their heads, you kind of chose them because they had that quality, i.e. willing to follow LeBron. “Getting floor burns” is cliche, I know, but during most of these playoffs have you seen that kind of hustle or any at all? When I’m on my couch dropping countless f-bombs at another Rondo offensive rebound a little voice inside of me says, “If they don’t care, why do you?” Aren’t they acting like 4-time champions rather than Eastern conference finalists? And if so, why?
Basketball is not golf. You can try harder and expect better outcomes. If the shots aren’t falling and the gollum is running amock, sprinting to get back on defense will improve your team’s result. A prevented basket is equal to a made one.
Well then I guess there’s only one thing left to do.
Win the whole f’in thing.
A question for you Cavs fans – of all the players on both teams, who are the best players after Lebron? I think most people would say something along the lines of Rondo, Pierce, Garnett and Allen would be numbers 2 – 5; well Rondo #2 and the others as 3-5. Obviously, Lebron is far-and-away the best player but I think most folks would agree that the Celtics have the next best four players in this series. I think a similar (though not as strong)argument could be made to Orlando – after Lebron, you have D. Howard, Rashard Lewis, VC and Nelson.
I think it just goes to show how much the Cavs are Lebron and a bunch of role players. It works great in the regular season because he goes so hard for all games but the playoffs just put so much pressure on him. Lebron needs to play great every game for the Cavs to win – a poor job of team building in my opinion.
Disagree. I’d take Jamison over Pierce and Allen. Anyway John? Did you really need to write this article? The day’s rainy enough.
Im still keeping the faith because this Cavs team is still capable of winning the next two games and they might win tonite by double digits…not like Gam 3 but more around 10-12 points…I think Lebron on Rondo to start the game will be a big deal and affect the game big time for both teams. I think Parker is good enough to handle Pierce as the latter hasnt done shit this series.
If the Cavs get by the Celtics I think theyll have a completely different mindset against Orlando. This was the team that knocked them out in their dream season a year ago. The Orlando mindset is way different than the Celtic mindset. Yah the Cavs wanted revenge from the C’s two years ago, but that was a series the Cavs werent expected to win, Orlando was. Completely different.
Orlando hasnt had any adversity so far, much like the Cavs from last year. Atlanta is horrible. Most overrated playoff team I think in history.
Until the Cavs officially lose and are done, I’ll start thinking about these things. But right now they are still in it to win it!
Jimmy, wipe the fairy dust out of your eyes. It’s quite clear that LeBron has either not been playing well or not giving his full effort in 3 games so far this series, 2 of them being losses. He’s not untouchable.
Cavs fans above anyone have ground to criticize him this playoff series and lay some of the blame for these losses on him. We blame Mr. Toyoda when old people confuse the gas for the brake pedal, LeBron needs to take some blame if the Cavs play like they’ve confused the Boston Celtics for the New York Knicks. He’s the leader and the number 1 player. He sets the tone for this team. As roger said, they’re built upon him.
Look at the box score for last game again. All of the starters scored in double digits. Sure, the bench didn’t show up, but they were on the road. Guess who’s line this was: 7-18 FGs, 9 Rebounds, 22 points. No, it wasn’t Antawn Jamison’s, it was LeBron’s. And before you point to his 8 assists, note that he also had 7 turnovers. That’s a completely mediocre performance for a guy like LeBron.
Just to add to everyone’s depression, note that if the Cavs lose this series, tonight could be LeBron’s last home game as a Cav. Wallow in that one….
To add on to Roger’s point, here are a few crude stat lines courtesy of databasebasketball.com (just pts/rebs/ast per game, not PER or other metrics) from other superstars’ championship seasons, courtesy of databse: Jordan ’91 (31.1/6.4/8.4); Jordan ’92 (34.5/6.2/5.8); Jordan ’93 (35.1/6.7/6.0) (I think Jordan’s 1st 3 title seasons are most comparable considering his age); D Wade ’06 (28.4/5.9/5.7); Kobe ’09 (30.2/5.3/5.5).
Lebron’s 9-game averages thus far: 30.9/8.6/7.4. Lebron’s numbers are spectacular, but not hugely better than what Jordan, DWade, or Kobe produced in their title seasons, and arguably inferior to Jordan’s best post-seasons. And in all of these seasons except Jordan ’91, the superstar had a higher post-season than regular season scoring average.
The point is, for a player of Lebron’s abilities and experience, it’s his “job” to be great, virtually every game, for 16 wins. Other great players have done it, even if their supporting casts arguably were better than Lebron’s (though not in Wade’s case). And in the two games the Cavs lost in this series, Lebron clearly has not been doing his job, for the reasons other posters have already talked about.
Maybe LeBron is a choke artist. Why is that question never posed?
“Well then I guess there’s only one thing left to do.
Win the whole f’in thing.”
YES! Major League FTW!!!
John’s post is completely correct. I also believe that this realization is one of the main problems hampering the Cavs in this playoff run. They are playing tight, as if the weight of the world is on their shoulders. And it is. I’ve never before seen a team that HAD to win the championship in one specific season. That’s what we’re watching. It’s hard to win a title – even harder to win under these circumstances.
This realization is why fans are analyzing nonsense such as the few minutes of playing time that may or may not be available for our 10th and 11th men!
Great point above on Gasol and the Lakers. He’s so consistently effective (to the point of devastating good players like Boozer) that Kobe is only dominating in spurts. Big difference btw that and what many are asking Lebron to do. The problem with the Cavs supporting cast is that it only “supports.” These guys rarely can take over for just a few minutes to lessen the burden on Lebron. In Game 1 Mo did that for 5 min or so. That was enough to win. In Game 3, Jamison was really effective, as were Shaq and Delonte. If we get that from somebody tonight and one more time, the Cavs will defeat Boston. If not, the scenarios listed by John will most certainly come true (most of them, at least.) Pretty simple.
Lebron had a below-average game 4 and it was a near triple-double. I don’t think it was lack of effort. As several people have pointed out, 2 or more of the 7 turnovers were in no way on him. The Celtics defense at the end of the game was designed to keep him from getting to the rim. Perhaps he could have anyway, perhaps not. But I see it as a bad decision, not a sign that he doesn’t care or isn’t playing hard. What is the evidence — other than the fact we lost — that Lebron was not giving full effort in Game 4 (Game 2 maybe a different story)? I guarantee if had we won the game–which we very easily could have if guys other than Lebron hit a couple more shots–everyone would be talking about how great it is that we don’t need Lebron to score 40 to win.
Boston is a good team and we aren’t going to beat them shooting 40% with 4 threes. If guys hit open shots they will be fine. If not, Rondo will be out running all over the place again and we probably lose.
Celtics fan here. I want to pose this question to you Cavs fans. Do you really think you can win the whole thing by: struggling with the #4 Celtics, then having to beat the Magic, THEN try beat the Lakers?? You guys are nuts if you think this poorly constructed Cavs team can do that. Orlando and LA are more balanced then my Celtics, not to mention younger and fresher. Unless you guys win the chip, I see Lebron leaving.
I am gettin anxious for this game to get started. All the speculation all the talk about potential outcomes and subsequent scenarios. Ohio State is probably the only other team I get this way about before a game. But I can’t say I’ve been this anxious in awhile. I’m tired of all the preliminary stuff. Game 5 is a MUST win. If Cavs lose this series, LBJ is as good as gone. But gettin a win tonight would at least bring them a step closer to Orlando. I like LeBron taking Rondo, but I think it may require a lineup similar to that when Mo was injured. Unless Mo guards Allen and Parker guards Pierce, there’s a risk that Pierce will break out of his funk. I think Cavs will win the series, but it’d be easier to go into game 6 bein up 3-2 instead of 2-3,
I’m not ready to start thinking in any of these terms. My thoughts are more like: if there’s a parade in downtown Cleveland, what route would it take?
But if we are destined to lose in the Conf Semis, I prefer to be completely in shock AFTER losing, than spending/wasting time being “shock prepared” BEFORE that.
Josh: That’s not a question, that’s a statement of your opinion. But I disagree- the Cavaliers will definitely go all the way this year.
In order to do that, we need to close out this series against Boston first~ let’s make it painful for them.
@squiggles – that’s a very interesting question, which will be posed more often if he fails to meet expectations this time around. That’s if the elbow doesn’t come up again…lol…
But seriously, I do wonder if LeBron is afraid that his best will not be enough… in my struggles to understand the tentativeness in his game, this is the only explanation I’ve come up with so far…
@Josh, do I think the Cavs can win it all this year? Yes. Do I think they can win it all based on their current game form? No.
I’ll be at game 5 tonight boys. Section 211. Who is going to be there with me??
Oh, and Jim, others have pointed it out but I have to disagree. If we are talking this series right now as it has played it out, the best player on the court hasn’t been LeBron, it has been Rajon Rondo. So that is the first problem, LeBron not playing up to his potential. After that, there is no way you can tell me Pierce has been better than Jamison, and I personally think it’s a toss up between Allen and Jamison this series. So, for me, it has went something like : 1. Rondo 2. LeBron 3. Garnett. 4. Allen/Jamison.
When LeBron starts playing hard every single night and the cavs still lose, then I’ll blame the other guys. Until that happens, I think I’ll just blame LeBron since he is the leader of the team.
Sure, keep on blaming him. Its cool. As long as nobody else continues to show up, you have at most 3 games left to put the blame squarely on his shoulders. Enjoy life after LBJ, Cleveland fans.
The Celtics had Tony Freaking Allen be better in game 4 than any other Cav has been in any single game this series. But yah, keep blaming Lebron.
@ Josh – So the Lakers went 7 against the #5 Rockets last year. How did that work out for them?
Sorry, I’m not going to live in fear of a player leaving so much so that he becomes immune to any and all criticism. I will thoroughly enjoy life after LBJ because my life doesn’t hinge on a basketball team being good or bad. Do I want to see the Cavs win? Of course. Will I cry myself to sleep at night if LeBron leaves? No. Stop being so afraid of an athlete who plays a sport.
And no, Tony Allen’s 15 point game is not better than any other Cav has been in any single game this series.
Again, find ways to excuse LeBron but the FACT is he has been the 2nd best player in this series. Is that Mo Williams fault? Or maybe it is Jamisons? How about SHaqs? Nope. It is LeBrons fault that he has been 2nd best and no1 elses but his fault.
Pierce has been awful this series, no doubt, but my point was that the Celtics have four of the five best players on the two teams…not necessarily those who are playing best in the series. As for Jamison, I think it’s pretty apparent that he is a limited player. He can score, though not so much vs. Garnett. He rebounds some but does he really grab the tough rebound in traffic? He doesn’t really pass and he is a horrendous defender. He has put up good stats on lousy teams, has never been a winner…I agree with a previous poster – the Cavs needed to make a big splash then Stoudemire would have been the answer. The Cavs would be unbeatable. If Ferry truly balked because he didn’t want to include Hickson then he is incompetent.
Why in god’s name does my buddy’s wedding have to be tonight?!?! This game is too huge to miss… I sure hope the King feels that way too…
Because we’ve come to expect 30-9-9 out of Lebron every night, anytime he doesn’t deliver that, he’s a failure?? And anytime he doesn’t deliver that and the Cavs lose, he’s a colossal failure just going thru the motions?? I got ya. Remember that next year when the Cavs win less than 40% of their games and he’s on another team where he doesn’t have to be on his game for 9 straight months.
All they need is one guy, just one guy who is consistent and can shoot w/o being paralyzed with fear, w/o us fans hoping that jumper goes in. Maybe its up to Roker to find that guy and use him properly. I don’t want him to go but I don’t blame Lebron if no championship again this year, if he left this mess. He can join a team with a good nucleus and get 50+ wins. He leaves this team and they won’t win 35. This team is getting old, is over the cap, has no draft picks, has very limited options to improve and if this is the best it can be and still can’t get it done, what point is there in staying.
People argue if he goes, he’ll be starting over. My counter is if he stays, he’s starting over. Mo won’t suddenly turn into a premier playoff pg, Delonte has mental/legal issues. Jamison/Parker are signed thru next year and are nothing special. JJ can’t play D and can’t play w/o Lebron feeding him the ball. Shaq/Z are done, at least in this offense. Andy is a one trick regular season pony. For all you Telfair guys, woohoo!!! There’s something we can hang our hats on. Jawario? Please. Don’t tell me this roster won’t be turned over whether LBJ stays or not. Starting all over here or another team. If I were LBJ, another team, a new beginning sounds real appealing. Rebuilding the Cavs roster will take longer than joining the Nets or Bulls or Heat.
Well then I guess there’s only one thing left to do.
Win the whole f’in thing.”
I hope the don’t have a cut-out of Dan Gilbert wearing a strippers outfit in the locker-room! =O
Ah Rich, bringing the real life card into it. Well played sir, well played… “I will thoroughly enjoy life after LBJ because my life doesn’t hinge on a basketball team being good or bad.”
You, of all people, are the most conistent poster here. You post constantly during games and then the post game threads. You, of all people, are constantly criticizing everything about the Cavs in this series. You are not being positive in the least. I’d say if you have a job, that outside of your work responsibilities, and outside of sleep, this is your 3rd most frequent place to be in the course of a day. And yet you bring out the real life card trying to imply that the rest of us, maybe me specifically, won’t be able to bear our own lives should LBJ leave. I would try and refute you but I think the evidence rests on the past 20-25 threads on this blog.
“Stop being so afraid of an athlete who plays a sport.” Huh? Well played again….I think.
Forget the curveball Ricky…Give ‘em the heater!
I can post and be excited about a team without having it tear my life apart if that team wins or loses. Will I be upset? Of course. But will I go about my next day the same I would have as if they had won? Yes. You are the one who made the real life comment first by saying “enjoy LIFE after LBJ cavaliers fans.” I was simply stating that I will still enjoy life w/ or w/o LBJ because what he does or doesn’t do doesn’t define what I do or don’t do. Never did I say you wouldn’t be able to live on if Lebron leaves, I simply stated that I would. Pretty easy to comprehend really.
And this whole notion that he shouldn’t have to be on his A game every night is great. But then you should also expect the lesser players to not have to be on their A game every night either. It is the playoffs. It is time when stars play like stars. I was right there with you last year against Orlando when LBJ was playing lights out and the Cavs were still losing. He didn’t have enough help. This year…well, we’ve seen what happens when he plays lights out like game 3, the cavs roll. It isn’t like he is playing out of his mind and the cavs are barely getting by this year. No, when he does the entire team goes with him. I do NOT think it is to much to ask of him for him to play good games. Game 4 was a bad game people. Your stars can’t have bad games on the road in the playoffs and expect to win.
Anyway, time to start the long drive to Cleveland.
And look at a few posts above. Jordan DID it all for his first three titles. Why is it we expect LeBron to not do it all, if we want to call him the next MJ?
The reason Rondo is the #1 player in this series is that he is having an INSANE series, in large part because Lebron’s teammates can’t cover him and because they keep missing shots, not rebounding, and putting him in the open floor. Honestly, given what Rondo is doing, I’m not sure what kind of game 4 performance it would have taken to make Lebron the #1 player in the series. The rest of the Cavs play better and Lebron is probably the #1 player in this series.
I don’t think people are against criticizing Lebron because they are “afraid” of him. Like he reads this blog or cares. I just don’t think it is fair to say Lebron isn’t trying.
Of course I read this blog.
Whether you think he’s trying or not, whether you think he’s playing well or not, the point is this:
If LeBron wants to be considered one of the greats, he has to find a way. If it means he has to go out and score 40 to get the win, he has to do it. If it means he has to be a facilitator for a teammate with a hot hand, he has to do it. Hell, if it means he has to take the other team’s best player, he has to do it.
Best 2 out of 3. If LeBron is who we want him to be, then he figures out a way to get these next two wins.
Anyone want to buy some DVDs?
Zydrunus Willfuckus
Rag on the supporting cast all you want. But if we bottle up what we did to the Celtics in game 3… nobody beats us. We played the game loose and easy and we gave the Celtics the worst playoff beat down in their franchise history. We just need to find some consistency. Its lack of consistency that has everybody all shook up. You’ll be able to tell from the opening tip tonight which Lebron has decided to show up. Just look at the eyes.
…please don’t leave me to shoot crucial jumpers this game, guys!
Where does this attitude come from? I was born in Ohio and moved to Central Florida when I was little. I moved back to Ohio to go to Ohio State and I notice a huge difference in the confidence of some of these people. Where is the swagger? Where is the pride in this state?
The Lakers were in this same position in the first round. Did their fans go through this garbage? No. They have attitude, resiliency. They EXPECT to win. They don’t consider what will happen if they don’t.
I’m sick and tired of hearing my fellow Ohio people Catastrophize every single event. You talk so much about the worst case scenarios that you don’t even stop and think about the best case. This roller coaster of emotions after each game has to stop.
I have friends that are Magic fans and that are Gator fans. I hate the gators more than any team in any sport. But you know what? They win. Their fans expect them to win. Their players expect them to win. When did Ohio get away from that?
I expect the Cavs to win the championship. They’re 6-3 in the playoffs. If they don’t win it, I’ll deal with it. But I will not take a turn down negative street in a series that WE’VE NEVER TRAILED IN.
Maybe Ohio people need to learn how to not quit so easily. The Cavs will win the championship. I’ll truly believe that and will tell any one of my Magic fan friends the same.
Because I would rather eat my words than eat my pride. And giving up, or even talking about it, would mean surrendering my pride.
Hey long time reader first time poster. So I have…a friend…who is an NBA player and his coach insists that he guard a dude who is at least 5 times as quick and 3 times as fast…and he’s having the series of his life.
Any advice guys?
I just dropped my computer.
@Anthony- maybe you and I play some real D and quit missing dey open looks-we be a’ight. We’s gots ta gets nashty.