This news headlined very briefly on Friday during the Clippers game. It’s Sunday, there was no game last night…may as well give Dion’s February a day in the spotlight.
His per-36 minute numbers were 20 points, 4 assists and 1.4 steals, on 57% true shooting.
So, with three-fourths of his rookie season behind him, if I set the over / under on All-Star appearances at 1.5…which direction are you going?
Also, today’s practice will determine whether Kyrie suits-up against the Knicks tomorrow.
I’m going to choose “over 1.5 All-Star games” for Kyrie; I feel like being daring.
Love St. Dub’s game and I’ll go over with two All-Star games for his career. Kyrie is going to be a staple every February. I’ll go out on a limb and wing it that Waiters will gets in one year because Kyrie is hurt and Waiters is named as his alternate.
Also Terry Pluto wrote about Dion Waiters in his Sunday column.
I would say over, but I don’t know if the coaches will be comfortable voting in the starting 1-3 spots for the Cavs, once I’m drafted.
Nice, Otto. Very nice.
@otto Watched two Otto games and two Shabazz games yesterday, officially think you fit slightly better, was more of a fan of Bazz previously, Muhummad is more of a creater, and Otto is slightly better in most other parts of the game, ball movement, help defense
Porter I think will be more valuable because of his height/length (on defense) and intelligence, both are absolute knock down shooters from three tho
would be happy with either, Porter fits better next to Kyrie/Dion
i think shabazz is less of a risk more upside porter reminds of battier
Battier is a vital piece of that heat team. Gotta have the D/3pt guy … which Gee is trying to be, but really isnt.
i agree the point is usually guys like battier more on teams that are already good they help get them over the hump they have less value on average and bad teams
I’d go over and it really isn’t hard to do that. Look at the Shooting Guards in the Eastern Conference.
Dwyane Wade, JJ Redick, Louis Williams, Ray Allen, Ben Gordon, CJ Miles and Joe Johnson are the only guys with a better PER.
Ray Allen will be out of the league soon and Dwyane Wade (while more efficient) looks slower than in years past. In 3 years, he will likely be a shell of his former self. JJ Redick may have already hit his ceiling. Joe Johnson is overrated, but will get some All-Star love.
So 3 years from now, there’s a Wade on his downside. Bradley Beal. Joe Johnson (likely on the downside of his career.)
It would be difficult for Dion to not get at least 2 All-Star Bids.
thats a pretty rusty group
Great to see Dion get rewarded for his ever-improving play. Clips game aside, he’s been more than up to the challenge of stepping in and running the offense in place of KI. Here’s a question… If Dion continues at his current rate of growth, is he a max deal player ultimately? I think just about everyone would agree that (barring injury) Kyrie is a max player. If they both are, what about TT? Questions for the future for sure, but just thinking ahead.
Bazz on this team at the 3 gives us the smallest lineup of all time. Kyrie rather slim if not short, Dion at 6’3 and Bazz at a skinny 6’5 is a recipe for disaster. Could you imagine that line up guarding Wade and Lebron, or George and Granger, or Melo, or Joe Johnson and Gerald Wallace. I’m all for Otto or Len.
I was just examining the teams in our division and realized that these teams all have great (or good in the bulls and raptors) bigs which bodes ill for the Cavs penetrators. Indy in Hibbert, and a lesser extent the aging West, Greg Monroe and Drummond, Larry Sanders according to the analytics is already the best defender in the NBA. Big V in Toranto, and Noah in Chicago.
Considering this my preferred offseason moves are Situation 1) Draft Otto who turns into a bigger and better shooting Battier. Then Sign All Jefferson to a 4 yr 52 million dollar contract. But I front load it so that it makes it possible to resign are youngsters. I like the fact that Jefferson can score effectively in the post and move well. When matching up with the Heat this would force them to play a center which is the key to diminishing the effectiveness of their drives. Bosh would not be able to guard him and he could guard Bosh. Also having a low post threat makes drives and cuts much more effective because he’s more of a threat.
Situation 2. Draft Alex Len and trade Andy OR a pick and a contract for Granger. He’s expensive and damaged goods making him available and cheap to trade for
when you start drafting to fit your roster on a team thats 20 games under you get in trouble if you think porter the best player fine but if not than its amistake you can draft shabazz and have those 3 as a guard rotation or an eventual trade piece
What you all think about Glenn Robinson III?
@Jimmy I disagree. When you draft strictly best player available you end up like the kings who have plenty of talent but no chemistry. U end having young players battle for pt shots and possesions. Evans, thomas ferdette all have talent and all play the point and all need the ball. Dmc needs the ball as well. Trob couldnt get off the bench. Sometimes u draft bpa like the KI yr. Last year the bpa was liliard but im sure were both glad we got waiters. Now if ben maclemore is there when we win the lotto sure i take him and move waiters to the bench or trade him and tt for klove but would i take a slightly better ball dominant tweener over a bigger slightly less talented sf. Nope. Give me the guy who fits even if he has less talent in that case i think chemistry trumps talent ala 2011 mavs or all the good pistons and spurs teams
Gr3 seems like he has the talent but lacks the hunger or confidence to be good in the nba
A superstar, two borderline all-stars, and a solid bench big. Zero busts. So far so good, CG.
I don’t want Shabazz, all the kid does is shoot. He’s good at it, but when we have Kyrie, and this version of Dion, we already have a pretty, in fact surprisingly, effective offense. I want a guy who can play D, Board, and space the floor for 3, not a guy who wants the ball as much as Kyrie and doesn’t seem to do anything without it.
Guy is skilled, don’t get me wrong, and I’d certainly take him if we could at the 10th pick, I just don’t think he’s better than Porter or some of the other guys.
The only time I saw GRIII was his crazy hot game against the bucks. But if he was really that kind of player he’d be the number one pick, so I can’t say.
@Rodney couldn’t agree more with the fact that drafting Shabazz gives us a very short, not overly athletic backcourt
first thing… Shabazz is not Skinny, high school youtube tapes… not skinny then, UCLA… isn’t skinny now, if anything hes overweight, hes really built just like Dion but two inches taller, or kinda like Carmelo Anthony just three inches shorter (come to think of it he kinda plays like Melo) i think a 3 inch shorter Carmelo is an ok comp.
second, u really like volume shooting, veteren, slow, no defense guys? Al Jefferson, Granger, Love, this team needs defense and all these guys are known turnstiles on D
third, I just dont like Len, when I think of him I think hes going to average 6 points and 3 rebounds in his NBA career and be one of those guys who gets drafted high because hes tall, Spencer Hawes, Meyers Leonard anyone?, 12, 8, 2 in a really weak ACC im not that excited about, we will have enough bigs next year… could be totally wrong havent seen him enough
There’s no player in this draft with more upside than Rudy Gobert.
gobert has more bust potential than jamarcus russel akili smith put together
Granger is a good defensive player. And Jefferson’s Defense is his offense. If you have to play a center when you don’t want to it hurts your offensive efficiency. Yes I just quoted a former Cav who was miserable at both
Your right about shabazz being thick though
whos the quote from lol?
I dont want Granger’s age + salary cap number, if he started playing D its news to me, he tried hard in the heat series last season but idk if he was overly effective
That’s a Sasha Pavlovic quote I believe.