He’s back! Finally! Let’s go Cavs! Well, here’s some fun Cavs-related stuff to read about as you go about your daily life.
- Kyrie Irving wasn’t the only star young’n to return last night, as Anthony Davis came back as well. I mostly posted this because I was thinking about something: would you trade Kyrie for Davis? In my opinion: too close to call. If it was a pure business decision, I think Grant would have to pull the trigger. (If you want to fight with me, and I hope you do, tweet me up @DanSoch)
- The best play of last night, in my opinion was– never mind, I’m just going to give you the link. Unreal.
-In case you wanted to get a little more emotionally invested in Byron Scott, here’s a cute story about his experience as a rookie on the Lakers, back in the day.
Tags: Anthony Davis, byron scott, Kyrie Irving
if I could assume both would miss the same number of games due to injury, I’d stick with Kyrie at this point.
But it’s close, right? By no means an obvious choice, especially with the overload of PG depth these days.
The only thing that keeps me from saying I’d do it – is that I think Kyrie Irving could potentially be the greatest scoring PG since Pistol Pete.
Tough question.
In general there are less great big men than great guards so that would say yep trade for Davis. However, Kyrie is such a great effecient scorer that he is definitely the better player.
It’s such a tough question. How about keep Kyrie because it’s more fun to watch a great guard than a great big man (as long as that big man isn’t named Shaq).
Yeah, I was thinking about that, Cols. Kyrie’s a helluva lot more fun to watch than Anthony Davis, that’s for sure.
I don’t know. If he ends up anything like Blake Griffin/DeAndre Jordan, Davis will be pretty fun to watch. And you totally stole the Pistol Pete thing from me, Tom.
As for the play of the night, I have to go with the steal/backhanded diving pass to Andy to Kyrie to Gee Alley Oop in the 2nd quarter. There were a LOT of good plays last night… At least 4 year end highlights.
PG is a much deeper position than C. I’d go with Davis because of that. Kyrie is amazing and I do think he’ll be a top five PG, but he’s easier to replace.. You might not get one as good as Kyrie, but you could find a decent PG fairly easy.
True – I did get that from you, Nate. Best description I’ve seen.
“could potentially be the greatest scoring PG since Pistol Pete” is selling him short. He could be the greatest pure scorer of all time, period. He had the highest scoring rate of any player 19 or younger last year (http://bkref.com/tiny/6RI4l), and in spite of a mediocre start to this season by his lofty standards, he ranks 2nd all time in scoring rate among players aged 20 or younger (behind only little-known Cliff Robinson) (http://bkref.com/tiny/I8quG).
To compare directly, Pistol Pete didn’t match Kyrie’s current scoring rate until his third season at age 25. To re-emphasize that point, Kyrie Irving (age 20) is averaging 23.7 points per 36 minutes. Pistol Pete Maravich, at age 25, one of the greatest pure scorers of all time, averaged 24.0 points per 36 minutes. Kobe Bryant didn’t break that mark until his 5th season at age 22.
I was hard pressed to find any guards who matched that rate by their sophomore year…MJ, The Big O, and West (1, 1, and 2 years older when they accomplished the feat, respectively) were the only noteables i found.
Tough call on Davis for Irving straight up, but I would stick with Irving. Point guards are more common, but I think Kyrie has as much raw talent as any point guard in the league. They both appear to be game changers and at this point you can’t really go wrong with either, but I’ll take other-worldly talent over other-worldly athleticism any day.
I would not trade kyrie for Davis.
Kyrie is one of the most complete guards in the NBA right now. Davis will be a damn good player but I don’t think he’ll ever be able to carry a team. They’re going to have to put scorers with Davis in NO for that team to succeed.
I would not trade Kyrie for Davis simply because he’s ours now. If you’re not rooting for people. you’re rooting for laundry. The linear nature of our existence matters.
Clevelandboy, you forgot that gaping whole on defense. Or by complete, did you mean completely offensive. Like he likes offense so much he wants to watch the other team score? Seriously though, I only caught the last few minutes of the game last night, I hope his effort really is on the uptick in that department. I wouldn’t trade Kyrie for Davis right now because Kyrie is more proven. Maybe after the season?? sure. I think Davis has a higher ceiling than Kyrie though, simply because I don’t think PG’s are as important as big men, and they both look like the have the tools to be the best in the nba at their positions.
Thats not entirely true though, Because I could really see davis becoming a Dwight Howard-ish defensive force with range, free throws, and maybe a slightly less developed post game (aka the best player ever), and Kyrie really can’t improve too much on the bigger chris paul/pistol pete comparison. But right now he much more of a sure thing, so I’d reluctantly stick with Kyrie.
http://hoopshype.com/dleague_callups.htm What about CDR? I’ve always loved his game/hated his off the court crap, but he still has upside, IMO.
What’s this “your comment is awaiting moderation” thing? Is it showing up to you guys? It’s 5 comments back now (12:53 PM)
Davis will be light years better than Blake/Deandre and he’s already a better defender/ball handler/passer/shooter now. Blake can dunk pretty. That’s about it. Griffin is marketable, but he’s not a superstar.
Well, I was really only thinking of this in a “what if for some reason we didnt love Kyrie Irving as a person and teammate anore but everyone else in the league did.” Obviously I wouldn’t trade him, just because he’s Kyrie.
Check out Nathan’s comment about halfway up. It’s very good, and was swallowed by the comment monster whom I Heimliched. Sorry Nathan (no relation).
I do agree with Nate’s comment that Kyrie is ours now. Love him as a player and he was much more engaged on defense last night than I’ve seen him. Kyrie may never be the distributor that Paul or Rondo are, but neither of them are as refined as a scorer as Kyrie. He really doesn’t have an offensive weakness. The primary credence I give to the return being possible, is that Irving will be a much better player than Wade in two years and you can actually make a debate about it already.
Ah, the 2 links did it.
I will be careful to not make my comments as appetizing in the future :)
Also, I just tuned in for the second half. I’m at a loss for words.
So far tonight Irving and Davis both looks like trash :P